Something tells me Cray is closer than you imagine.
Russia-Ukraine war has begun
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155 artillery shells should be one of the easier things to make … spin cast a steel sheet metal disk over a form … pour molten steel into a two part mound. Lots of Toluene in Urkrain to make TNT. From ISW…
Ukrainian Presidential Advisor Oleksandr Kamyshin stated on September 15 that Ukraine has started domestic serial production of 155mm artillery shells.[18] Kamyshin stated that Ukrainian production of defense products doubled while he oversaw the Ministry of Strategic Industries (March 2023 to September 2024) and will triple by the end of 2024. Ukraine began domestically producing NATO-standard 155mm shells in small volumes no later than September 2023 after having never produced these shells before.[19]
Ukrainian Presidential Advisor Oleksandr Kamyshin stated on September 15 that Ukraine has started domestic serial production of 155mm artillery shells.[18] Kamyshin stated that Ukrainian production of defense products doubled while he oversaw the Ministry of Strategic Industries (March 2023 to September 2024) and will triple by the end of 2024. Ukraine began domestically producing NATO-standard 155mm shells in small volumes no later than September 2023 after having never produced these shells before.[19]
It seems that UAF found a very rich target.
From ISW …
Ukrainian forces conducted a successful drone strike against a Russian missile and ammunition storage facility near Toropets, Tver Oblast on September 18. This is over halfway to St Petersburg north of Kiev.
https://news.sky.com/video/telegram...k-on-toropets-in-russias-tver-region-13217093
SAM depot losses will hamper Russian air defenses along with the cruise missile losses.
Ukrainian forces conducted a successful drone strike against a Russian missile and ammunition storage facility near Toropets, Tver Oblast on September 18. This is over halfway to St Petersburg north of Kiev.
https://news.sky.com/video/telegram...k-on-toropets-in-russias-tver-region-13217093
SAM depot losses will hamper Russian air defenses along with the cruise missile losses.
Reddit posters are saying that was (is) around 30 kilotons of explosive power.
Nagasaki was 21.
And it rang seismographs the world over. Someone will publish a paper with the equivalent yield some day.
The GD explosions went on for like 9 hours, from the time stamped videos that I watched.
Major MAJOR hit on Russian capabilities, as far as my small mind can understand.
Ukraine seems to be rolling right now since they have taken a chance and changed the peradium of warfare.
Russia is well prepared to throw meatwaves on other peoples soil, but when it comes to a rapid movement , multi pronged, combined warfare approach, their only answer is to slaughter more of their own.
I’m a hard muther fcker, but the videos of dead Russians who don’t want or understand this is staggering.
The Russian level of indoctrination, is why some in America are fighting so hard against it happening here. It may take another 50 yrs in America, but some have already started, and 50 yrs isn’t long in the big picture.
DC needs to send what ever it takes to stomp Russians ass, now! Then follow with total ideology Armageddon for that type of thinking world wide.
Just my thoughts.
Guardian: Russia prepared for Kursk invasion for months, still failed dramatically.
www.theguardian.com
Revealed: Russia anticipated Kursk incursion months in advance, seized papers show
Exclusive: Documents contain months of warnings about possible Ukrainian advance and also reveal concerns about morale
Guardian: Russia prepared for Kursk invasion for months, still failed dramatically.
Revealed: Russia anticipated Kursk incursion months in advance, seized papers show
Exclusive: Documents contain months of warnings about possible Ukrainian advance and also reveal concerns about morale
Russians ineptitude has seemingly never ended. It was atrocious in WWII.
Big difference between warning of the possibility and taking concrete steps to prevent it.Guardian: Russia prepared for Kursk invasion for months, still failed dramatically.
Revealed: Russia anticipated Kursk incursion months in advance, seized papers show
Exclusive: Documents contain months of warnings about possible Ukrainian advance and also reveal concerns about morale
The docs may be real, but it sounds like a Ukrainian psy-ops effort: "Look - they knew we were coming and still couldn't stop us".
