David Frum: Trump has turned GOP into party of Russia

[iu_a_att]

And more here from Republican Foreign Policy establishment. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fg-trump-foreign-policy-20160731-snap-story.html

"When he entered the race, the overarching concern was lack of experience and an inability or unwillingness to define what his policy would be,” said Elliot Abrams, a Middle East expert and military hawk who served as deputy national security adviser to George W. Bush.

“Now, particularly after the convention, he has defined it. And it would destroy the greatest single asset we have, which is our alliance structure,” he added.
.............
Some stalwarts — including Richard Armitage, a former high-ranking Pentagon and State Department official, and Brent Scowcroft, who counseled four Republican presidents — have thrown their support to Clinton.

“It’s the fact that our friends aren’t going to trust us and our enemies aren’t going to fear us” if Trump is elected, said Paul Wolfowitz, a deputy defense secretary under George W.
Bush.
............
Eliot A. Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush, said he helped draft the letter “so I can look my grandchildren in the eye 15 years from now.”

“It’s not just demagoguery,” Cohen said of Trump’s campaign rhetoric. “It’s an appeal for a certain kind of dictatorship.”

​

Really, this level of concern from such a cross-section of Republicans deserves reflection. Perhaps, if the approach Trump was suggesting had some actual merit...but I haven't seen it.

 

[UncleMark]

And more here from Republican Foreign Policy establishment. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fg-trump-foreign-policy-20160731-snap-story.html

"When he entered the race, the overarching concern was lack of experience and an inability or unwillingness to define what his policy would be,” said Elliot Abrams, a Middle East expert and military hawk who served as deputy national security adviser to George W. Bush.

“Now, particularly after the convention, he has defined it. And it would destroy the greatest single asset we have, which is our alliance structure,” he added.
.............
Some stalwarts — including Richard Armitage, a former high-ranking Pentagon and State Department official, and Brent Scowcroft, who counseled four Republican presidents — have thrown their support to Clinton.

“It’s the fact that our friends aren’t going to trust us and our enemies aren’t going to fear us” if Trump is elected, said Paul Wolfowitz, a deputy defense secretary under George W.
Bush.
............
Eliot A. Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush, said he helped draft the letter “so I can look my grandchildren in the eye 15 years from now.”

“It’s not just demagoguery,” Cohen said of Trump’s campaign rhetoric. “It’s an appeal for a certain kind of dictatorship.”

​

Really, this level of concern from such a cross-section of Republicans deserves reflection. Perhaps, if the approach Trump was suggesting had some actual merit...but I haven't seen it.

Those guys are a bunch of losers.

 

[Bill4411]

Those guys are a bunch of losers.

Yup, none of them are billionaires..so they are worthless.

 

[Ladoga]

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/
here is a detailed discussion of the case from factcheck.org

Who are the owners and funders of fact check?

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Who are the owners and funders of fact check?

Please, enlighten us.

 

[UncleMark]

Please, enlighten us.

Buncha Kommies

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[anon_mlxxvlbug9dpa]

If you believe all of this stuff, you have been brain washed by the media and left wing of the democratic party. Trump has not condoned Putin in any shape or form. He is obviously making fun of the Obama administration and Hillary when she was a weak Secretary of State. It has already been established that Hillary lies without batting an eye! Who knows how many e-mails were destroyed prior to saving a few in her private server.

Wow...what a debut.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/trump-russia/493298/
Posted here because I think Trump (and perhaps many of his followers) are not just inspired by Putin's approach to leveraging Russian nationalism but seems to actively seek alliance with Putin in order to take power in the United States. For me this raises so many alarm bells I can't believe that Trump continues to receive support from so many people let alone to be an actual contender for the Presidency. I don't typically agree with David Frum on much but his conclusion that the totality of Trump's positions on Russia are not just "troubling" they are "sinister" seems, if anything, too restrained.

