Anyone else have to look up "sheinal"?
The consequences of living in a pro-Trump county
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I'm reporting anyone who links the Monty Python "Spam" skit to Cavanagh.
Heck no, it's what gives you guys your girlish figures and pleasant demeanors.
@Cavanagh is going to end up owing me so much money by the end of all his IU fanboi bets I expect he'll try to pay me off with shares of this site.
Monty Python and LOTR.
A double virgin!
Back to the original topic... (and I'll preface this by saying that while I'm now a Right leaning, Conservative Independent, I am For masking indoors, Vaccinations and Boosters (unless medically indicated otherwise)...
Me-thinks that somewhere along the line there has been some major league cherry picking of data going on... How is it that as recently as two weeks ago both Vermont and Michigan were in the top 12 of new COVID19 cases? That bit of info doesn't seem to jibe with the underlying premise of this entire thread... Fake News???
www.google.com
From the looks of this data something doesn't match the premise:
www.healthline.com
I'm calling BS...
Me-thinks that somewhere along the line there has been some major league cherry picking of data going on... How is it that as recently as two weeks ago both Vermont and Michigan were in the top 12 of new COVID19 cases? That bit of info doesn't seem to jibe with the underlying premise of this entire thread... Fake News???
Highly-vaccinated Vermont has more COVID-19 cases than ever. Why is this happening?
Vermont has seen COVID-19 cases surge to their highest levels in the pandemic. Here's what health officials think is happening.
www.burlingtonfreepress.com
Data: Michigan seeing highest COVID case numbers in US
Michigan is once again leading the nation with the highest number of daily new COVID-19 cases, and experts don’t see an end in sight anytime soon.
From the looks of this data something doesn't match the premise:
Where COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations Are Rising
COVID-19 hospitalizations dropped significantly this past week in the United States while the number of new cases declined sharply again.
www.healthline.com
I'm calling BS...
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I learned last week that MD2020 is now sold in a can. Oh memories.
No shit? I might spread some Christmas cheer at Seminary Park.
Yep, noticed the cans at a gas station. I was tempted but I decided it was best our relationship ended long ago.
My uncle showed with four loco one year on Xmas so I wouldn’t be surprised if he brought a few MDs this year.
That 40 minutes to an hour means 4 years of vicarious winning for Trump supporters, something they never had before. It’s anything but trivial.
But it’s not the base of Trump support which is still vibrant and adamant he was cheated and gung-ho about reelecting him.
Combine that with all the new election and voting restrictions and Trump will indeed win in 2024. That’s not a hypothetical. He’s going to win. Take it to the bank.
And the reason your two visitors were wishing he would be dead is they know if he runs they will vote for him again. 3Xers.
If he gets his governor's in key swing states in place (watch Georgia, as Purdue is already saying he would never certify the election and that Kemp is the reason why it turned blue, hinting that he didn't do enough before the election or step up after the election).
Also watch the Secretary of State elections in key states, they are aggressively going after getting Trump guys into those key positions, as they pretty much set and oversee the state's election procedures.
Basically, I agree with you. I think the pubs are setting up the odds in their favor and most of the country won't be paying attention to the work done right now.
I think the biggest problem was the mixed messages people got.... you don't need to wear a mask...you do need to wear a mask. The CDC and FDA even put out different messages at one time.... you need a booster shot... no you don't need a booster shot ( or is that a third shot???).
I think now we would conclude that quality masking was underemphasized and social distancing and surface contamination were overemphasized.
The CDC insisted that SAR-COV2 spreads only by respiratory droplets that they would almost never travel 2 meters/6 feet and would survive well on surfaces.
Reality is that SAR-COV2 spreads (at least in part, and maybe predominantly) by aerosols rather than by such larger droplets, and viral particles in aerosols are much more finely dispersed, travel farther than 2 meters/6 feet, stay in the air longer, don't really survive well on surfaces, but are still reasonably well-filtered by masks (though less efficiently than the much larger droplets). Good mask availability (KN95, or better, N95-level) and mask production should have gone through the roof, and didn't.
True on surface spread, but you’re under-representing the significance of social distancing. The optimal solution is absolutely a combination of mask wearing and social distancing.
No it hasn't been clear from the beginning. Fauci stood up in front of the nation and said wearing a mask won't help. Then a short time later, he admitted that he said that to avoid a shortage for HC workers. There's been a willingness to lie and obfuscate from the very beginning and it's not mattered a hill of beans who has been in office.
No matter what people have done the result has been the same. With regards to cases.
There is no doubt in my mind that vaccines have saved lives but the whole lockdown or keep everything open arguments haven’t mattered. The end result has been the same
It’s interesting to go back and look at the debates from last March. Most people have gradually changed their positions without noticing
Reread: Clear from almost the beginning. As in, about a month after the initial confusion.
