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Roster Construction 2019 - 2021

What the hell is wrong with you?

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Did you ever think in assessing Fitzner that Archie envisioned him and what he could bring to the team with most of those guys not being hampered/lost to injury?

Let’s make this simple: say Romeo doesn’t injure his thumb and Jerome is able to play. Both of those guys would have given us more of a threat from the perimeter - which impacts how the defense plays guys like Fitzner. Instead of getting confidence in what he was doing, he has to adjust to being THE outside threat and the corresponding defense.

Again, Archie may have just poorly evaluated him. But for you to supposedly be a coach and not understand this is beyond me.
i didn't think you were a real tasmanian devil. i thought you just made that up. but now i can totally see you angrily, maniacally spinning out of control. i've changed my mind
 
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Considering the year before he came to IU Fitzner had 40% 3PT, that doesn't sound like a dodgy assumption. On the other hand, Nick Zeisloft had a 35.5% 3PT his last year at Illinois State, which had many of us scratching our heads.
but fitzner for his soph and junior years combined averaged only one made 3 pointer a game. only .7 per game his jr year. not the answer.
 
If you look at his numbers at St. Mary's there was (IMHO) every reason for Archie to believe Fitzner could contribute as a complimentary piece. I can't see any scenario where Archie would have brought Fitzner in thinking he'd have to be a major contributor.
"complementary", not "complimentary". don't look now but your iq is showing
 
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What the hell is wrong with you?

You said this:



Did you ever think in assessing Fitzner that Archie envisioned him and what he could bring to the team with most of those guys not being hampered/lost to injury?

Let’s make this simple: say Romeo doesn’t injure his thumb and Jerome is able to play. Both of those guys would have given us more of a threat from the perimeter - which impacts how the defense plays guys like Fitzner. Instead of getting confidence in what he was doing, he has to adjust to being THE outside threat and the corresponding defense.

Again, Archie may have just poorly evaluated him. But for you to supposedly be a coach and not understand this is beyond me.
Do you think most teams go all year without injuries? Do you really live in that enclosed of a bubble?
 
Harris would be looking at major minutes as a freshman, so that's one advantage IU would have over North Carolina. Our guard rotation is looking relatively weak for 2019-20 (Phinisee, Durham, Green and Franklin), so Harris would certainly step right in to a rotation spot right off the bat.
I do not know these guys and my comment is not really about any of THEM. But, I wonder what CAM's answer is when he's talking to a kid he knows is interested in UNC and then get asked, "Are you gonna make me go to real classes?"
BTW, NCAA: Thanks for leaving UNC this recruiting advantage and THIS is why you screwed up by not addressing UNC's academics fraud crisis ...
 
I do not know these guys and my comment is not really about any of THEM. But, I wonder what CAM's answer is when he's talking to a kid he knows is interested in UNC and then get asked, "Are you gonna make me go to real classes?"
BTW, NCAA: Thanks for leaving UNC this recruiting advantage and THIS is why you screwed up by not addressing UNC's academics fraud crisis ...
The NCAA isn't the only ones that turned a blind eye to that. UNC is still ranked as one of the best public universities in the nation.

This site ranks did a ranking with the WSJ and placed UNC at #4 among public universities, #37 overall.
https://www.timeshighereducation.co...sities/best-public-universities-united-states
https://www.timeshighereducation.co...gth/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats
 
Do you think most teams go all year without injuries? Do you really live in that enclosed of a bubble?
As I asked others: Tell us the team with a similar roster makeup that IU had this past season that had the plethora of injuries they had AND still made the NCAA?

Never have I said teams don't have to deal with injuries. But have your best scoring option play with a torn ligament in the shooting hand 3/4ths of the year ALONG WITH losing a player like Hunter?

Pony up, big boy - who is this team that made the tournament with a young roster riddled by injuries. Still waiting on anyone else to provide said team, so I'm not going anywhere . . . . who's the team, CDK?
 
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As I asked others: Tell us the team with a similar roster makeup that IU had this past season that had the plethora of injuries they had AND still made the NCAA?

Never have I said teams don't have to deal with injuries. But have your best scoring option play with a torn ligament in the shooting hand 3/4ths of the year ALONG WITH losing a player like Hunter?

Pony up, big boy - who is this team that made the tournament with a young roster riddled by injuries. Still waiting on anyone else to provide said team, so I'm not going anywhere . . . . who's the team, CDK?
https://www.rotowire.com/cbasketball/injury-report.php

Cant imagine this is accurate as teams don’t release every injury issue and cant to protect the student privacy...but there are clearly a ton of injuries in college sports
 
https://www.rotowire.com/cbasketball/injury-report.php

Cant imagine this is accurate as teams don’t release every injury issue and cant to protect the student privacy...but there are clearly a ton of injuries in college sports

That list is rather useless as it's a snapshot at the end of the season. It only lists Hunter as out and Langford as a game-time decision. Tas' point isn't about the last game of the year... but throughout the entire season.
 
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Wow, you got me there coach . . .

When you have to resort to grammatical errors / spelling, you know you're treading water. Congrats.