According to Frum:

"Over the course of his candidacy, Donald Trump has revealed a remarkably consistent attitude toward Russia—a subject he seems to have thought about almost more than any other in this campaign.​

​

He has repeatedly and emphatically rejected criticism of Vladimir Putin’s methods of rule, including his murders of journalists.​

​

He has called NATO obsolete because it is too focused on the threat from Russia. At his own convention, he told The New York Times he would not defend small NATO countries like Estonia against a Russian attack.​

​

Trump’s convention team, largely indifferent to the work of the party-platform committee, acted decisively to strike pro-Ukraine language. Trump himself has urged decreased U.S. support for Ukraine as it resists Russian invasion.​

​

And at this most recent press conference, he indicated openness to recognizing Russia’s conquest and annexation of Crimea—and expressed opposition to maintaining sanctions against Russia. That statement would have topped the news on any day except one in which a candidate for United States president openly invited foreign espionage against his political opponent.​

​

For a candidate with few consistent views on anything, this adds up to a very clear picture. Joined with other evidence of Trump’s deep personal business obligations to people in the Putin ruling circle, and his campaign leadership’s long-standing involvement with the former pro-Putin authoritarian leader of Ukraine, the picture becomes even more troubling—even sinister."​

Didn't age well did it Nancy.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Didn't age well did it Nancy.

Appears to have aged remarkably well.

Trump still has googly eyes for putin

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Appears to have aged remarkably well.

Trump still has googly eyes for putin

I think those "googly" eyes you speak of are actually the recital of an armored Scope. ... Bang dead.

 

[Indianaftw]

Appears to have aged remarkably well.

Trump still has googly eyes for putin

You could not negotiate your way out of your bedroom. You don't get it do you. Hilarious.

Trump played Nato, Vlad, Xi and Kim like a fiddle. AND don't forget Kim, who is in bed with China now, and testing missiles again, with our fierce leader in office who talks and has relationships with all these guys, NOT. Dumbasses continue to think like dumbasses. Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Biden visiting Kim will happen when hell freezes over. Sorries, Trump met with all these circus creeps and let them know who was in charge!

 

[iuwclurker]

Not sure who bumped this but isn’t this a blast from the past?

 

[UncleMark]

Not sure who bumped this but isn’t this a blast from the past?

Hence the "aged well" reference.

 

[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

You could not negotiate your way out of your bedroom. You don't get it do you. Hilarious.

Trump played Nato, Vlad, Xi and Kim like a fiddle. AND don't forget Kim, who is in bed with China now, and testing missiles again, with our fierce leader in office who talks and has relationships with all these guys, NOT. Dumbasses continue to think like dumbasses. Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Biden visiting Kim will happen when hell freezes over. Sorries, Trump met with all these circus creeps and let them know who was in charge!

Sure he did lmao.

Idiot

 

[Indianaftw]

Sure he did lmao.

Idiot

Thanks for your vote blowhard you look stupid as ever

 

[i'vegotwinners]

three people in the world out of 8 billion, are the cause of 90% of the worlds political issues.

the other 10%, are caused by one religion.

seems like a good place to start in fixing the world's political ills, would be addressing the 90% thing.

once that's done, then fixing the other 10% becomes infinitely more doable, as one of the 3 people is also the main block to addressing the 10% thing.

 

[DANC]

Wow...what a debut.

He was prophetic

 

[DANC]

three people in the world out of 8 billion, are the cause of 90% of the worlds political issues.

the other 10%, are caused by one religion.

seems like a good place to start in fixing the world's political ills, would be addressing the 90% thing.

Is your super power being able to post with a banned ID and IP?

 

[zeke4ahs]

You could not negotiate your way out of your bedroom. You don't get it do you. Hilarious.

Trump played Nato, Vlad, Xi and Kim like a fiddle. AND don't forget Kim, who is in bed with China now, and testing missiles again, with our fierce leader in office who talks and has relationships with all these guys, NOT. Dumbasses continue to think like dumbasses. Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Biden visiting Kim will happen when hell freezes over. Sorries, Trump met with all these circus creeps and let them know who was in charge!

I haven’t put you on ignore just because you’re so humorous. No doubt. Trump was playing 3 D chess all along. The world leaders just couldn’t match his intellect. Well said.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

If you believe all of this stuff, you have been brain washed by the media and left wing of the democratic party. Trump has not condoned Putin in any shape or form. He is obviously making fun of the Obama administration and Hillary when she was a weak Secretary of State. It has already been established that Hillary lies without batting an eye! Who knows how many e-mails were destroyed prior to saving a few in her private server.

