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Classic Vinyl on Sirius/XM did a top 400, below is their top 10. These would be songs from the album era as opposed to cassette era. Predictable list. I like the two Skynyrd songs, but not in my top 10 but their inclusion doesn't surprise me.

10. While my Guitar Gently Weeps, Beatles
9. Sweet Home Alabama, Lynyrd Skynyrd
8. Wish You Were Here, Pink Floyd
7. Sympathy for the Devil, Rolling Stones
6. Layla, Derek/Dominos
5. Baba O'Riley, Who
4. Free Bird, Lynyrd Skynyrd
3. Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen
2. Hotel California, Eagles
1. Stairway to Heaven, Led Zeppelin
 
Classic Vinyl on Sirius/XM did a top 400, below is their top 10. These would be songs from the album era as opposed to cassette era. Predictable list. I like the two Skynyrd songs, but not in my top 10 but their inclusion doesn't surprise me.

10. While my Guitar Gently Weeps, Beatles
9. Sweet Home Alabama, Lynyrd Skynyrd
8. Wish You Were Here, Pink Floyd
7. Sympathy for the Devil, Rolling Stones
6. Layla, Derek/Dominos
5. Baba O'Riley, Who
4. Free Bird, Lynyrd Skynyrd
3. Bohemian Rhapsody, Queen
2. Hotel California, Eagles
1. Stairway to Heaven, Led Zeppelin
My rankings always depend on how I feel, why I feel how I feel, and time of day. Right now, thats as good a list as any. Tonight will be different! No way I could ever pick a No. 1 song.
 
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My rankings always depend on how I feel, why I feel how I feel, and time of day. Right now, thats as good a list as any. Tonight will be different! No way I could ever pick a No. 1 song.
That is frightening, I am the same way. It is why I never chose the "favorite song" for my password lockout. My favorite song really depends on my mood and what songs I have heard lately. Hotel California was one of the 25 I voted for on this contest, right now I would rather hear 7 Bridges Road. Same for Stairway and Kashmir. I really wonder what mood I was in to vote Stairway and not Kashmir as Stairway is usually further down my Led Zep "want to hear" list. Great song, but more top 5 Zeppelin than best.

Led Zeppelin had the most songs in the 400 followed by Beatles. I think they said Floyd and Eagles were tied next.

My movie and TV faves are also very fluid. We have had numerous "favorite war movie" threads in my 23 years here, I suspect my choice changes every time.
 
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That is frightening, I am the same way. It is why I never chose the "favorite song" for my password lockout. My favorite song really depends on my mood and what songs I have heard lately. Hotel California was one of the 25 I voted for on this contest, right now I would rather hear 7 Bridges Road. Same for Stairway and Kashmir. I really wonder what mood I was in to vote Stairway and not Kashmir as Stairway is usually further down my Led Zep "want to hear" list. Great song, but more top 5 Zeppelin than best.

Led Zeppelin had the most songs in the 400 followed by Beatles. I think they said Floyd and Eagles were tied next.

My movie and TV faves are also very fluid. We have had numerous "favorite war movie" threads in my 23 years here, I suspect my choice changes every time.
There was a Luhvuhl-based band that played out at what is now the Rodeway Inn in C-bus that did a killer version of Stairway. Little female lead singer who had a great voice for R&R. The guitar wash going from the lead-in to the guitar solo gets me every time on Stairway.

I like Over The Hills and Far Away for Zepplin stuff, and then Ramble On. They've got so much good stuff, it's hard to say one or the other.

BTW, Plant and Page agree with you re: Kashmir:

 
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There was a Luhvuhl-based band that played out at what is now the Rodeway Inn in C-bus that did a killer version of Stairway. Little female lead singer who had a great voice for R&R. The guitar wash going from the lead-in to the guitar solo gets me every time on Stairway.

I like Over The Hills and Far Away for Zepplin stuff, and then Ramble On. They've got so much good stuff, it's hard to say one or the other.

BTW, Plant and Page agree with you re: Kashmir:

The night before I got married, I was in a bar. I heard a band in the next room start to play White Rabbit. Went in. They followed with Somebody to Love. Their girl lead singer KILLED it. As good or better than Grace Slick. Always wish I had remembered their name. (I might have been drinking.)
 