The point remains the same. If people were not wearing masks only because of that then they would start wearing them after they realized they were important to wear. I’m just following the logic of the original assertion. If people are being rational they’re being rational. If they’re being irrationally partisan they’re being irrationally partisan.
Your turn to reread: It wasn't initial confusion. It was an admitted, blatant lie.
Many people no longer trust what they're being told, regardless of whether it's true or not. To say it's a partisan issue is to deny the facts regarding who is and isn't getting jabbed.
Science is science. Dead is dead. Lies are lies.
I assume you are referring to adults. Mature adults. In other words people who can take responsibility for the information they’re receiving and determine what’s a lie and what isn’t. You don’t seem to realize it but you are really insulting all the conservatives you’re referring to. They’re a lot smarter than you give them credit for. They know that wearing a mask has a purpose. they know that infectious disease is spread through the air and contagious diseases spread by contact. By definition. Science is science. Cell phones are scientific. They work because they’re based on science. There’s nothing partisan about a cell phone. There’s nothing partisan about Covid. There’s nothing partisan about a mask. There’s nothing partisan about contact tracing. There’s nothing partisan about social distancing. This has nothing to do with belief. This has to do with what people know and yes, people do know.
You're changing your argument anyway now to make it about denying science. I'm talking about the misinformation that was knowingly put out. Both sides of the 2 party spectrum have people who aren't getting vaxxed because they don't trust what they're being told or have been told.
Cell phones? SMH
I’m not changing any argument. You and I just arguing about different things evidently. I don’t give a fvk about who lied to whom. I don’t give a shit about partisan politics. This is a dying civilization and I’m fully aware of it I’m not afraid to admit it. Democrats and Republicans alike are killing our society. Fact.
Meanwhile we have a pandemic and wearing a mask and social distancing is the sensible thing to do for any sane person. Especially if said person cares about society and others.
That’s all I had to say on the topic. If you have anything to comment on what I am discussing, fire away.
We probably agree on more things than not.
I'm just fed up with the lies from both sides, while the partisans act innocent and blame the other side for things they also do.
U-Haul Growth Index: Texas is the No. 1 Growth State of 2021 | U-Haul
Migration to southern states continues to be magnified by the lingering pandemic, and no state netted more U-Haul® customers during the last year than Texas.
www.uhaul.com
| 2021 U-HAUL GROWTH STATES | |
| 1. | TEXAS (2) |
| 2. | FLORIDA (3) |
| 3. | TENNESSEE (1) |
| 4. | SOUTH CAROLINA (15) |
| 5. | ARIZONA (5) |
| 6. | INDIANA (12) |
| 45. | NEW YORK (42) |
| 46. | ALABAMA (22) |
| 47. | MASSACHUSETTS (47) |
| 48. | PENNSYLVANIA (41) |
| 49. | ILLINOIS (49) |
| 50. | CALIFORNIA (50) |
But TrumpU-Haul Growth Index: Texas is the No. 1 Growth State of 2021 | U-Haul
Migration to southern states continues to be magnified by the lingering pandemic, and no state netted more U-Haul® customers during the last year than Texas.
2021 U-HAUL GROWTH STATES 1. TEXAS (2) 2. FLORIDA (3) 3. TENNESSEE (1) 4. SOUTH CAROLINA (15) 5. ARIZONA (5) 6. INDIANA (12)
45. NEW YORK (42) 46. ALABAMA (22) 47. MASSACHUSETTS (47) 48. PENNSYLVANIA (41) 49. ILLINOIS (49) 50. CALIFORNIA (50)
Thanks for posting this...It reminded me of an article that I will start another thread on. I woke up early and read it for a "refresher". The part that got me was the contact tracing and the "totalitarian" ways that are leaking in.
Pretty impressive for Indiana to be the only non-southern/non-sunbelt state.U-Haul Growth Index: Texas is the No. 1 Growth State of 2021 | U-Haul
Migration to southern states continues to be magnified by the lingering pandemic, and no state netted more U-Haul® customers during the last year than Texas.
2021 U-HAUL GROWTH STATES 1. TEXAS (2) 2. FLORIDA (3) 3. TENNESSEE (1) 4. SOUTH CAROLINA (15) 5. ARIZONA (5) 6. INDIANA (12)
45. NEW YORK (42) 46. ALABAMA (22) 47. MASSACHUSETTS (47) 48. PENNSYLVANIA (41) 49. ILLINOIS (49) 50. CALIFORNIA (50)
I was surprised about that. Also interesting that AL is a higher outflow state than MS
So Maine and Idaho are 'sunbelt' states?
When I rafted the Snake through Hell's Canyon a few years back it didn't seem very 'sunbelty'...