Hilary and Obama both belong to the Goldman Sachs-JP Morgan Chase-BlackRock-Lockheed Martin-Raytheon-General Dynamics far right wing of the DNC.

you obviously are the one who has been totally brainwashed by the media.

and all corporate media are far right, (cause of the whole "corp" thing, DUH), other than on some social issues, to keep everyone fighting 24/7/365 over the stuff Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, BlackRock, Raytheon, General Dynamics, and Lockheed Martin, don't give a hoot about.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Is your super power being able to post with a banned ID and IP?

no.

my super power, is probably why it is banned.

and i never said my ID was banned, just my IP.

that said, if you ever don't hear from IGW again, you can hopefully figure out why.

though perhaps Uncle Mark may not ever figure it out.

 

[Indianaftw]

I haven’t put you on ignore just because you’re so humorous. No doubt. Trump was playing 3 D chess all along. The world leaders just couldn’t match his intellect. Well said.

Look man the gad damned press was brutal. He met with a TON of leaders from around the planet, especially year one, and the handshakes are legendary. ALOT. I could have a cosmic or bailey post here, but not gonna go there, plus I'm watchin supercross tonight. Anyways the freakin guy went TO NORTH KOREA? Who the hell does that? Not afraid at all and thats the kind of guy I want running this joint.

Blast away Im sure this post will meet all kinds of mislead critics. And the people that say ohhh he was praising these people...HAhahaha you have no clue how to manipulate or run a deal. Thats how you get what you want. Been in sales my whole life and the Don is a master sales f*ck. He grinned at all those meetings for a reason. Most on this board will never understand that grin.

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Look man the gad damned press was brutal. He met with a TON of leaders from around the planet, especially year one, and the handshakes are legendary. ALOT. I could have a cosmic or bailey post here, but not gonna go there, plus I'm watchin supercross tonight. Anyways the freakin guy went TO NORTH KOREA? Who the hell does that? Not afraid at all and thats the kind of guy I want running this joint.

Blast away Im sure this post will meet all kinds of mislead critics. And the people that say ohhh he was praising these people...HAhahaha you have no clue how to manipulate or run a deal. Thats how you get what you want. Been in sales my whole life and the Don is a master sales f*ck. He grinned at all those meetings for a reason. Most on this board will never understand that grin.

much of what Trump said was spot on, and at least meeting with those dictators absolutely was the right thing to do.

that said, to say Trump was a flawed individual would be a gross understatement, as as an individual he is giant POS, dishonest as heck, corrupt as hell, which i think even his biggest supporters realize is the case, but don't care.

and a real danger to democracy, when he sees killing it as his only defense from his own corruption, and is cornered.

and reality is, his corruption makes him very vulnerable to extortion, all day every day, just as it does with Biden, just as with Hilary, thus none are suitable to lead anything, nor can they be their own men, even if they want to.

their blatant corruption, and Trump's overbearing personal debt, thus their always being slaves to extortion, will impact every decision they make, that the extortionists want impacted.

once the extortionists own you, you're owned, with no way out.

i think what his non actual white supremacists supporters are searching for, absolutely needs to be found.

both parties have totally abandoned and pissed all over the working class, and the woke have very unfairly branded many just to indict the guilty, which are only a fraction of who they sweep up with their giant sweeper.

i think his supporters saw in Trump what many of them probably saw in Bernie, except without what they didn't like about Bernie's views on immigration and abortions, and which to them thus disqualified Bernie for their support.

but while Bernie was a true believer and walked the walk, i don't think Trump ever embraced much of what he professed, and would spit in the face and walk all over his working class supporters in real life, and did so in real life..

and yes, The Don is a shameless sales fk.

he saw what Bernie supporters saw in Bernie, and the huge crowds Bernie was getting that dwarfed all the other Dems and Pubs crowds, and what the anti abortion single issue crowd wanted, (there's an easy vote get from a big constituency), and what the anti immigrant crowd wanted, and just took on that amalgamated form as his political persona, regardless of his actual beliefs and intentions, which were always all about Donald, and only Donald.

but he is a total and complete POS, and slave to extortion, and willing to burn down everything to save his ass if he needs to, thus unfit for public office. (with lots of company there).

and i think his supporters realize all that, but since he's all they got in their minds, they support him to the death anyway.