There was a Luhvuhl-based band that played out at what is now the Rodeway Inn in C-bus that did a killer version of Stairway. Little female lead singer who had a great voice for R&R. The guitar wash going from the lead-in to the guitar solo gets me every time on Stairway.

I like Over The Hills and Far Away for Zepplin stuff, and then Ramble On. They've got so much good stuff, it's hard to say one or the other.

BTW, Plant and Page agree with you re: Kashmir:


I know Plant hates Stairway, but I have never seen the reason. It is a great song in my mind, but as you say, they have a lot of stuff that is great.

I have never heard a Zeppelin cover band, I assume they are out there. I should look.
 
I know Plant hates Stairway, but I have never seen the reason. It is a great song in my mind, but as you say, they have a lot of stuff that is great.

I have never heard a Zeppelin cover band, I assume they are out there. I should look.
There are. Some are very good. Or you can listen to Greta Van Fleet.

 
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I'm just a wandering on the face of this earth
Meeting so many people
Who are trying to be free
And while i'm traveling i hear so many words
Language barriers broken
Now we've found the key
And if you want the wind of change
To blow about you
And you're the only other person to know, don't tell me
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.
A thousand pictures can be drawn from one word
Only who is the artist
We got to agree
A thousand miles can lead so many ways
Just to know who is driving
What a help it would be
So if you want this world of yours
To turn about you
And you can see exactly what to do
Please tell me
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.
How can we understand
Riots by the people for the people
Who are only destroying themselves
And when you see a frightened
Person who is frightened by the
People who are scorching this earth.
I'm just a wandering on the face of this earth
Meeting so many people
Who are trying to be free
And while i'm traveling i hear so many words
Language barriers broken
Now we've found the key
And if you want the wind of change
To blow about you
And you're the only other person to know, don't tell me
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.
How can we understand
Riots by the people for the people
Who are only destroying themselves
And when you see a frightened
Person who is frightened by the
People who are scorching this earth.
Music is the traveller crossing our world
Meeting so many people bridging the seas
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.
We're just the singers in a rock and roll band.
I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band
 
So did Stills, at least at one point in time...I'm guessing this is the Flip Wilson show (duh), and it's too bad the first half is subpar quality B&W. The ending is pretty cool...

This is an interesting live cover that I just discovered in the past few days. For any Warren Z fans, despite the lyrics I never knew this was actually about his own parents, just thought he was taking literary license when he says things like "my momma couldn't be persuaded". Sort of like Dickie Betts claiming to be "born on the back of a greyhound bus. rolling down highway 41"...a fictional narrative character...

I actually prefer the original with Warren singing, Jackson's harmony and David Lindley providing the driving fiddle. But this cover includes Jackson providing the back story, which explains a LOT about Warren's psyche and personality.

 
This is an interesting live cover that I just discovered in the past few days. For any Warren Z fans, despite the lyrics I never knew this was actually about his own parents, just thought he was taking literary license when he says things like "my momma couldn't be persuaded". Sort of like Dickie Betts claiming to be "born on the back of a greyhound bus. rolling down highway 41"...a fictional narrative character...

I actually prefer the original with Warren singing, Jackson's harmony and David Lindley providing the driving fiddle. But this cover includes Jackson providing the back story, which explains a LOT about Warren's psyche and personality.

Speaking of covers, this version of My Back Pages from the 30th Anniversary Dylan show at MSG in '92 is pretty amazing. I think a lot of people have seen it before, but this version with the backstage footage and crowd shots of Kristofferson and Mellencamp is special.

The Byrds version was the semi hit that I would play on my transistor radio as a pre teen, without really understanding what the lyrics meant. Mcguinn's blistering 12 string still gives me chills...

 
Speaking of covers, this version of My Back Pages from the 30th Anniversary Dylan show at MSG in '92 is pretty amazing. I think a lot of people have seen it before, but this version with the backstage footage and crowd shots of Kristofferson and Mellencamp is special.

The Byrds version was the semi hit that I would play on my transistor radio as a pre teen, without really understanding what the lyrics meant. Mcguinn's blistering 12 string still gives me chills...

