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Stephen A Smith is going to be a little richer & the highest paid ESPN talent

When the "free press" tries to spin politcally motivated lies as the absolute truth, and then it is later proven absolutely false, then the press deliberately attempting to deceivingly control public opinion through lies and partial quotes taken out of context. And that is the enemy of a free people, when your news is basically a mouthpiece with a propaganda agenda for one particular party, like Pravda in the Soviet Union. A free press should not be tied to promoting the agenda of one political party, then it is a controlled press, and not a free press. I agree that a free press is not an enemy of a free people. But a controlled press is. If the shoe was on the other foot, would everyone feel the same way? The press needs to report the news without injecting political opinion or agenda. Then it is a free press. We do not have a free press.

America hasn't had a free press for decades, anyone that thinks we have is either totally ignorant or just not paying attention.

I've often said that todays media outlets would have made Hitler so proud.

The level of constant hatred we've seen from the media the last 5 years should have us all hanging our heads in shame. It's beyond embarrassing.
 
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My 2 favorite Stephen A Smith moments:

1) About 10-12 years ago he's the guest on a radio show and they're talking about Chinese prospects who might come after Yao Ming. When the two hosts are done, Smith says, "I'm tired of talking about all the European players, let's talk about..." Yes, Smith thought China was in Europe.

2) Way back when he was on the NBA Pre/Half Time show with Barkley & Kenny Smith. He was blabbing on and on and Barkley and Smith are getting visibly irritated. Finally, Smith says, "Have you ever even put on a uniform?"
 
America hasn't had a free press for decades, anyone that thinks we have is either totally ignorant or just not paying attention.

I've often said that todays media outlets would have made Hitler so proud.

The level of constant hatred we've seen from the media the last 5 years should have us all hanging our heads in shame. It's beyond embarrassing.
My apologies to the board in advance for contributing to an off-topic political thread. Feel free to ignore the following comments as they are not related to IU basketball. I will promise that this is my last response in this thread but I believe the previous comment should not stand without rebuttal:

America has always had, and continues to have a free press. Never in this country's history has the government successfully suppressed the media's criticism of it, despite efforts that date all the way back to John Adams. Even in wartime, when the media was particularly respectful and restrained, there are still many examples of media criticism of Presidents, Congress, and the military.

If your commentary is meant to refer to media bias, of course we have that - as we have always had. Every President in the history of this country has complained about it. It's just that 24-7 coverage in multiple media formats and the general increase in incivility today makes it more pervasive. And I agree that the level of vitriol is shameful and blame lies with both liberal and conservative media. That's a sad consequence of media becoming intertwined with entertainment and shock jocks looking for ratings being mistaken for journalists.

My point in the earlier post is that we as a society should worry when a politician seriously suggests that media criticism of him personally is treasonous or that particular media should be shut down or banned - even harmless parody. It's more worrisome when a significant number of citizens agree with him. We still have libel laws in this country. Any politician who believes the media has told damaging lies with malicious intent is free to sue. The problem for those politicians is that you can't sue when what has been reported is a damaging truth - or that exposing a media untruth means you have to expose and lay bare things you yourself have lied about. Ask Dick Nixon.

I won't respond beyond this.
 
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America has always had, and continues to have a free press. Never in this country's history has the government successfully suppressed the media's criticism of it, despite efforts that date all the way back to John Adams. Even in wartime, when the media was particularly respectful and restrained, there are still many examples of media criticism of Presidents, Congress, and the military.

If your commentary is meant to refer to media bias, of course we have that - as we have always had. Every President in the history of this country has complained about it. It's just that 24-7 coverage in multiple media formats and the general increase in incivility today makes it more pervasive.

My point in the earlier post is that we as a society should worry when a politician seriously suggests that media criticism of him personally is treasonous or that particular media should be shut down or banned - even harmless parody. It's more worrisome when a significant number of citizens agree with him. We still have libel laws in this country. Any politician who believes the media has told damaging lies with malicious intent is free to sue. The problem for those politicians is that you can't sue when what has been reported is a damaging truth - or that exposing a media untruth means you have to expose and lay bare things you yourself have lied about. Ask Dick Nixon.

What we have today is not news, it's only meant to point fingers and sway public opinion. I'm talking about everyone here, not just certain media outlets.

Isn't it interesting how we will overlook the sins of some when we actually agree with what they are saying, even if we know it's not based in fact?

One thing the media has stopped doing is providing a retraction when they've falsely accused someone and been proven to be wrong. Now they just make excuses and move on to the next set of accusations.

We can agree to disagree, but the truth is there are different rules for different people.
 
That guy is awful. I can’t stand listening to him. But, I only turn to ESPN for the games. They have become too political.
me neither...but you may not be his, or ESPN’s, target audience.

I aslo feel like ESPN spends too large amount of time on the NBA...
Agreed, I do not appear to be in their targeted demographic. The research must show it is not cost effective which I find difficult to believe.
 
“Too many looking for an echochamber instead of diverse viewpoints....”

well that sounds like the Archie Apologists Club on this very own forum!!!
I think you missed the point. Wouldn't you say there are diverse viewpoints here ? If the mods banned everyone who wanted Archie fired (or everyone who didn't) it would be the very definition of an echo chamber. I appreciate that people here are free to disagree and argue their point with those on the other side - even if I happen to think they are wrong.
I agree with your thesis. Intellectual debate on the issues is a root of the American experiment. But when intellect and courtesy disintegrate into profane insults and intimidation the debate becomes lost along with any positive ideas that might better the conditions being examined.
 
Yep. The Exclusive (red)Sox and Patriots Network.

As for the politics or how much S.A. Smith is paid, I'm sure ESPN has done enough research to know the market value. I watch college football and basketball as well as the occasional MLB game on the ESPN networks but never tune in to the sports talk shows or any coverage of the NBA or NFL. But I'm fully aware a lot of people do. If SAS can get 10 million from them, more power to him.

I find the idea that there is some liberal agenda on a sports network that has any influence on American society kind of laughable. Most people in America avoid political content on TV that differs from their own views - on both sides. That's a big part of our problem in this hyper-partisan country. Too many citizens looking for an echo chamber instead of listening to diverse viewpoints and making their own decisions. When we become so lazy that we allow talking heads to dictate our reality to us, we are deserving of the problems that mindset spawns.

I do find it incredibly disturbing, however, that anyone would support an elected official who views a free press as the enemy of the people. Nothing can be more of a threat to democracy than that mindset.
When the "free press" tries to spin politcally motivated lies as the absolute truth, and then it is later proven absolutely false, then the press deliberately attempting to deceivingly control public opinion through lies and partial quotes taken out of context. And that is the enemy of a free people, when your news is basically a mouthpiece with a propaganda agenda for one particular party, like Pravda in the Soviet Union. A free press should not be tied to promoting the agenda of one political party, then it is a controlled press, and not a free press. I agree that a free press is not an enemy of a free people. But a controlled press is. If the shoe was on the other foot, would everyone feel the same way? The press needs to report the news without injecting political opinion or agenda. Then it is a free press. We do not have a free press.
I assume you are talking about the FOX network.
 
I find Bill Walton entertaining and funny. Much like Charles Barkley. SAS is neither.
I don't want a TV color person talking about way off topic and stupid things while I watch a game. The stoned kids in high school and college were pretty funny to listen to. It isn't fun when the person is 70 years old and not high.
 
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