Trump's following felt they had no other option to latch onto absent Trump's total POS as a human being, total slave to extortion side, but they didn't see one anywhere, since they disqualified Bernie over abortion and immigration.

that said, i think they would have been better off compromising on Bernie despite his "disqualifiers" with them, than totally compromising on all they had to with Trump's world record breaking down sides.

they were desperate for someone as their political savior after total abandonment from both sides, and rightfully so in many respects.

unfortunately Trump recognized that from the start, and treated them as his marks, rather than someone he ever really backed as they hoped for, or would ever absent throwing them some crumbs to keep them hopeful.

as for his actual white supremacist followers, they are who they are, but don't constitute big enough numbers to win elections by themselves.

just as with George Wallace, and others who preceded and succeeded GW.

 

[Morrison]

much of what Trump said was spot on, and at least meeting with those dictators absolutely was the right thing to do.

that said, to say Trump was a flawed individual would be a gross understatement, as as an individual he is giant POS, dishonest as heck, corrupt as hell, which i think even his biggest supporters realize is the case, but don't care.

and a real danger to democracy, when he sees killing it as his only defense from his own corruption, and is cornered.

and reality is, his corruption makes him very vulnerable to extortion, all day every day, just as it does with Biden, just as with Hilary, thus none are suitable to lead anything, nor can they be their own men, even if they want to.

their blatant corruption, and Trump's overbearing personal debt, thus their always being slaves to extortion, will impact every decision they make, that the extortionists want impacted.

once the extortionists own you, you're owned, with no way out.

i think what his non actual white supremacists supporters are searching for, absolutely needs to be found.

both parties have totally abandoned and pissed all over the working class, and the woke have very unfairly branded many just to indict the guilty, which are only a fraction of who they sweep up with their giant sweeper.

i think his supporters saw in Trump what many of them probably saw in Bernie, except without what they didn't like about Bernie's views on immigration and abortions, and which to them thus disqualified Bernie for their support.

but while Bernie was a true believer and walked the walk, i don't think Trump ever embraced much of what he professed, and would spit in the face and walk all over his working class supporters in real life, and did so in real life..

and yes, The Don is a shameless sales fk.

he saw what Bernie supporters saw in Bernie, and the huge crowds Bernie was getting that dwarfed all the other Dems and Pubs crowds, and what the anti abortion single issue crowd wanted, (there's an easy vote get from a big constituency), and what the anti immigrant crowd wanted, and just took on that amalgamated form as his political persona, regardless of his actual beliefs and intentions, which were always all about Donald, and only Donald.

but he is a total and complete POS, and slave to extortion, and willing to burn down everything to save his ass if he needs to, thus unfit for public office. (with lots of company there).

and i think his supporters realize all that, but since he's all they got in their minds, they support him to the death anyway.

Trump's following felt they had no other option to latch onto absent Trump's total POS as a human being, total slave to extortion side, but they didn't see one anywhere, since they disqualified Bernie over abortion and immigration.

that said, i think they would have been better off compromising on Bernie despite his "disqualifiers" with them, than totally compromising on all they had to with Trump's world record breaking down sides.

they were desperate for someone as their political savior after total abandonment from both sides, and rightfully so in many respects.

unfortunately Trump recognized that from the start, and treated them as his marks, rather than someone he ever really backed as they hoped for, or would ever absent throwing them some crumbs to keep them hopeful.

as for his actual white supremacist followers, they are who they are, but don't constitute big enough numbers to win elections by themselves.

just as with George Wallace, and others who preceded and succeeded GW.

Beautifully written. Your story flows like a calm river into the sea.

 

[iuwclurker]

Beautifully written. Your story flows like a yellow river into the WC.