A moment of rock-n-roll history.
 
A moment of rock-n-roll history.
It's amazing (not in a good way) how health problems can cause you to be less aware of issues that you might ordinarily be more in touch with. For example I wasn't aware that the RRHOF had snubbed Warren Z back in April/May when they announced this year's inductees until today. My youtube feed this morning contained this fan created video of Warren's highlights, and while watching it I basically felt I was watching a fait d'accompli which was basically a celebration of WZ's inevitable inclusion in the 2023 class...

So when I went to see when the announcement would be public, I was beyond dismayed to discover that not only had I missed it, but also they had missed Warren. And my shock grew even greater when I discovered that other artists (some deserving,others not so much IMHO) were going to be inducted before a (IMHO) superior artist with a longer and more distinguished career. When I purchased Warren Z's debut album in summer 1976, it was one of the only debut albums I ever purchased from an artist I had never heard before.

The fact that Jackson Browne produced it, and contributed vocals along with the likes of Frey,Henley,Stevie Nicks,Bonnie Raitt, JD Souther, Carl Wilson, Phil Everly and a host of others made it an album I had to buy. And with David Lindley,Waddy Wachtel, Bobby Keys,Lindsey Buckingham and others playing you knew that it had to be good to get that level of talent to want to be a part of it. I mean no offense to Cheryl Crow (who I like) but Warren Z was making classic albums and writing incredible songs before she even popped on to the scene.

Off that debut album Linda R covered both Hasten Down the Wind and Poor Poor Pitiful Me, and along with songs like Carmelita, French Inhaler, Desperados Under the Eaves and other brilliant masterpieces that album displayed his amazing prowess as both an artist and songwriter. And that was the album before he burst on to the radio with Werewolves. and gained popularity with the general public.

IMHO the most egregious miss ever from the Hall...The epitome of a slam dunk where the ball slips out of your hand as you rise to the hoop...



And for any other WZ fans who may have never seen this (I saw it for the first time last night) this is an excellent account of the time from his diagnosis until his passing,that apparently was produced by VH1. It's a little long...

But this uses Warrens own diary and the chronicling of events of each day to tell the story in a wonderful manner. Most of it eveloves around the stuggle to get The Wind recorded, and it inludes a look into that final Letterman appearance as well. I found the section describing Bruce's collaboration on Disorder In The House personally noteworthy because Bruce flew to LA immediately after the Dec '02 Rising show in Indy, and I was at that show.

I was also struck by the way the vocal on Keep Me in Your Heart reflected the struggle Warren was having with his singing as his lung capacity diminished from the cancer. But the fact that Warren was able to survive over a year from the time the doctors gave him 3 months, and was actually able to greet his newborn twin grandsons,reprsented (IMHO) a remarable triumph of the human spirit.

 
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It's amazing (not in a good way) how health problems can cause you to be less aware of issues that you might ordinarily be more in touch with. For example I wasn't aware that the RRHOF had snubbed Warren Z back in April/May when they announced this year's inductees until today. My youtube feed this morning contained this fan created video of Warren's highlights, and while watching it I basically felt I was watching a fait d'accompli which was basically a celebration of WZ's inevitable inclusion in the 2023 class...

So when I went to see when the announcement would be public, I was beyond dismayed to discover that not only had I missed it, but also they had missed Warren. And my shock grew even greater when I discovered that other artists (some deserving,others not so much IMHO) were going to be inducted before a (IMHO) superior artist with a longer and more distinguished career. When I purchased Warren Z's debut album in summer 1976, it was one of the only debut albums I ever purchased from an artist I had never heard before.

The fact that Jackson Browne produced it, and contributed vocals along with the likes of Frey,Henley,Stevie Nicks,Bonnie Raitt, JD Souther, Carl Wilson, Phil Everly and a host of others made it an album I had to buy. And with David Lindley,Waddy Wachtel, Bobby Keys,Lindsey Buckingham and others playing you knew that it had to be good to get that level of talent to want to be a part of it. I mean no offense to Cheryl Crow (who I like) but Warren Z was making classic albums and writing incredible songs before she even popped on to the scene.

