Russia-Ukraine war has begun

[Marvin the Martian]

Former NATO commander predicts how Putin's war in Ukraine will end

James Stavridis said on CNN on Saturday that Russia will end up with 20 percent of Ukraine.

www.newsweek.com

If both sides agree, there is nothing wrong with that deal. If that comes out, good. Ukraine must be protected so Russia cannot take another bite in five years. NATO membership would be helpful for that. I imagine our immediate end of sanctions would be part of it.

But with North Korea now supplying troops, I am even less sure Russia will accept only what they have now. Especially since it appears an offensive to retake Kursk is coming (cue the North Koreans).

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

If both sides agree, there is nothing wrong with that deal. If that comes out, good. Ukraine must be protected so Russia cannot take another bite in five years. NATO membership would be helpful for that. I imagine our immediate end of sanctions would be part of it.

But with North Korea now supplying troops, I am even less sure Russia will accept only what they have now. Especially since it appears an offensive to retake Kursk is coming (cue the North Koreans).

Then Trump instantaneously removes the hand cuff that are placed on UAF use of long range weapons. Obvious that the pain russia in experiencing today is not enough to bring them to the table. Thus, a doubling or tripling of the pain must happen the very first minute Trump and approve it. Negotiate from strength not hope.

 

[BradStevens]

If both sides agree, there is nothing wrong with that deal. If that comes out, good. Ukraine must be protected so Russia cannot take another bite in five years. NATO membership would be helpful for that. I imagine our immediate end of sanctions would be part of it.

But with North Korea now supplying troops, I am even less sure Russia will accept only what they have now. Especially since it appears an offensive to retake Kursk is coming (cue the North Koreans).

I'm skeptical that the North Korean army is going to be very competent.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I'm skeptical that the North Korean army is going to be very competent.

I agree, I suspect their job will be to catch bullets for the Russians. In wave assaults, sacrificial lambs serve a purpose.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Speaking of North Koreans as bullet catchers:

In Chaotic Kursk, Russian Vehicles Piled With Troops Are Rolling Right Up To Ukrainian Tanks—And Getting Blasted At Point-Blank Range

‘We are very lucky that they do a lot of banzai attacks,’ a Ukrainian drone operator noted.

www.forbes.com

 

[DANC]

Speaking of North Koreans as bullet catchers:

In Chaotic Kursk, Russian Vehicles Piled With Troops Are Rolling Right Up To Ukrainian Tanks—And Getting Blasted At Point-Blank Range

‘We are very lucky that they do a lot of banzai attacks,’ a Ukrainian drone operator noted.

www.forbes.com

Just insane

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Speaking of North Koreans as bullet catchers:

In Chaotic Kursk, Russian Vehicles Piled With Troops Are Rolling Right Up To Ukrainian Tanks—And Getting Blasted At Point-Blank Range

‘We are very lucky that they do a lot of banzai attacks,’ a Ukrainian drone operator noted.

www.forbes.com

1950 Orc casualties yesterday. I wanted to post, but needed to wait for "an official" to post the damage. I want to find a gif of a "Russian Paratrooper". I am envisioning a drunk guy, running while pulling the string on one of those confettee things.

1950 ... Slava Ukraine

 

[Marvin the Martian]

A Leopard tank dispatches several Russian vehicles.

A Ukrainian Leopard 2 Tank Met A Russian Armored Column Head-On—And Wrecked It

‘Effective work just blows the heads off the enemies,’ the Ukrainian 33rd Mechanized Brigade crowed.

www.forbes.com

 

[DANC]

A Leopard tank dispatches several Russian vehicles.

A Ukrainian Leopard 2 Tank Met A Russian Armored Column Head-On—And Wrecked It

‘Effective work just blows the heads off the enemies,’ the Ukrainian 33rd Mechanized Brigade crowed.

www.forbes.com

"Russian Pres. Vladimir Putin is determined to maximize Russian gains and minimize Ukrainian gains ahead of possible negotiations. The pace of Russian attacks has doubled or tripled in Kursk in recent days; there’s been an uptick in attacks around Kurakhove, too.

The Russians are going for broke—but the Ukrainians are, too. “Anyone who thinks Ukrainians will simply give up hasn’t been paying attention,” mused Tatarigami, the founder of the Ukrainian Frontelligence Insight analysis group."

Gonna be a lot of killin' between now and January.

I doubt the Ukrainians are going to agree to any kind of ceasefire and Putin is going to have to deal with energy prices going down. That's not good for him if he shoots his wad now.