lol wait, what? Are we still arguing about winning another B1G title? The tournament takes talent and luck. IU has had the talent but the luck hasn't come through but will in time. This year IU is set to be stocked and ready to make another great run. As long as IU continues to put themselves in this type of position they are indeed going to be considered Elite. I like the depth the coach currently has. We could lose players to the draft and still have a decent team coming back so personally I think IU is playing at an elite level. They just won't be considered elite until time passes and we continue to play at this elite level. During that extended period of time, one would surmise a long tourney run or more would be expected, of course. To keep saying its been 8 years shows everything we need to know about your comments.