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Reality check for the anti-Beard folks…

It’s depressing watching the list shrink down to the likes of Brownell. So uninspiring.
It's a bunch of know-nothings who have shrunk this mythical list. Dolson has this shit locked up like Fort Knox, so I doubt the Goodmans of the world know anything more than we do.

It wouldn't at all surprise me if 75% of the guys mentioned over and over and over were never on SD's radar ... but we'll never know that either.
 
I always have felt hitting a girl is about as low as you can go. However, I have seen girls that should be knocked out in situations. You have read more about this than I have but no idea how nuts she was. Could be all him for sure.

I doubt he will ever do this again tho. More likely to break a tv with a bat in front of her next time.

Y ou sound like a victim rationalizing why you should go back again.
 
I said weeks ago IU would hire somebody like bronwell and got laughed at. Starting to look like it could really happen though. Its just such an IU move to hire a guy like that while passing on beard.
 
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I said weeks ago IU would hire somebody like bronwell and got laughed at. Starting to look like it could really happen though. Its just such an IU move to hire a guy like that while passing on beard.
This isn't 2017 or 2021 ... the past means nothing. Different circumstances. This is Dolson's first real basketball HC hire, and I doubt he brings in a "meh" coach.

I'd bet my spleen it won't be Brownell. Hell, I'd bet a less important internal organ that he was never seriously considered ... if at all. BB's last two solid seasons can't cloak a pedestrian career.
 
This isn't 2017 or 2021 ... the past means nothing. Different circumstances. This is Dolson's first real basketball HC hire, and I doubt he brings in a "meh" coach.

I'd bet my spleen it won't be Brownell. Hell, I'd bet a less important internal organ that he was never seriously considered ... if at all. BB's last two solid seasons can't cloak a pedestrian career.
He would be an awful hire imo. Plus somebody said he has a playbook that takes like three years to learn. Sounds like Archie's packline!
 
This isn't 2017 or 2021 ... the past means nothing. Different circumstances. This is Dolson's first real basketball HC hire, and I doubt he brings in a "meh" coach.

I'd bet my spleen it won't be Brownell. Hell, I'd bet a less important internal organ that he was never seriously considered ... if at all. BB's last two solid seasons can't cloak a pedestrian career.
I would certainly hope its not bronwell. All kinds of love for Mccollum the last few days but he may not even want the job. Its a massive step up from Drake and comes with all kinds of pressure. Going to take a certain kind of coach to succeed here.
 
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Try to imagine the worst case with McCollum. He's clearly a competent college coach, which Woodson was not. He's potentially a fantastic college coach but has not proven it yet at the P4 level. You could have probably made the same case for Archie but McCollum's achievements where he's been have been at another level than what Archie did. I think it's a risk worth taking, if he's interested. Support him if he wants help with recruiting and NIL and let the guy coach.
 
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Try to imagine the worst case with McCollum. He's clearly a competent college coach, which Woodson was not. He's potentially a fantastic college coach but has not proven it yet at the P4 level. You could have probably made the same case for Archie but McCollum's achievements where he's been have been at another level than what Archie did. I think it's a risk worth taking, if he's interested. Support him if he wants help with recruiting and NIL and let the guy coach.
The more I watch Drake the easier it is for me to like him. I really think he’s coaching to his teams strengths. I’m starting to get the feeling he would change the pace with better athletes and shooters. His team plays the long game on offense. They work you to death(like UConn).
 
Try to imagine the worst case with McCollum. He's clearly a competent college coach, which Woodson was not. He's potentially a fantastic college coach but has not proven it yet at the P4 level. You could have probably made the same case for Archie but McCollum's achievements where he's been have been at another level than what Archie did. I think it's a risk worth taking, if he's interested. Support him if he wants help with recruiting and NIL and let the guy coach.
You assume he even wants the job. Its going to take a big personality for this job he may not even want to leave Drake yet its only been one season so far. Sure its possible she succeeds here but he could also flop. Look at Wes Miller he was the hottest flavor of the month around four years ago. He has not even made the tourney once.

2021–22Cincinnati18–157–118th
2022–23Cincinnati23–1311–74thNIT Quarterfinals
2023–24Cincinnati22–157–11T–11thNIT Quarterfinals
2024–25Cincinnati17–147–13T–12th
 
You assume he even wants the job. Its going to take a big personality for this job he may not even want to leave Drake yet its only been one season so far. Sure its possible she succeeds here but he could also flop. Look at Wes Miller he was the hottest flavor of the month around four years ago. He has not even made the tourney once.