Off that debut album Linda R covered both Hasten Down the Wind and Poor Poor Pitiful Me, and along with songs like Carmelita, French Inhaler, Desperados Under the Eaves and other brilliant masterpieces that album displayed his amazing prowess as both an artist and songwriter. And that was the album before he burst on to the radio with Werewolves. and gained popularity with the general public.

IMHO the most egregious miss ever from the Hall...The epitome of a slam dunk where the ball slips out of your hand as you rise to the hoop...



And for any other WZ fans who may have never seen this (I saw it for the first time last night) this is an excellent account of the time from his diagnosis until his passing,that apparently was produced by VH1. It's a little long...

But this uses Warrens own diary and the chronicling of events of each day to tell the story in a wonderful manner. Most of it eveloves around the stuggle to get The Wind recorded, and it inludes a look into that final Letterman appearance as well. I found the section describing Bruce's collaboration on Disorder In The House personally noteworthy because Bruce flew to LA immediately after the Dec '02 Rising show in Indy, and I was at that show.

I was also struck by the way the vocal on Keep Me in Your Heart reflected the struggle Warren was having with his singing as his lung capacity diminished from the cancer. But the fact that Warren was able to survive over a year from the time the doctors gave him 3 months, and was actually able to greet his newborn twin grandsons,reprsented (IMHO) a remarable triumph of the human spirit.

And Hard-Rockin' Dolly Parton got in.

Now don't get me wrong - Dolly has a timeless voice and a well-earned and well-deserved spot in country music history, but ... the Rock-N-Roll Hall of Fame is a non-starter.
 
Funny you should reference Gram and Emmylou, because I just watched the Fallen Angel documentary last weekend. It's over an hour long, and I only intended to watch a few minutes but it grabbed a hold of me and I couldn't let go until the end.

I'm a fan, but casusal in the sense that I didn't really know a lot about him. For example how he came from imcredible wealth and his family were citrous magnates in Florida. His father shot himself while GP was young, and he took the name of the man (Bob Parsons) who became his stepfather and adopted him and his siblings...

His mother was an alcoholic who drank herself to death, and it's likely Gram inherited her addictive nature. I was also surprised how close he and Keef actually were. I thought he was more a hanger on with regards to the Stones, but he and Keith spent a lot of time together. In fact Gram and his wife actually stayed at Keith's mansion in Montreux and they all hung out and partied together during the Exile sessions.

And by the time he left the Burritos he had more than worn out his welcome (especially with Hillman) and was probably looking for a way to exit and move on. He was always drunk and late for rehearsals and shows, and on one occasion he was drunk at a Stones rehearsal session and Hillman showed up to collect him for a show they had that night. He resisted, until Jagger got in his face and scolded him about being a professional with a job (show) to do. Not long after that Hillman had had enough and one night he just fired him...

I also thought he and Emmylou were together longer than they were, but she came on to the scene relatively late. He hired her as a background singer on Hillman's recomendation, and even though she had the least actual experience with recording/touring she soon became the adult in the room.

She was shocked at how little effort they put into prepping for shows. They never really practiced entire songs,and as a result their shows were terrible. She cracked down and forced them all to actually rehearse and put songs together,and their shows actually became good instead of embarrassments where the fans booed them or stormed out...

Anyway,like I said it was pretty revealing and I learned a lot that I didn't know beforehand. Anyone who is a fan and has the time should check it out...





 
Funny you should reference Gram and Emmylou, because I just watched the Fallen Angel documentary last weekend. It's over an hour long, and I only intended to watch a few minutes but it grabbed a hold of me and I couldn't let go until the end.

I'm a fan, but casusal in the sense that I didn't really know a lot about him. For example how he came from imcredible wealth and his family were citrous magnates in Florida. His father shot himself while GP was young, and he took the name of the man (Bob Parsons) who became his stepfather and adopted him and his siblings...

His mother was an alcoholic who drank herself to death, and it's likely Gram inherited her addictive nature. I was also surprised how close he and Keef actually were. I thought he was more a hanger on with regards to the Stones, but he and Keith spent a lot of time together. In fact Gram and his wife actually stayed at Keith's mansion in Montreux and they all hung out and partied together during the Exile sessions.

