Line that made me double take from that article.
That'll give conspiracy nuts a stiffy.
Russia-Ukraine war has begun
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Nah, no conspiracy - lawyers will represent anyone as long as they can pay.
Funny. I'm thinking to pickup some Russian stocks in the next few weeks.MOEX down 30% before trading was halted. Here's to hope the world sells.
Moscow Exchange - Новости и пресс-релизы Московской биржи
Актуальные финансовые новости на сайте Московской бирже. Самая актуальная информация для инвесторов и акционеров.www.moex.com
I think Bitcoin has lost the theory of being a hedge. The danger with sanctions and cutting them off from swift is that eventually Russia, China, Iran, etc setup their own networks that do not rely on SWIFT or the USD. And slowly our reserve status is irrelevant.
Anyone who is not disgusted by the behavior of Trump, Carlson, that Vance guy in Ohio needs their head examined. It's disgusting and appallingly anti-American.
So I've read that the ruble itself is severely undervalued and then my thought is the west can't afford not to have access to Russian energy. Democracies tolerance of suffering is a lot less than Russia's. Maybe wait a few more weeks for more market hemorrhage.
I was expecting this invasion for weeks. Too bad I didn't have the guts to buy some puts. My wife is too risk averse and my marriage is more important than my bets
Interesting take. I’m thinking mostly of its intellectual capacity. I don’t think they’re coming anywhere close to tapping into it. Their main use seems to be for military advancement. Big deal. There’s nothing wrong with that but why don’t they make a bigger move into all variations on computer and information technology? Their main focus is hacking. Again, big deal. It’s just stupid. Their geniuses can compare with anyone in the world but they get suppressed. That’s not geographical.
What did I tell you...
This is exactly what I discussed yesterday. I would have done this a week ago and had men armed in ambush positions. E.g along highway Russian tanks were rolling up. Make Russia feel some pain and blood from the start and send bodies home.
Damn. You really did sleep through history class.
Which ocean is in between Ukraine and Russia? And what other countries are playing the role of France?
All I know is this bullshit annexed 10k from my retirement account this week and I was expecting another thousands loss today earlier when it was down 800 pts.
Remarkably, it closed up after that, so the bleeding stopped, but I think they need to take a very hard line with sanction threats. I have a degree in poli-sci, and it would generally be worth discussing at that level, but mostly, I just want my f'n money back over this crap.
Putin is bluffing with his veiled threats of nuclear options, does he really think our nukes don't work and that his stock might work as well as throwing Yugo's at us? It's bluffing, I'm not sure what the real motivation is, piss the rest of the world off and try to raise gas prices for another week, cash grab? Sanctions from major customers need to be harsh so he doesn't try this again.
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Didn't figure you to be a commie supporter, but it's not much of a surprise
He also is rumored to own at least a couple of apartments in Trump Tower but doubtful they are shown under his real name. He is probably the closest thing there is in the world to Keyser Söze: The Usual Suspects.
Got it.
Acknowledging the existence of the Atlantic Ocean, and its ability to impede a war by 1770's England against 1770's America, and acknowledging the assistance of France in said war, = "commie"
GOOD to know.
The west but how does that impact what is happening. Russia needs to sell to get cash, China is buying. No where in the equation is there Chinese selling. They will sell to the west as they always do
China will negotiate deals advantageous to China. They will do Russia no favors. They have been buying Iranian oil for peanuts.
Wild swings in all the markets today especially in the grain market. I sold some corn this morning at $7.11/bushel and it finished the day at $6.83 and then sold some corn and soybean futures for next years harvest that were up big time in the morning and then fell a lot later in the day, so for a switch I did very well with my grain marketing activities.So I've read that the ruble itself is severely undervalued and then my thought is the west can't afford not to have access to Russian energy. Democracies tolerance of suffering is a lot less than Russia's. Maybe wait a few more weeks for more market hemorrhage.
I was expecting this invasion for weeks. Too bad I didn't have the guts to buy some puts. My wife is too risk averse and my marriage is more important than my bets
Tomorrow probably will make me regret mentioning my good day. The grain markets used to be the cyrpto currencies of the old days because of the wild swings in price-and the fact you can sell on margins. Supposedly Hillary Clinton made $100,000.00 on a 5k cattle future back when Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas.
Right, and they will buy Russian wheat and oil and whatever else on the cheap. But it is still money coming into Russia.
I don't think Russia needs the cash. At least not immediately. Their reserves are quite strong.
I agree, I am pointing out sanctions are not going to work quickly. They have money and some income.
The reality is we have no good options. Arm Ukraine to the teeth and hope for the best. I would have applied the strictest sanctions immediately and done more pre-invasion with the hopes of preventing one. I see no use in further delaying sanctions. What else is left to deter?
Speaking of Russian and Chinese relation ships, I was reminded of the following.
en.m.wikipedia.org
China will act in its own interests which probably includes taking advantage of Russia’s troubles under the economic sanctions. That may look like helping Russia but China will never forget Manchuria.
Russian invasion of Manchuria - Wikipedia
China will act in its own interests which probably includes taking advantage of Russia’s troubles under the economic sanctions. That may look like helping Russia but China will never forget Manchuria.
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Could very easily be psy ops to get Ukrainians to rally and enlist. Without vetted sources and/or video it’s hard to believe Russian airborne is being repelled. Unless they are much worse soldiers than I thought they’d be.
I hope this war doesn’t create A shortage of strippers and pole dancers!
Some of these Ukrainian women are 🔥!!!
I'm no foreign policy wonk but telling a bunch of people who are fighting for their lives and hiding in subways to "give it a month and see how things look" doesn't sound much like a measured statesman
I don't know if Putin plans on taking Ukraine. I think they want to sneak some covert teams in to assassinate the prez and destroy as much military as they can and get out with the eastern 1/3. Kiev is huge, trying to take it might be very costly.
But Russia's GDP is that of Italy. Every day Ukraine holds out costs Russia a lot of cash. They have reserves. But if we leave sanctions on, for years, those reserves will be hard to replace that equipment. It is the same problem we have, fire a $100,000 missile to blow up a shack becomes an economic problem.
Kiev is about the size of LA, taking and holding that will require a lot.
“wait it out” sounds harsh but that’s the reality if you live in a borderland country that can’t defend itself. Resist and wait for help or give up and lose it all anyway. Kinda the message sent to Western Europe during WW2. Chilling af
I get the purpose. Makes sense. I just meant the messaging to those who are desperate hoping for immediate help
13 Ukrainian soldiers died on a 40 acre island/rock in the Black Sea after telling a Russian warship to go **** themselves when asked to surrender.
Why would they be dug in on a 40 acre island in the first place? Makes little sense to me.
Why would they be dug in on a 40 acre island in the first place? Makes little sense to me.
it depends on the will of the USG. If we return to drilling we become energy independent and will be able to sell the surplus to European countries at a lower rate than Russia, thereby deprivig Putin of the money he needs to expand Russian living space.
As of now, the EU countries need Russia energy resources. Putin has found a way to economically weaken and fragment NATO.
Reportedly only 30-60k Russian soldiers in initial invasion. Doesn't make sense. I agree they are going for a quick decapitation of Kiev. But 30-60k troops is not nearly enough to overwhelm Ukraine.
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If that’s true - and that a big IF - that bodes well for Ukraine. If guys are basically ready to sacrifice themselves out of national pride then Russia has very little chance.
