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All they know - actually know - is we lost too many games last year. The rest is just rationalized petty vindictiveness disguised as reasoning....ie butthurt and emotional. Notice something...the chronic complainers know nothing about the game beyond that of an average fan . Dunning Kruger in full effect.

Look at the big brain on Miles. I always thought the objective was to win games. I really think you are on to something;)
 
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There is so much failure in this post. So few words, so much wrong. Isn't it about time for you to adopt a new username, ordfan? This one is not fooling anyone. Everyone knows it's you.
I’m not the one who pulled a ridiculous post about Smithson and Donewald out of my ass and then got destroyed as a result. You look like a fool and you’re lashing out, so I’ll try not to upset you too much. And I have no flipping clue who ordfan is, but I do love that all three of you keep coming back to that when you get blown up.
 
I’m not the one who pulled a ridiculous post about Smithson and Donewald out of my ass and then got destroyed as a result. You look like a fool and you’re lashing out, so I’ll try not to upset you too much. And I have no flipping clue who ordfan is, but I do love that all three of you keep coming back to that when you get blown up.

This board, at you...

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This board, at you...

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You tried to talk about coaches you knew nothing about and then you didn’t even know where the school was located. And then you tried to change the subject when it was clear you were FOS. The more you prolong this, the dumber you look (and that’s saying something). You lost. No need to keep calling attention to that fact.
 
Then there are idiots like you who pretend the last two years never happened, who endlessly hype every player beyond any reasonable set of expectations, who make excuse after excuse for everything that doesn’t turn out as you’ve predicted, and criticize everyone who actually cares enough about the IU program that they want it to be elite again. Oh, and you own nothing. Ever. Nobody says Archie can’t build his program. He’ll get at least five years to do it. But you guys have settled for and celebrated mediocrity for a long time, and nobody takes you seriously as a result.

I think you're on the wrong guy because based on what I've seen @Bulk VanderHuge has never posted an opinion on any topic. You're right that it's hard to take him serious but it isn't because of the reasons you listed. It's because all he does is post gifs and tries to put people down.
 
How about John Groce and the hundreds of coaches around the country who didn’t work out?

But keep telling yourself this is the 1 out of 500 that does.

Bad logic. You fire a guy BEFORE giving him a chance because schools all around the country fire guys AFTER giving them a chance. Lol. You are dumb as shit.
 
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I agree, great for 1 season, but Stallings was more like a Mike Davis run to the title game but was not The Guy long term.
Mike Davis run to the title game is equivalent to the actual title? I thought you had the dumb belief that there was only 1 successful team per year? If that's the case then how can you make the comparison you just did?
 
I think you're on the wrong guy because based on what I've seen @Bulk VanderHuge has never posted an opinion on any topic. You're right that it's hard to take him serious but it isn't because of the reasons you listed. It's because all he does is post gifs and tries to put people down.
You make an excellent point, though he awkwardly did try to advance an opinion here, though he missed so badly that it was cringe-worthy. Lesson learned.
 
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Who was ordfan? I looked him up and he’s mentioned, but it says he signed up in 2001 with 0 posts.

Ordfan was the first in the long troll lineage currently going by Prankster Mary. Likely banned 45 times over the past four years for trolling, intentionally trashing threads, racist and homophobic posts, and simply boorish behavior. Was banned three times in one thread. He is a non-grad, non-IU fan that lives to ruin a place where he was not accepted.

The reason I even mention him is that he chased off dozens of good posters by trashing thread after thread. At one point under Peegs flag, this was an awesome place to talk serious hoops and football combined with off topic stuff. Clearly the mods are taking the summer off so we will have to deal with him at least until Football ramps up when hopefully they take out the trash.
 
Ordfan was the first in the long troll lineage currently going by Prankster Mary. Likely banned 45 times over the past four years for trolling, intentionally trashing threads, racist and homophobic posts, and simply boorish behavior. Was banned three times in one thread. He is a non-grad, non-IU fan that lives to ruin a place where he was not accepted.

The reason I even mention him is that he chased off dozens of good posters by trashing thread after thread. At one point under Peegs flag, this was an awesome place to talk serious hoops and football combined with off topic stuff. Clearly the mods are taking the summer off so we will have to deal with him at least until Football ramps up when hopefully they take out the trash.

How about you put him on ignore and move on?
 
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288 with no end in sight unless he passes out.
You really can’t help yourself, can you? Getting in empty heads so easily usually isn’t my thing, but I may need to have some fun with this. It’s a shame you can bring yourself to put me on ignore, isn’t it? If you had any sense, you would’ve already done that, though.
 
You really can’t help yourself, can you? Getting in empty heads so easily usually isn’t my thing, but I may need to have some fun with this. It’s a shame you can bring yourself to put me on ignore, isn’t it? If you had any sense, you would’ve already done that, though.

289 (actually this is the second count, likely 500 or more) since you SWORE you would never ever ever reply to another of my posts
 
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289 (actually this is the second count, likely 500 or more) since you SWORE you would never ever ever reply to another of my posts
Never swore any such thing, but please link that and prove me wrong. This is about your narcissism. The rest of us are just watching and laughing.
 
Should UK have given Gillespie “a chance” instead of hiring Calipari?