2021–22Cincinnati18–157–118th
2022–23Cincinnati23–1311–74thNIT Quarterfinals
2023–24Cincinnati22–157–11T–11thNIT Quarterfinals
2024–25Cincinnati17–147–13T–12th
I did say "if he's interested" which you're right, he might not be.

Also I didn't say but I think important to add that one other big difference at this level will be the management of player egos. You don't have that much at D2 or low D1 schools from what I've seen, those guys are mostly just glad to have somehwere to play while they go to school, they are not eyeing the NBA as their main objective and have not had their sense of entitlement catered to for 18 years. Can he get guys like that to play for him?
 
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I did say "if he's interested" which you're right, he might not be.

Also I didn't say but I think important to add that one other big difference at this level will be the management of player egos. You don't have that much at D2 or low D1 schools from what I've seen, those guys are mostly just glad to have somehwere to play while they go to school, they are not eyeing the NBA as their main objective and have not had their sense of entitlement catered to for 18 years. Can he get guys like that to play for him?
That is the million dollar question. He would be a huge gamble I don't care how many games he won at division 2. He is still very new to d1 and nil changes everything in regards to how you manage a program. If it was just building it from the ground up like crean had to do with no nil he would probably be a good pick.
 
The more I watch Drake the easier it is for me to like him. I really think he’s coaching to his teams strengths. I’m starting to get the feeling he would change the pace with better athletes and shooters. His team plays the long game on offense. They work you to death(like UConn).
Solid post. I'm a Drake basketball watcher for the last couple of months. Your description of his offense is spot on.
 
I can’t wait to watch his guards get dominated in the BIG…
This is what scares me the most, to win one off games like Drake beating Kansas State is one thing doing nightly is another. Ol Dusty May is finding that out these past few weeks. the second half of the Big he has been struggling. I think he will figure it out, but limited time as a P4 coach starts to show.

I'm also not sure McCollum wants the IU job. I'm not sure who would with the administration we have and rumors of staff interventions if certain candidates are hired. IU looks like a ticking bomb from a 1000 feet above.
 
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You don't want championships?
Drew seems like a good coach and person but I don't really get a confident feeling when watching Baylor. I see him as a better version of Tom Crean. His championship team was LOADED with multiple guys who consistently beat their guys on one on one isolation and excellent 3 pt shooters. I think he caught lightning in a bottle. Again, a better version of Tom Crean. He would just need to out recruit in order to win big.
 
Sounds familiar. Heard the same thing about Cig's JMU transfers last year.
The cig hire has really seem to tainted people into believeing that dolson can just go hire another mid major coach and he will be the next cig overnight. More often than not it does not work out that way. Cig actually had D1 experience of much longer than one season.
 
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This is what scares me the most, to win one off games like Drake beating Kansas State is one thing doing nightly is another. Ol Dusty May is finding that out these past few weeks. the second half of the Big he has been struggling. I think he will figure it out, but limited time as a P4 coach starts to show.

I'm also not sure McCollum wants the IU job. I'm not sure who would with the administration we have and rumors of staff interventions if certain candidates are hired. IU looks like a ticking bomb from a 1000 feet above.
I would actually prefer he is not interested. Just way too risky of a hire at this point but I could totally see them hiring him if he was interested.
 
This isn't 2017 or 2021 ... the past means nothing. Different circumstances. This is Dolson's first real basketball HC hire, and I doubt he brings in a "meh" coach.

I'd bet my spleen it won't be Brownell. Hell, I'd bet a less important internal organ that he was never seriously considered ... if at all. BB's last two solid seasons can't cloak a pedestrian career.
I hope you're right. I see the opportunity to hire Chris Beard as the premiere option. If they pass on him, lets hope for a shocker like Stevens, Wright, or Donovan. The next level of candidates like Brownell or a Cronin don't raise the bar much from Woodson.
 
Sounds familiar. Heard the same thing about Cig's JMU transfers last year.
Lightning isn't caught in a bottle too often, we did that last year with football. Also, transfers in football are a ton different. A roster of 85 is slightly different than a roster of 13, you can make a few mistakes with a big roster not so much with a small one.