And by the time he left the Burritos he had more than worn out his welcome (especially with Hillman) and was probably looking for a way to exit and move on. He was always drunk and late for rehearsals and shows, and on one occasion he was drunk at a Stones rehearsal session and Hillman showed up to collect him for a show they had that night. He resisted, until Jagger got in his face and scolded him about being a professional with a job (show) to do. Not long after that Hillman had had enough and one night he just fired him...

I also thought he and Emmylou were together longer than they were, but she came on to the scene relatively late. He hired her as a background singer on Hillman's recomendation, and even though she had the least actual experience with recording/touring she soon became the adult in the room.

She was shocked at how little effort they put into prepping for shows. They never really practiced entire songs,and as a result their shows were terrible. She cracked down and forced them all to actually rehearse and put songs together,and their shows actually became good instead of embarrassments where the fans booed them or stormed out...

Anyway,like I said it was pretty revealing and I learned a lot that I didn't know beforehand. Anyone who is a fan and has the time should check it out...





Yep. That was a good documentary.

A hard-core country-music-loving hippie musician was definitely an exception back in the day.

I learned of Parsons backwards - after a college buddy turned me on to Emmy Lou. I had listened to the Flying Burrito Brothers, but never really knew who Parson's was until later.

If had had lived, he would have written a bunch of good "outlaw" country tunes.
 
Yep. That was a good documentary.

A hard-core country-music-loving hippie musician was definitely an exception back in the day.

I learned of Parsons backwards - after a college buddy turned me on to Emmy Lou. I had listened to the Flying Burrito Brothers, but never really knew who Parson's was until later.

If had had lived, he would have written a bunch of good "outlaw" country tunes.
I basically had the same experience.I had heard of Gram, but it was thru Emmylou (esp Boulder to Birmingham) that it started to resonate with me...

Speaking of Gram's legacy, it seems like Eagles may have revised their you tube policies. A few years back it was impossible to find any original Eagles music on you tube. But the other day this showed in my video feed and I had never seen it before.

It includes shots of both Jackson Browne and JD Souther (who are both included in the album covcer photos of Desparado. So I assume this film was shot during or near the recording sessions for what has always been my (personal) favorite Eagles album...I love how the album ends with the reprise of both DoolinDalton and Desparado and it just all ties together...



Another favorite album closer from Henley and Frey is how The Last Resort closes out Hotel California. Amazing that Henley's vocal is so spot on in this live performance...

 
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Music is timeless ...

Same seven notes have been used over 2000 years. There is nothing new about a single song you posted except advanced auto tune. Every beat, rhythm, note and riff has already been played by someone else long ago, even the lyrical structures are same ole same ole ...

The last true musical innovation was Miles Davis use of modes. Even rap was invented in the early 20th century.

Plus, 1920 music >>>>>>>> 2020 music.
 
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So I was revisiting Who's Next the other night and while listening to The Song Is Over my memory got triggered by the final refrain " Excepting for a note pure and easy, playing so free like a breath trickling by"...

I knew I had heard that outro as part of a different song before, but I couldn' remember where. I thought about a theme of sequence songs by the same artist and I finally remembered where that outro came from. While every casual Who fan and their brother knows Whos Next, far fewer have ever heard Odds and Sods the '74 release of outakes and songs that didn't make the cut on albums like Quadrophenia, Tommy and Whos Next...

But as I played thru Odds (which I probably hadn't heard in 30 yrs), I was struck by how the album contained so many quality songs. I'm not a huge fan of songs like Who Are You (Imho that theme was played out) but I found a number of songs that I feel are just as good if not better than either Who Are You or most of the tunes I remember from The Who By Numbrs, which was released a year later...

For example Pure and Easy is an extremely well crafted song...(IMHO)



In addition to Long Live Rock the best rocker and Daltrey vocal is likely Put The Money Down...



I also really like Too Much of Anything, which sounds like it could have been on Quadrophenia. In fact I think it's included on the anniversary box set...



Naked Eye was a part of the live set as early as the 1970 Concert at Isle of Wight

You sign your own name
And I sign mine
They're both the same
We still get separate rooms
You can cover up your guts
But when you cover up your nuts
You're admitting that there must be something wrong

 
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