Anyone who claimed they saw the Kursk invasion as a real possibility is BSing. Absolutely no one was predicting Ukraine would invade Russian territory.
The Ukrainians shared the docs with The Guardian. So that's their take on them. If they are real, it looks like Russia did actually take concrete steps, albeit inadequate ones.
Putting untrained home guard types troops as defense isn't very concrete, and I doubt anyone in Russia thought it would actually happen.
Just my opinion, based on the fact the entire operation took the world by surprise.
Yes, they were warned about Kursk in WW2 … the southern NAZI pincher led with their armor and succeeded … the northern Nazi pincher led with their infantry and failed … then got ground on by Russian reserves.
What has the war taught us? Russia can't shoot. move and communicate. The Ukraine's can hold them off with no air superiority and with limited resources. That leaves the Russians with only one option in a fight with Nato who will have superior force, air superiority and the ability to shoot, move and communicate. The bomb.
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Putin is a school yard bully. Even he knows if he plays any type of that weapon, no matter how small, it is over. Although it is a high stake game for sure, sooner or later everyone figures out that living in fear is worse than the damage a bully can actually hold over you.
Put up or shut the hell up putin. Either way, you are going to be sent to hell. Since he will end up there anyway, maybe he doesn't care, but history says that since he is this close to the end anyway, he is probably recalculating his initial #'s and is about to be checked out anyway.
That's been the Russian M.O. since the 19th century.
Hell, their ICBMs are blowing up their silos.
I don't think Putin is 100% sure his order to fire off a nuke would be obeyed.
I think realistically we have kind of known that since the Cold War. The only card they hold anymore is mutually assured destruction, which I think makes dealing with them a little more tenuous.
Conventionally, they are a chicken egg. A thin shell that once penetrated provides no resistance at all. I still hold to the belief that in a purely conventional conflict, the only thing that would slow NATO forces from being at Moscow's doorstep is how quickly their supply chain could keep up.
Zelensky knows full well that if Trump wins, one of his first actions in office will be to sacrifice Ukraine to Putin. You can tell it in his body language, his demeanor...and now even his comments.
Trump -- being who he is -- naturally uses the occasion of a meeting with Zelensky to tout that he "also (has) a very good relationship with President Putin." Just humiliating Zelensky, with him standing right the hell there.
What did we do to deserve these two candidates for the presidency? How the hell did we get here?
Trump -- being who he is -- naturally uses the occasion of a meeting with Zelensky to tout that he "also (has) a very good relationship with President Putin." Just humiliating Zelensky, with him standing right the hell there.
What did we do to deserve these two candidates for the presidency? How the hell did we get here?
He really can't help him self, and thankfully you are always here to warn us. You do great work.
Darn. I didn’t realize I was replying in this thread. It’s supposed to be free of politics so I deleted my post.
Good idea, but I'll still defend you. You were merely teaching/ re-educating us. Someone has to lead and you are doing great work.
I thought Trump's statement after the meeting was a lot different that his previous language. He said he wanted a 'fair' deal. And he also said he learned a lot from his discussion with Z.
I think Trump is trying to appear in the middle in order to get Putin to negotiate in good faith.
By the way, your post is political and Goat doesn't allow that in this thread.
From ISW 10/6
- Russian forces have reportedly lost at least five divisions’ worth of armored vehicles and tanks in Pokrovsk Raion since beginning their offensive operation to seize Avdiivka in October 2023 and during intensified Russian offensive operations in western Donetsk Oblast in Summer 2024.
- The Russian military command may not be willing or able to accept the current scale and rate of vehicle loss in the coming months and years given the constraints in Russia's defense industrial production, limits to Russia’s Soviet-era vehicle stockpiles, and the Russian military's failure to achieve operationally significant territorial advances through mechanized maneuver.
Ukraine is giving ground in some areas. My theory is they're withdrawing to get the Russians out of their defensive positions and will, at some point, counter attack.
