The ad criticizes toxic masculinity--it criticizes the purveyors of that toxic culture and asks men to model non-toxic masculinity and to, instead, stand up against bullying and abuse. The right sees this as an attack on men and masculinity. Takeaway: bullying, abuse and toxic masculinity are central to what the right regards as being male.
I said in another post, that they have made ads like that aimed at young girls and bullying. Some public service. But no, I wouldn’t be mad at all. I’d welcome it.
Lol at NOT caring what schools think. Want to check suspension/ drop out rates and put them up against incarceration numbers, etc? Where do you think it starts? Oh forgot. Because you got suspended and turned out ok , that’s evidence that everyone else does too. And when I was discussing fights at schools I said parents came in saying they told kids they could hit if someone was reading them. Feminine narrative? Lol. How about teacher narrative? Saw it, lived it narrative?
The ad only focuses on bullying and abuse...and only asks people to do the right thing. Lots of guys are in prison precisely because they abuse others in a criminal fashion.
This reminds me of the back and forth on "extremist Islam." I didn't agree that psychotic behavior equates to any form of Islam and I don't agree that cowardice equates to any form of masculinity. Men aren't cowards.
Are there bad guys out there? Sure. But it's not the fault of being masculine. Gillette better be careful because people don't like to be lectured to, and they are getting close to the line that the football players did by kneeling, protesting their own country during the national anthem. Now that the kneeling has stopped ratings for the NFL are coming back. Who'd of thunk it? Stop putting people down and they might become good customers again.
Hate to break it to you but not only is the phrase real so is the phenomena it describes. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/16/sci...ssage-of-gillettes-toxic-masculinity-ad-.html
So you're counter is CNBC justifying their made up phrase by referencing a study from the APA that doesn't include the phrase "Toxic Masculinity" anywhere.
And why exactly am I supposed to lend credence to a bunch of worthless psychologists who banded together to form an organization in the hope that people would find them credible?
Did you do one ounce of research into the APA, or do you just assume acronym = credibility?
First line on their wikipedia page
"The APA has task forces that issue policy statements on various matters of social importance, including abortion, human rights, the welfare of detainees, human trafficking, the rights of the mentally ill, IQtesting, sexual orientation change efforts, and gender equality"
Oh yeah that doesn't sound like a political organization at all......
Nope, just asking if having issued statements automatically makes a body political? Because if so, I doubt there is an apolitical organization in the US. If not, what make psychologists different from Baptists?
Too many conservatives accept science only if it agrees with whatever notion they have.
If you're talking about rough housing and typical, at least at the time I think, boy stuff - yeah I did a lot of it. I don't know how much different my experiences are from other guys, but I'd guess they're a lot different than many. Especially the younger guys here. Until the summer after second grade, when my parents divorced, I lived out in the country. I had a lot of friends my age and we wrestled, fought and all that. I wrestled and fought with my best two friends more than anyone else. Usually, we did it for fun, but there were times it went a little far and we'd get mad and really fight. One of us would "give" and then we went back to being friends. I learned a lot about fighting that helped later on. I was also taught never to look for a fight, never hit girls, protect girls if other guys were trying to hit them, and if a fight was going to happen you defend yourself and try to end it quickly. I did very well in school, but I did spend my share of time in the corner for overly rambunctious behavior with my friends on the playground. We'd also spend almost all day outside playing baseball, football, whatever. It was a lot of fun.
Something tells me that Trump didn't tease, roughhouse, or play tackle football. He grew up a spoiled little rich boy and still turned out a sexist bully.
In short, nothing about bullying.If you're talking about rough housing and typical, at least at the time I think, boy stuff - yeah I did a lot of it. I don't know how much different my experiences are from other guys, but I'd guess they're a lot different than many. Especially the younger guys here. Until the summer after second grade, when my parents divorced, I lived out in the country. I had a lot of friends my age and we wrestled, fought and all that. I wrestled and fought with my best two friends more than anyone else. Usually, we did it for fun, but there were times it went a little far and we'd get mad and really fight. One of us would "give" and then we went back to being friends. I learned a lot about fighting that helped later on. I was also taught never to look for a fight, never hit girls, protect girls if other guys were trying to hit them, and if a fight was going to happen you defend yourself and try to end it quickly. I did very well in school, but I did spend my share of time in the corner for overly rambunctious behavior with my friends on the playground. We'd also spend almost all day outside playing baseball, football, whatever. It was a lot of fun.
After that we moved to the "city" and I sort of kept the same set of rules though it was rough for the new kid for a while as we lived in the roughest part of town for a few years. I never started a fight and tried to avoid them, but I had plenty of them. Sometimes you just can't avoid them. I had to protect my little sister (two years younger) and my female cousin too. I also learned how to get along with people of all backgrounds. Don't need or want to tell the whole story, but it turned out alright. To be honest, I'm grateful for all of it. It was a good experience overall and prepared me in many ways for what I've done with my life since then.
My daughter has lived a life of privilege in comparison, and that's what I wanted for her. She also knows it, because I've shown her the places I lived and the neighborhoods my schools were located. She has quite a bit more gratitude for how her life was - and is.
I was taught not to do it and not to tolerate it. I didn't do it and I didn't tolerate it. Those are the more memorable fights.
...and your solution for all the bullying that goes on today, leading to suicides and all sorts of other unfortunate consequences is...? (this is a discussion forum, so let's hear it)