If we are banking on Cig type of luck on this hire we may just have wishful thinking or just praying. lol
 
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You don't want championships?

They hire weirdo Drew and I will quit caring
The Drew ship never hit land, he is not coming to IU so I think you can continue to keep caring. Better be more frightened it isn't someone like Brownell, what a disaster that would be or better yet Alford. If it is Alford I'll quit caring.
 
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Lightning isn't caught in a bottle too often, we did that last year with football. Also, transfers in football are a ton different. A roster of 85 is slightly different than a roster of 13, you can make a few mistakes with a big roster not so much with a small one.

If we are banking on Cig type of luck on this hire we may just have wishful thinking or just praying. lol
What makes you think it was luck? I don't believe in luck.
 
I hope you're right. I see the opportunity to hire Chris Beard as the premiere option. If they pass on him, lets hope for a shocker like Stevens, Wright, or Donovan. The next level of candidates like Brownell or a Cronin don't raise the bar much from Woodson.
I fear my pass on beard and gets someone like Huss or todays hottest flavor or the month mccollum. We already tried the flavor of the month but I fear they will do it again.
 
Lightning isn't caught in a bottle too often, we did that last year with football. Also, transfers in football are a ton different. A roster of 85 is slightly different than a roster of 13, you can make a few mistakes with a big roster not so much with a small one.

If we are banking on Cig type of luck on this hire we may just have wishful thinking or just praying. lol
It seems some think because Cig so far after one years looks like a good hire we can simply do the same thing in bbal and it will also turn out great. I am interested to see how cig does in year two with a much harder schedule.
 
What makes you think it was luck? I don't believe in luck.
because things do have to align. I think Cig is a great catch, I'm amazed he made it to 62 without any prior major D1 offers? It is still lightening in a bottle and we caught it. Again, I love what Coach Cig did, lets see what happens this year and the next. Good coaching weathers the test of time.
 
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Drew seems like a good coach and person but I don't really get a confident feeling when watching Baylor. I see him as a better version of Tom Crean. His championship team was LOADED with multiple guys who consistently beat their guys on one on one isolation and excellent 3 pt shooters. I think he caught lightning in a bottle. Again, a better version of Tom Crean. He would just need to out recruit in order to win big.
Catching lightning in a bottle is part of any championship. Sure the coach has a huge part in it but there's a component of luck with getting the right group of guys and getting them all peaking at the right time and then some more luck in the bracket they draw to play through. It's rare for a coach to do it, and even more rare to do it more than once. McCollum has done it 4 times, although at a lower level.
 
I fear my pass on beard and gets someone like Huss or todays hottest flavor or the month mccollum. We already tried the flavor of the month but I fear they will do it again.
Beard is the flavor of the month. As good a candidate as McCollum, but not clearly better. Yet some posting how stupid we would be to hire someone else, and if so be fired .

Beard is flavor of the month.
 
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Catching lightning in a bottle is part of any championship. Sure the coach has a huge part in it but there's a component of luck with getting the right group of guys and getting them all peaking at the right time and then some more luck in the bracket they draw to play through. It's rare for a coach to do it, and even more rare to do it more than once. McCollum has done it 4 times, although at a lower level.
I get that tournament luck is important and that building the right roster involves luck. I just don't want to have to rely on that same luck again and again.

Think about this. Chris Beard is 14-6 in the NCAA Tournament. He actually had his best roster and was set to have a nice run the year he and his ex had their famous spat...or it would have been even better.
 
Beard is the flavor of the month. As good a candidate as McCollum, but not clearly better. Yet some posting how stupid we would be to hire someone else, and if so be fired .

Beard is flavor of the month.
Remember that Josh Schertz had an even better record in the MVC last year with ISU. He is also doing good things at St Louis this year. It isn't that McCollum isn't a good coach. I'm sure he is. It is just a big jump to bet on a terrific young coach that hasn't done it in major college BB yet.
 
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It seems some think because Cig so far after one years looks like a good hire we can simply do the same thing in bbal and it will also turn out great. I am interested to see how cig does in year two with a much harder schedule.
I fear my pass on beard and gets someone like Huss or todays hottest flavor or the month mccollum. We already tried the flavor of the month but I fear they will do it again.
Yes, we know you’re in perpetual panic and the sky is always falling.

Earlier this season you were convinced Scott could not fire Woody.
 
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