BTW - IF you're gonna be specific, it's IQ (CAPS), not iq.;) But I'm sure it was intentional . . .:rolleyes:
hey, if you're going to make up a bunch of garbage i never said....well, there ya go
 
https://www.rotowire.com/cbasketball/injury-report.php

Cant imagine this is accurate as teams don’t release every injury issue and cant to protect the student privacy...but there are clearly a ton of injuries in college sports
At least you made somewhat of an attempt.

Teams might not release every injury - but issues like Romeo dealt with come out after a season is done.

So, again, what team with a similar roster makeup (experience & talent-wise) has the injuries IU had this season past and made the NCAA tournament?
 
That list is rather useless as it's a snapshot at the end of the season. It only lists Hunter as out and Langford as a game-time decision. Tas' point isn't about the last game of the year... but throughout the entire season.
Exactly.

I want to see a team with a comparable roster to 2018-19 Indiana. In terms of experience, talent & injuries sustained. Surely there is at least one - with how so many here saying “teams have to deal with injuries”.

Or maybe, just maybe, teams didn’t have that extent of injuries . . .
 
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As I asked others: Tell us the team with a similar roster makeup that IU had this past season that had the plethora of injuries they had AND still made the NCAA?

Never have I said teams don't have to deal with injuries. But have your best scoring option play with a torn ligament in the shooting hand 3/4ths of the year ALONG WITH losing a player like Hunter?

Pony up, big boy - who is this team that made the tournament with a young roster riddled by injuries. Still waiting on anyone else to provide said team, so I'm not going anywhere . . . . who's the team, CDK?
Michigan State lost Langford (15 ppg) for the season, Ward and Ahrens for some time as well. Our injuries pale in comparison.

Texas Tech had very little recruiting talent but a great coach.

There’s simply no rational excuse for last year’s team to miss the damn tournament. None.
 
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At least you made somewhat of an attempt.

Teams might not release every injury - but issues like Romeo dealt with come out after a season is done.

So, again, what team with a similar roster makeup (experience & talent-wise) has the injuries IU had this season past and made the NCAA tournament?
Michigan State had more. And they made the Final Four.

Checkmate.
 
Exactly.

I want to see a team with a comparable roster to 2018-19 Indiana. In terms of experience, talent & injuries sustained. Surely there is at least one - with how so many here saying “teams have to deal with injuries”.

Or maybe, just maybe, teams didn’t have that extent of injuries . . .
Yeah - but it also lists the same timeframe for Indiana - see how many injuries there are that were reported - imagine the entire season...

Like I said - every team deals w injuries.
 
Yeah - but it also lists the same timeframe for Indiana - see how many injuries there are that were reported - imagine the entire season...

Like I said - every team deals w injuries.
Ok - who was a team from this past season (or any year) that had a comparable roster to Indiana with the same injury situation they had? Please indicate who the team(s) are.
 
So Indiana had a comparable roster in both years of experience AND talent-wise? Right?
Comparing Indiana to Michigan State is a fool’s errand. I shouldn’t have to explain why, but I will. The Spartans have a Hall of Fame coach who has been there for more than 20 years and a roster filled with top 100 players.
 
Comparing Indiana to Michigan State is a fool’s errand. I shouldn’t have to explain why, but I will. The Spartans have a Hall of Fame coach who has been there for more than 20 years and a roster filled with top 100 players.
Who is doing that? We are a second tier big ten nit team.
 
Comparing Indiana to Michigan State is a fool’s errand. I shouldn’t have to explain why, but I will. The Spartans have a Hall of Fame coach who has been there for more than 20 years and a roster filled with top 100 players.
IU has the players. Just not the coach.
 
So Indiana had a comparable roster in both years of experience AND talent-wise? Right?

No, but they (rape u) had a similar amount of injuries and still met expectations (I’d argue exceeded them). 4 of our 5 starters didn’t missed a game and the 5th starter missed a total of 3 games. We should have still won 20+ games during the regular season.
 
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No, but they (rape u) had a similar amount of injuries and still met expectations (I’d argue exceeded them). 4 of our 5 starters didn’t missed a game and the 5th starter missed a total of 3 games. We should have still won 20+ games during the regular season.
What? Davis was projected as a starter by mid-season. Phin was a starter for most of the season. McRoberts was considered a season opening starter by CAM. Green was a starter often.

I'll agree that MSU exceeded expectations after Langford went down. But the rest of your post? Eh... no.
 
So Indiana had a comparable roster in both years of experience AND talent-wise? Right?
No amount of excuse making by you or anyone else can justify losing 12 of 13 in January and February. That was poor coaching and poor leadership. Take your medicine for not knowing what you were talking about. You look stupid trying to make lame excuses now. It’s why everyone here keeps laughing at you.
 
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What? Davis was projected as a starter by mid-season. Phin was a starter for most of the season. McRoberts was considered a season opening starter by CAM. Green was a starter often.

I'll agree that MSU exceeded expectations after Langford went down. But the rest of your post? Eh... no.

I was referring to the 5 guys who started the most games and who were also the 5 guys who started the games at the end of the regular season when everyone was available. I'm not sure why you would take issue with that statement.
 
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We can talk about replacing Archie all day.


But the fact is....who would want this job at this point?
 
They made the Final Four and won the Big Ten. We lost 12 of 13 and missed the tournament.

And yes, we had similar talent and experience.

Prove it with facts, numbers and articles. Of course I know you won't because you NEVER back up what you spew.
 
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