Thanks, GOP & NRA! 231 Mass Shooting in 2024 (UPDATED 06/20/24)
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Are you going to be home? I will be on my golf cart.
When this board was talking about Ferguson, Missouri you claimed to be an irrefutable authority because you were something or other in Missouri (a misdemeanor public defender maybe? I can't remember).
When this board was talking about Trump's claims that he could improve NAFTA, you claimed that you were an irrefutable authority because you were an "international businessman" (though admitting you were doing business somewhere in the world other than Canada or Mexico).
When this board began talking about Desantis, you claimed you were an irrefutable expert because you had become a newby resident of Florida.
Because you've admitted in the past you got screwed in a shitty divorce and posted some things after drinking, many of us are sympathetic to you.
So get off my ass, and accept my support for your future irrefutable opinions about divorce and drinking.
No you’re the problem. Just quick to pile on to one side while ignoring your own side’s garbage. You are everything that is wrong with this country. And board really. You don’t contribute to discussion. Just vomit partisan crap.
As for my posts. I post only in threads where I know what I’m talking about.
Now. Care to do Dems in cities and crime?
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"Support the NRA"
"Back the Blue"
Both in your sig line.
Incongruous
You cannot do both.
Pick one.
Was this last post of yours due to getting screwed in your divorce or drinking too much?
Get off my ass. Makes no sense. I agree with you a good part of the time.
Unintentionally I think you made my argument for me. It took you 3 sentences to jump right stright to more regulation of the tool not the problem. Just make more laws. Make more reg's. Make bigger gov. Thanks for making my point.
banning something doesn’t create more gov
Your point is you want what you want. That’s your only point
You agree with me a good part of the time bc I’m not partisan on every issue. That’s the point
I actually agree that you're not a partisan, as in you're not automatically auto-Republican, auto-Conservative or auto-Trumpist.
Nor am I the contrapositive.
The Constitution says the 2nd amendment can't be abridged. The "scary" AR15 isn't an automatic and other rifles fire as fast but with more dangerous ammo. Quit taking away guns from Americans except for the criminal people IE gangbangers, gun runners, and steals guns. Women love the AR15 along with men so tread very carefully or voters will vote you out of office. These rifles are assault rifles but guns that fire one round at a time.
We have 6 gun shooters that can fire as fast as machine guns, are they going to be outlawed too. I am guessing they aren't go after the gangs to get their guns and fat chance getting all the AR which is armilite rifle not automatic rifle as you and so many others think.
Many of the people pushing this Bill have never fired a gun and have no idea what it is like. Go and collect the AK 47 that fire so rapidly because it can be fired on automatic but not legal Americans that by guns legally.
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Gun/weapon control, as existed throughout history and acknowledged (and then ignored) by SCOTUS in its most recent partisan-Republican ruling.
An amendment that talks about "militias" but says nothing about "personal protection" cannot possibly lead to "textualist" or "originalist" interpretations establishing a person's supposed right to own firearms just because he wants to. Simply put, "personal protection" is not a stated goal of the Second Amendment.
I know I'm right, because the Bruen decision reads as silly as the Dred Scott Decision. It recognizes that many communities restricted ownership of weapons as far back as the 13th century and then acts like the founders did not know about that when they enacted an amendment to foster only "militias," while their Second Amendment said nothing about "personal protection,"
Read it and learn.
The second amendment reads: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
It says nothing about personal love of guns or even "personal protection," and gun bans were not unusual in communities for several hundred years before the Second Amendment was adopted. The founders certainly knew that many local communities banned guns.
And remember the gun-supporting Republicans never, ever acknowledge that the Second Amendment refers only to "arms" without limitation. Nonetheless, the gun-loving Republicans accept federal bans on private ownership of other "arms" like F-18s, tanks, rocket launchers, land mines and on and on.
Republicans love guns and really don't care how they are used, so long as they get reelected. It's a shame. Republicans used to have family values.
Oh yeah women LOVE the AR15. I have no doubt some women do, but you can check multiple polls that most people, not just women, don’t feel like guns like AR15 s are necessary for home use. Oh and many police don’t either. It makes their job harder.
Red flag laws and automatic gun restrictions that were in place ( during which time mass murders dropped) before Republican voted to drop them, tighten up background checks such as at gun shows. To start with. What’s your proposal?
Views on semiautomatic weapons remain partisan - AP-NORC
In a survey conducted primarily before the mass shootings in Buffalo, NY and Uvalde, TX, 51% favor a ban on semiautomatic weapons while 32% are opposed.
apnorc.org
That's actually the same thing (unless the Republicans have actually interviewed all 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6-grade teachers to find out if (1) they want to be armed, and (2) they have the mental capacity to be armed.
