You've described a fans problem, not a university problem.
suckered once again...
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If the university conditioned the fan to not care about football for so long, who's fault is it?
If you think the people that make the decisions about football and basketball over the past 20 years don't understand the math/revenue that you laid out, then you have your head up your own ass.
So correct from top to bottom. Basic history lesson lining out FB in the state of Indiana. Would add the Colts move to and staying in Indiana has added positively to the advancement of FB.
They’ve understood the math for decades. It’s what they've chosen to do about it that is meaningful.
Post-Doninger, every AD has made football a priority. Except maybe Clapacs, but he doesn’t count in my book.
You just made my point.
It's always about basketball. Basketball is always in the conversation when football is brought up, because basketball in king at Indiana.
Thank you.
A priority over basketball? Not really. They’ve made it more of a priority than it was for maybe ten years, but it hasn’t been prioritized over basketball.
Really?
What has the university done to get fans invested?
Horrible coaching hires? That's for sure. We've had like four or five coaches in program history with a career winning record here.
We didn't start hiring serious coaches until Hep, and then made a emotional decision with Lynch. Not his fault, but he wasn't qualified to be a Big 10 head coach. Wilson, if he could controll himself, could have been good, and I think Allen has a chance to be good here for a long time.
We are making headway with facilities, but we desperately need a new indoor facility. That thing needs tore down and rebuilt. It's old and dated.
What am I missing? I guess the big flag that was put up some years ago.
The university should have done more for football in the past and even today the commitment to football is not what it should be BUT I don't think the university has conditioned anyone not to care about FB.
I will agree that the Colts have helped but Indiana was a basketball state so I am not sure how much IU could have done to stem that tide. The lack of support for the football program from fans was ingrained into the fabric of the state.
The commitment to FB has been real for some time. IU has had some bad breaks and a steep hill to climb playing in the Big Boy division and overcoming recruiting challenges. It will come.
I said since Doninger, dude.
Hep came right after DiNardo, who was not successful on the field but as much as anyone pushed the envelope of saying 'you've gotta give football a higher priority!'
This is all chump change against the $7 BILLION tv contract the B1G has signed. Assuming that money will be distributed evenly amongst all B1G teams then the sports financial playing field has pretty much been leveled. Approximately $500 million per school.
Ummm....it hasn't been leveled within the conference. And SEC schools will have close to as that amount per school. SO yes, we'll be among the top 30 funded schools via TV money, but we'll still be woefully behind the schools that pack their football stadiums every week.
All that does is allows us the OPPORTUNITY to outspend the OKIE States, Texas Techs, Oregons, UNCs and the like from other conferences. Still near the bottom in the B1G and SEC.
46K sold Sat plus sold out parking for a no name game. They are getting there slowly,
Al Bino said it best, the University hasn't conditioned the fans to disregard the FB program - ridiculous.
I love all these big, melodramatic posts after a win. Also, people should probably start waiting till the game is over to start threads.
Yes, better. But even if we sell out every week, we're still going to be woefully behind most of our B1G and SEC brethren for ticket revenue.
But but but don't you pay attention? That was only because everyone else had to deal with Covid and IU did not. Complete fluke season.
When the “football schools” have been controlling basketball in the Big Ten for the last 25 years, it may be time to rethink things.
IU may be one of the few examples of a “basketball school” that doesn’t dominate its own conference in basketball. For all the emphasis, there’s been little in return since the turn of this century.
IU may be one of the few examples of a “basketball school” that doesn’t dominate its own conference in basketball. For all the emphasis, there’s been little in return since the turn of this century.
You’ve made several references to an impending announcement of suites. When is that news going t be made public?
I will agree with you that the state of Indiana is a basketball first state, which is where the problem lies.
I'm probably not wording my argument very well. I shouldn't have said the university conditioned people not to care about football. But I 100% believe the university has treated the football program as a lesser then, and that happened for entirely to long.
We have reversible jacket fans. Notre Dame Football and Indiana basketball. Does that happen anywhere else? I honestly don't know.
When we had an interim AD (I forget who it was) I went to here him speak. He said that Michigan made more in one home game that IU for the entire football season!! That season UM had EIGHT home games. Tough to compete with that!
In another thread someone mentioned 110,000 times $40 for UM per game. I have been a couple of times to the big house. The last time was probably 20 years ago and I paid $90 each for my son and I and we were in the corner about 2/3 of the way towards the top. I have to figure that it is well north of $100 now days.
I was curious so I went and looked.
It really depends on the game, which completely makes sense. Right now, you can get tickets to UCONN for under $50 in the nose bleeds. The next home game against Michigan State, they jump to $255.
I do? I actually know the people to my east and north, but not to my west (they’re rarely there). To my south is the driveway that separates our row. What is your location? In case you’re not there, when are the suites going in?
We went all through this last season. You remember, don't you...how quickly you changed the subject once your bluff was called.
But now you say that wasn't you...but oddly, you also park in the white lot just like that other guy claimed to. Such an amazing coinkydink...wouldn't you say?
What is your spot number?
You claimed you park next to my spot . . . Not sure how you would know that, but I already told you I know the people to my east and north. Since you’ve made the claim, I’ll look forward to knowing if you’re in the spot to our west (I was there for Illinois but not Idaho). The people next to us were rarely there last season, so I have a feeling that’s not you. Since you brought t up, please let me know where your spot location. Thanks.
In the same spot I always do, with people I know to my east and north. The spot directly to my west was vacant. Sorry, but I’m not interested in another rabbit hole. Since you raised this, you can either reveal your spot or not, but I’m not playing along any longer.
Interesting, you were at the game and parked in "the same spot I always do" and yet "weren't there" by your own admission.
Tough to keep track of lies isn't it???
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