Back again to your one example of a two-year coach...who also refused to sign a contract, got a dwi, and was generally regarded as an asshole by all involved. Fitting you’d look past that last part...

There are a number of coaches I’d trade Archie for at this moment in time but this isn’t like trading baseball players. Lol. There is higher value in letting a 40-year old coach who won a lot at his last job do his thing for a few years. That’s what good programs are doing...well, except UK that one time...with an alcoholic coach who refused to sign a contract.........
 
Back again to your one example of a two-year coach...who also refused to sign a contract, got a dwi, and was generally regarded as an asshole by all involved. Fitting you’d look past that last part...

There are a number of coaches I’d trade Archie for at this moment in time but this isn’t like trading baseball players. Lol. There is higher value in letting a 40-year old coach who won a lot at his last job do his thing for a few years. That’s what good programs are doing...well, except UK that one time...with an alcoholic coach who refused to sign a contract.........
Like we did with Crean?

Should UNC have kept Doherty and passed on Roy?

If only IL would’ve been more patient with Groce they’d be winning titles right now.
 
Should UK have given Gillespie “a chance” instead of hiring Calipari?
Bcg is a bad example. Not only was he a bad recruiter, he was a bad person in which he treated players. He was an awful hire from day one. The ad saw that and got it right. Glass needs to go.
 
Like we did with Crean?

Should UNC have kept Doherty and passed on Roy?

If only IL would’ve been more patient with Groce they’d be winning titles right now.

Crean got extra years because of the perceived mess but that is another story that we may actually have some common ground on— as much as that pains me to say it. but you know why he got so long.

Doherty won 8 games his 2nd year. Lol.

So now you’ve given two examples - one being awfully shaky — in the history of basketball. I can tell I’m dealing with a real historian. Yikes. There were 8 to 10 examples of why a reasonable amount of patience pays off in this year’s sweet 16 alone....
 
Crean got extra years because of the perceived mess but that is another story that we may actually have some common ground on— as much as that pains me to say it — but you know that.

Doherty won 8 games his 2nd year. Lol.

So now you’ve given two examples - one being awfully shaky — in the history of basketball. I can tell I’m dealing with a real historian. Yikes. There were 8 to 10 examples of why patience pays off in this year’s sweet 16 alone....
no there weren’t - there were 8 guys who made substantial gains from year 1 to year 2...

Archie has just maintained Creans worst 2 seasons in his final 6 years...
 
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Crean got extra years because of the perceived mess but that is another story that we may actually have some common ground on— as much as that pains me to say it. but you know why he got so long.

Doherty won 8 games his 2nd year. Lol.

So now you’ve given two examples - one being awfully shaky — in the history of basketball. I can tell I’m dealing with a real historian. Yikes. There were 8 to 10 examples of why a reasonable amount of patience pays off in this year’s sweet 16 alone....
The earlier we fire a bad coach the quicker we can hire another candidate. So really anyone who has had success in their first 2-3 years is evidence for my side because we’d give another shot vs letting Archie hang around for 5 years.
 
no there weren’t - there were 8 guys who made substantial gains from year 1 to year 2...

Archie has just maintained Creans worst 2 seasons in his final 6 years...

Nope. Another case where you think up is down, black is white. F****** psycho shit, man. Wow.

PS drop the Creans two-worst-in-last-six argument. It’s dumb. Lots of really good coaches wouldn’t meet that.

I’m sorry that actual data exists to prove you’re a dumb ass. Between the voices in your head and actual coaching records, I’m going to have to lean towards actual data. Lol
 
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Nope. Another case where you think up is down, black is white. F****** psycho shit, man. Wow.

PS drop the Creans two-worst-in-last-six argument. It’s dumb. Lots of really good coaches wouldn’t meet that.

I’m sorry that actual data exists to prove you’re a dumb ass. Between the voices in your head and actual coaching records, I’m going to have to lean towards actual data. Lol
You for real? You dismiss Archie’s two year record, being equal to the worst 2 years of Creans final 6...in which Crean faced OG, Morgan, Blackmon, Hartman all being injuredin one of those...

How’d your Dairy Queen interview go today? I assume you rode your bicycle, as you never sent the Uber request I offered.
 
The earlier we fire a bad coach the quicker we can hire another candidate. So really anyone who has had success in their first 2-3 years is evidence for my side because we’d give another shot vs letting Archie hang around for 5 years.

If Archie proves to A) be a bad coach and B) gets 5 years, then you will have been right. Soooo, you’ve doubled down on being one of the top douches on the board based on two wildly speculative guesses...dumb
 
You for real? You dismiss Archie’s two year record, being equal to the worst 2 years of Creans final 6...in which Crean faced OG, Morgan, Blackmon, Hartman all being injuredin one of those...

How’d your Dairy Queen interview go today? I assume you rode your bicycle, as you never sent the Uber request I offered.

Killer logic. You woulda fired a lot of good coaches with those standards. Pretty dumb.
 
If Archie proves to A) be a bad coach and B) gets 5 years, then you will have been right. Soooo, you’ve doubled down on being one of the top douches on the board based for two wildly speculative guesses...dumb
Well - hes proving to be 1 (A) of 2 so far...

In game and offensive coaching has been enough to make the call on A
 
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