The Russians are still only regaining ground they won initially in 2022.
No real need to vigorously protect any ‘No Man’s Land’, that has already been defiled by the ravages of war. Ukrainian tactical commanders have been coached up since 2016. Counterattacks they should be good at.
From ISW 10/14 … Hard to believe impressed prisoners will get coached up to make superior, motivated soldiers.
Russian authorities reportedly continue to impress migrants into signing military contracts. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's (RFE/RL) Current Time outlet reported on October 14 that Russian prison authorities are using threats of punishment to force prisoners from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan to renounce their native citizenship, apply for Russian citizenship, and sign contracts with the Russian military to fight in Ukraine.[63] Current Time reported that prisoners stated that Russian prison guards are intentionally treating Tajik and Uzbek prisoners poorly to coerce them to sign Russian military contracts.
Russian authorities reportedly continue to impress migrants into signing military contracts. Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's (RFE/RL) Current Time outlet reported on October 14 that Russian prison authorities are using threats of punishment to force prisoners from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan to renounce their native citizenship, apply for Russian citizenship, and sign contracts with the Russian military to fight in Ukraine.[63] Current Time reported that prisoners stated that Russian prison guards are intentionally treating Tajik and Uzbek prisoners poorly to coerce them to sign Russian military contracts.
From ISW 10/16. … 49 M1 A1 would equip about 3 companies (1/2 a brigade)
US President Joe Biden announced a new military assistance package for Ukraine worth $425 million following a phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on October 16.[16] Biden stated that the package will include additional air defense capabilities, air-to-ground munitions, armored vehicles, and unspecified munitions and that the US will provide Ukraine will hundreds of air defense interceptors, dozens of tactical air defense systems, hundreds of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, and thousands of additional armored vehicles in the coming months. The Department of Defense (DoD) specified that the package will include additional munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS), RIM-7 missiles and support for air defense, Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), air-to-ground munitions, 155mm and 105mm artillery munitions, tube-launched, optically tracked, wire-guided (TOW) missiles, Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems, High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs), and other munitions and equipment. The DoD noted that this is the Biden administration’s 67th tranche of equipment drawn from DoD inventories provided to Ukraine since August 2021. The Australian government announced that it will provide Ukraine with 49 M1A1 Abrams tanks as part a new aid package to Ukraine worth 245 million Australian dollars (about $164 million).[17]
US President Joe Biden announced a new military assistance package for Ukraine worth $425 million following a phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on October 16.[16] Biden stated that the package will include additional air defense capabilities, air-to-ground munitions, armored vehicles, and unspecified munitions and that the US will provide Ukraine will hundreds of air defense interceptors, dozens of tactical air defense systems, hundreds of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, and thousands of additional armored vehicles in the coming months. The Department of Defense (DoD) specified that the package will include additional munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS), RIM-7 missiles and support for air defense, Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), air-to-ground munitions, 155mm and 105mm artillery munitions, tube-launched, optically tracked, wire-guided (TOW) missiles, Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems, High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs), and other munitions and equipment. The DoD noted that this is the Biden administration’s 67th tranche of equipment drawn from DoD inventories provided to Ukraine since August 2021. The Australian government announced that it will provide Ukraine with 49 M1A1 Abrams tanks as part a new aid package to Ukraine worth 245 million Australian dollars (about $164 million).[17]
Things are going so good the Russians invited North Korea to come join in. This might change my calculus on whether or not the support is worthwhile if we can have North Korea start bleeding itself too....
I've heard Ukraine has already offered any N. Korean who defects asylum and South Korean citizenship.
When these N. Koreans, who have never fired a shot in anger, get into it with seasoned Ukraine fighters, they're going to be in for a rude awakening.
Since Russia is doing this, what's to keep Poland and other European countries from supplying troops on the Ukraine side?
I do, too, but I doubt they'd be of much intelligence value. They just do what they're told - responsibility isn't driven down in the ranks like it is in the US military.
I will be very interested to see how they react in actual combat.