Saying teachers should be armed sounds like just more Republican blabbing, so they can be reelected. Typical Republicans.
Ah.
The same zero response from Spartans, once again.
Spartans, what is your own response to eliminate school shootings?
(Good luck trying not to sound like Kevin McCarthy!)
I have no problems with any of those but would need specifics on the red flag laws. I don’t know a soul with an automatic weapon. I’ve never been to a gun show
One reason people are afraid of "reasonable gun regulation" is because it will never stop. Many are dedicated to incrementally reducing 2d Amendment rights, one by one, until there are no rights left. But the most important reason is because they are mandated by the US Constitution.
And, driving a car is NOT a right since it is not mentioned in the Constitution. Instead, it is considered a "privilege" and it is not afforded the same protection as a constitutional right.
Ah, OK, that means you have no proposals of your own. Good to know.
People that actually have their own proposals can provide their own "specifics" without lying in the weeds waiting to ambush someone else's proposal.
No worries -- that's a typical Republican/ Gingrich tactic we've all seen before.
Have a good Republican evening!! You won't have any misgivings about anything you proposed, will you?
Don’t trust teachers to pick out books for your child, but trust them with guns? Make it make sense.
Just like cars, ownership or use of a machinegun or tank or ICBM is not mentioned in the Constitution, thus those are not "mandated" by the Constitution according to your post.
Nonetheless, Republicans seeking reelection vehemently oppose all gun regulation without explaining why their absolutist view of the Second Amendment does not oppose the government from restricting or banning the use of machineguns or tanks or ICBMs ( which Republicans accept). Those are "arms", too.
You and the Republicans cannot explain away such inconsistencies.
Please tell me this: does the Second Amendment block the government from infringing my right to own an atom bomb or not?
Now, now, no cheating! Answer the question!
It makes sense to Republicans seeking election or reelection. That's all Republicans care about these days.
If you are on an anti-psychotic you are unable to purchase firearms. Or if you’ve ever been on an antipsychotic you are unable to purchase firearms.
If centerfire semi-auto long guns were not available for public purchase…then so be it.
Does it end there?
We get into this kind of discussion over deaths at a school - and rightfully so - and yet don't blink at all when we see the weekend murder totals in our major cities.
We have mass shootings happening all the time - non-AR deaths, but from normal handguns - just not in one place, in our cities. Every day.
You live in a state that has Red Flag laws. Passed by a Republican legislature and government.
which is why muskets should always be legal for members of our well regulated militia.
that said, rocket launchers aren't legal, and shouldn't be.
officially changing the industry term for rocket launcher to rifle, shouldn't instantly make them legal, as they as would still be no more a musket than an AR 15, and someone deeming himself a member of our militia, if he isn't, doesn't make that so either.
For these mass shootings...
1. Reinstitute the assault weapons bans from the 90s. Police unions are begging for it. MAGA!
2. Close all private transfer loop holes.
3. Federal background checks and clearance. Those on terrorist watch list cannot own a gun.
4. Mental health check. No guns for the crazies.
For the city gun problems...
1. Assault weapons ban from the 90s MAGA!
2. End the war on drugs. Didn't work and is the cause of most of the countries gang violence. May not be Cheaper buts it's certainly easier to deal with a few more addicts than it is to deal with dead kids from gang crossfire.
3. Invest heavily in the poorest neighborhoods. Through the schools and big tax incentives to businesses to put up shop in these areas. This is for poor rural areas too.
1. Reinstitute the assault weapons bans from the 90s. Police unions are begging for it. MAGA!
2. Close all private transfer loop holes.
3. Federal background checks and clearance. Those on terrorist watch list cannot own a gun.
4. Mental health check. No guns for the crazies.
For the city gun problems...
1. Assault weapons ban from the 90s MAGA!
2. End the war on drugs. Didn't work and is the cause of most of the countries gang violence. May not be Cheaper buts it's certainly easier to deal with a few more addicts than it is to deal with dead kids from gang crossfire.
3. Invest heavily in the poorest neighborhoods. Through the schools and big tax incentives to businesses to put up shop in these areas. This is for poor rural areas too.
Should we have a list of all Americans that are on antipsychotics publicly available?
Or are you defining mental health check in a different manner?
You make some good points.
But I can't take them seriously when you add party to your point, as conversely, Dem open border policy is linked to 10s of thousands of fentanyl deaths.
Both parties are totally worthless, so adding them to an argument doesn't help your point at all.
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