Fify

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

much of what Trump said was spot on, and at least meeting with those dictators absolutely was the right thing to do.

that said, to say Trump was a flawed individual would be a gross understatement, as as an individual he is giant POS, dishonest as heck, corrupt as hell, which i think even his biggest supporters realize is the case, but don't care.

and a real danger to democracy, when he sees killing it as his only defense from his own corruption, and is cornered.

and reality is, his corruption makes him very vulnerable to extortion, all day every day, just as it does with Biden, just as with Hilary, thus none are suitable to lead anything, nor can they be their own men, even if they want to.

their blatant corruption, and Trump's overbearing personal debt, thus their always being slaves to extortion, will impact every decision they make, that the extortionists want impacted.

once the extortionists own you, you're owned, with no way out.

i think what his non actual white supremacists supporters are searching for, absolutely needs to be found.

both parties have totally abandoned and pissed all over the working class, and the woke have very unfairly branded many just to indict the guilty, which are only a fraction of who they sweep up with their giant sweeper.

i think his supporters saw in Trump what many of them probably saw in Bernie, except without what they didn't like about Bernie's views on immigration and abortions, and which to them thus disqualified Bernie for their support.

but while Bernie was a true believer and walked the walk, i don't think Trump ever embraced much of what he professed, and would spit in the face and walk all over his working class supporters in real life, and did so in real life..

and yes, The Don is a shameless sales fk.

he saw what Bernie supporters saw in Bernie, and the huge crowds Bernie was getting that dwarfed all the other Dems and Pubs crowds, and what the anti abortion single issue crowd wanted, (there's an easy vote get from a big constituency), and what the anti immigrant crowd wanted, and just took on that amalgamated form as his political persona, regardless of his actual beliefs and intentions, which were always all about Donald, and only Donald.

but he is a total and complete POS, and slave to extortion, and willing to burn down everything to save his ass if he needs to, thus unfit for public office. (with lots of company there).

and i think his supporters realize all that, but since he's all they got in their minds, they support him to the death anyway.

Trump's following felt they had no other option to latch onto absent Trump's total POS as a human being, total slave to extortion side, but they didn't see one anywhere, since they disqualified Bernie over abortion and immigration.

that said, i think they would have been better off compromising on Bernie despite his "disqualifiers" with them, than totally compromising on all they had to with Trump's world record breaking down sides.

they were desperate for someone as their political savior after total abandonment from both sides, and rightfully so in many respects.

unfortunately Trump recognized that from the start, and treated them as his marks, rather than someone he ever really backed as they hoped for, or would ever absent throwing them some crumbs to keep them hopeful.

as for his actual white supremacist followers, they are who they are, but don't constitute big enough numbers to win elections by themselves.

just as with George Wallace, and others who preceded and succeeded GW.

Wow, a lot to unpack in this post. I'll pick one.

It seems to be well proven by fact. Once you achieve a certain level of success in politics, corruption is not only assumed but honored. Who was the last, totally clean, unquestionable integrity politician in the US federal government? ..... Has there been ONE in our life time? ONE?
The answer could be extremely problematic yet eye opening.

**edit to add... Coruption and suseseptable to extortion

 

[i'vegotwinners]

Beautifully written. Your story flows like a calm river into the sea.

Fify

ok, waiting for the other shoe to drop. bwg

 

[Indianaftw]

much of what Trump said was spot on, and at least meeting with those dictators absolutely was the right thing to do.

that said, to say Trump was a flawed individual would be a gross understatement, as as an individual he is giant POS, dishonest as heck, corrupt as hell, which i think even his biggest supporters realize is the case, but don't care.

and a real danger to democracy, when he sees killing it as his only defense from his own corruption, and is cornered.

and reality is, his corruption makes him very vulnerable to extortion, all day every day, just as it does with Biden, just as with Hilary, thus none are suitable to lead anything, nor can they be their own men, even if they want to.

their blatant corruption, and Trump's overbearing personal debt, thus their always being slaves to extortion, will impact every decision they make, that the extortionists want impacted.

once the extortionists own you, you're owned, with no way out.

i think what his non actual white supremacists supporters are searching for, absolutely needs to be found.

both parties have totally abandoned and pissed all over the working class, and the woke have very unfairly branded many just to indict the guilty, which are only a fraction of who they sweep up with their giant sweeper.

i think his supporters saw in Trump what many of them probably saw in Bernie, except without what they didn't like about Bernie's views on immigration and abortions, and which to them thus disqualified Bernie for their support.

but while Bernie was a true believer and walked the walk, i don't think Trump ever embraced much of what he professed, and would spit in the face and walk all over his working class supporters in real life, and did so in real life..

and yes, The Don is a shameless sales fk.

he saw what Bernie supporters saw in Bernie, and the huge crowds Bernie was getting that dwarfed all the other Dems and Pubs crowds, and what the anti abortion single issue crowd wanted, (there's an easy vote get from a big constituency), and what the anti immigrant crowd wanted, and just took on that amalgamated form as his political persona, regardless of his actual beliefs and intentions, which were always all about Donald, and only Donald.

but he is a total and complete POS, and slave to extortion, and willing to burn down everything to save his ass if he needs to, thus unfit for public office. (with lots of company there).

and i think his supporters realize all that, but since he's all they got in their minds, they support him to the death anyway.

Trump's following felt they had no other option to latch onto absent Trump's total POS as a human being, total slave to extortion side, but they didn't see one anywhere, since they disqualified Bernie over abortion and immigration.

that said, i think they would have been better off compromising on Bernie despite his "disqualifiers" with them, than totally compromising on all they had to with Trump's world record breaking down sides.

they were desperate for someone as their political savior after total abandonment from both sides, and rightfully so in many respects.

unfortunately Trump recognized that from the start, and treated them as his marks, rather than someone he ever really backed as they hoped for, or would ever absent throwing them some crumbs to keep them hopeful.

as for his actual white supremacist followers, they are who they are, but don't constitute big enough numbers to win elections by themselves.

just as with George Wallace, and others who preceded and succeeded GW.

You are lost. There's no help available for people like you. Unreal...

 

[Baller23Boogie]

You are lost. There's no help available for people like you. Unreal...

 

[Indianaftw]

View embedded media

 

[DANC]

View embedded media

He didn't extort or withhold anything.

It's a lie you continue to perpetuate.

 

[Baller23Boogie]

He didn't extort or withhold anything.

It's a lie you continue to perpetuate.

Trump acknowledged he made a call to Zelinsky. Trump also withheld aid from Ukraine. What's not to understand here.

 

[outside shooter]

Anyone notice that Ukrainians defend their Capitol, and Trumpers attack theirs?

 

[DANC]

Trump acknowledged he made a call to Zelinsky. Trump also withheld aid from Ukraine. What's not to understand here.

Acknowledging a call is not extorting anyone and the transcripts were released.

No aid was withheld.

Stop perpetuating lies.

 

[Baller23Boogie]

Acknowledging a call is not extorting anyone and the transcripts were released.

No aid was withheld.

Stop perpetuating lies.

Notes of the transcripts were released, not the full thing. There's a difference.

Aid was released because if he withheld it any longer, it would have been against the law.

 

[DANC]

Notes of the transcripts were released, not the full thing. There's a difference.

Aid was released because if he withheld it any longer, it would have been against the law.

Bullshit. The Democrats tried to impeach him for the parts that were released.

He withheld it for a few days to make sure it was going to the right places. Delaying is not withholding and doesn't hold a candle to Biden threatening to withhold a billion dollars in aid if a judge wasn't replaced.

 

[outside shooter]

I like presidents who DON'T hide in bunkers...

 

[Baller23Boogie]

Bullshit. The Democrats tried to impeach him for the parts that were released.

He withheld it for a few days to make sure it was going to the right places. Delaying is not withholding and doesn't hold a candle to Biden threatening to withhold a billion dollars in aid if a judge wasn't replaced.

Days? It was damn near two months and a deadline had to be extended because not all the aid paid out was gonna be spent in time.

Again, a FULL transcript was never released like promised, only notes.

Biden withholding funds to get a corrupt prosecutor, not judge, was backed by European Nations. Again, not up for debate.

You can't re-write history.

 

[DANC]

Days? It was damn near two months and a deadline had to be extended because not all the aid paid out was gonna be spent in time.

Again, a FULL transcript was never released like promised, only notes.

Biden withholding funds to get a corrupt prosecutor, not judge, was backed by European Nations. Again, not up for debate.

You can't re-write history.

You are making shit up out of thin air. Ukraine got the aid and guess what - they got plenty of military aid from Trump, instead of the blankets Obama sent.

You think the Congress didn't have the 'FULL' transcript? You are a sheep and easily led.

Just look up Hunter's history and tell me Biden wasn't covering for him and the Biden crime family. You're right - that's not up for debate.

 

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I like presidents who DON'T hide in bunkers...

No, you like presidential candidates who hide in the basements.