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Racist July 4th attack at Lake Monroe

Walking across the street is different than standing in the road to block it. I’m not encouraging drivers to mow down crowds of people, but on the other hand, if you don’t want to get run over, get out of the road...

The problem with that argument is she Accelerated and reportedly ran red lights. Video shows there were clearly people crossing the street ahead of her, who were NOT expecting a car to come barreling towards them at 30-40 mph. THAT element of other people in possible danger further up Walnut seems to be why the protestors at her car did not want her proceeding ahead, and why the one girl decided to stand in front of her in the first place...
 
As expected posters are lined up neatly on either side, seeing exactly what they want to in the vids and pointing fingers at the enemy. I could have saved you all time by accurately lining up and posting the two versions:

Version 1 Old bag white supremist comes to Btown to confront peaceful mask-wearing social-distanced KPop-dancing heroes protesting for the life of the nearly lynched man out trying to enjoy the fourth. White supremist old bag and her white supremist passenger assault a heroes scooter then intentionally plow into a peaceful hero who was politely asking the old bag to wait while a family of baby ducklings crossed the road. Old bag hits the gas with the premeditated intent to kill her and as many other rays of sunshine as possible.

A second hero tried to intervein begging the bag to stop for the lady she plowed into and the baby ducklings. Old bag proceeds to drag both of out heroes down the street squashing the ducklings where she flings them off the car and then backs up over them shouting "Four More Years"!!

Version two. Our hero had used her last two gallons of gas to drive to Btown to apply for a third job so that she could move from the motel that Nancy Pelosi had put her in to keep her dependent on the Dems. Accidentally encountering the assembled anarchists looting the Bluebird of photos and tearing down the statue of "Bobby".

Noticing that our heroes had a "support the troops" sticker and Toby Keith's iconic "Courtesy of the Red White and Blue" playing on the eight track the druggie thugs screamed "get em". They ran up to and onto the car pounding on the hood and screaming socialist propaganda with crack teeth halitosis into our heroes' faces. Our heros...fearing for their lives not to mention the thought of Bobby's statue sharing the same fate as the Showalter dolphin in 1981 begged the thugs to stop. Suddenly ten more crack-addled thugs show up behind the car and push it into the thugs in front...intending to edit the videos enough to frame these 'Merican Patriots.

See...I could saved you all a lot of time.

321 posts in this thread all neatly wrapped up by this one post. This alone would have saved countless hours of hyper-partisan vomiting and at least two meltdowns. I will jump in earlier next time to help.
 
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So if you can call me son, it's okay if I call you gramps, correct?

So, gramps, why haven't you answered one of my questions? Do you not support the authorities when they did their investigation and arrested the lady that hit the protesters. It seems like you don't for some reason. I would suspect they have way more info then you or I do, especially since all we've seen is a couple of videos. You seem to think one of the victims jumped on her hood for show. If you truly believe that, you might be the biggest goof I've encountered. At the very least, this lady is guilty of a hit and run. You can't deny that, or you can and will try and spin that.

And who are you to judge Booker? You weren't there. There was a group that was drawn there by the confrontation that is basically backing up Booker's claim though, correct? There were independent witnesses. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

Just because arrests weren't rushed doesn't mean they aren't coming. The process is going along.
You’re late for your liberal arts class!
 
321 posts in this thread all neatly wrapped up by this one post. This alone would have saved countless hours of hyper-partisan vomiting and at least two meltdowns. I will jump in earlier next time to help.

As events have, and continue to bear out all versions are NOT created equal. But thanks for dropping by and making "valuable" contributions there Bo'sides...
 
The problem with that argument is she Accelerated and reportedly ran red lights. Video shows there were clearly people crossing the street ahead of her, who were NOT expecting a car to come barreling towards them at 30-40 mph. THAT element of other people in possible danger further up Walnut seems to be why the protestors at her car did not want her proceeding ahead, and why the one girl decided to stand in front of her in the first place...
If you’re going to play the “she may have, was going to, etc.” game, I suggest you revisit the discussion about the fellow who was passed out at the drive thru. I believe your stance was quite different & suggested he should be let go.
 
All fine and good, but you're (purposely?) ignoring HER criminal history, specifically the types of crimes she has been charged with...
Two years in prison for STALKING. Additional arrests for trespassing, harassment, and intimidation. I'm thinking Prosecutors are going to maintain her pushing forward and running into a pedestrian within a crosswalk as "intimidation", and she already has a prior...

I was wrong about the Criminal recklessness, thinking it was at the misdemeanour level. They have already levelled the charge at the class 6 felony level, and the deadly vehicle enhancement seems to be inevitable...They already distinguished between the injury levels of the 2 victims...

  • Criminal recklessness, a level 6 felony
  • Leaving the scene of an accident resulting in serious bodily injury, a level 6 felony
  • Leaving the scene of an accident resulting in bodily injury, a class A misdemeanour
So you're staking your bet on a woman with previous convictions for crimes of anger like harassment and intimidation, along with actual imprisonment for STALKING being acquitted of two class 6 felonies involving obvious intimidation and endangerment? She inches forward forcing the pedestrian in the crosswalk to step back 4 or 5 steps THEN the pedestrian jumps on the hood. No one jumped on her car while it was stationary, and the guy did not grab her handle until the other person was in a vulnerable position on her hood. Her own passenger had to open his door and jump in while the car was moving...So clearly SHE acted on impulse. Anger?

The driver was not threatened. A petite girl stood in front of her, and she and her passenger were perfectly safe just sitting there. No one is going to buy that she felt "intimidated". I can't just drive ahead when a road crew is working and a flagger is making me wait at a site where Traffic from opposite directions is being funnelled into a 1 lane road. I'm often impatient and curse to myself, but I do NOT drive forward till I'm given the OK...

I can't just say there's no one coming and you can't just keep me here then drive on, just because I want to. If I do, I'm likely going to be charged with and convicted of,among other things, criminal recklessness, because I'm endangering others. The guys not a cop, but he's warning me of the danger of driving forward, and there is usually not a crosswalk involved.

I don't see any way this lady with the criminal record and mental history just walks. Maybe you can be her pro bono Defense Counsel since you are such a proponent of her actions?

Accelerating with other pedestrians and parked cars in view while in a congested downtown area,, running thru red lights, and turning right to throw the passengers off while speeding down a side street are all factors that IMO, also weigh heavily against her. If she could exit Walnut after driving a few more blocks, why couldn't she have done so initially and used any of a myriad of side streets that connect to Walnut as her route North? NONE of this was necessary...
What about the criminal history of George Floyd, or the cop assaulting, child beating dude in Atlanta. Many spent a lot of time arguing that was not Relevant in how they were treated...you’re hilariously one sided.
 
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I think the Democrats lost a lot of votes when they tore down the historical monuments in the parks. That showed us the kind of people they are in a dramatic way. They're the kind you don't want to be associated with. It's really that simple.
Oh was it Nancy and Joe tearing down historical monuments? What makes you think it was Democrats? By the way , since you’re here defending your moron in chief, what are your thoughts in him allowing Putin to put bounties on our soldiers? I’d think that would bother any decent human...
 
As events have, and continue to bear out all versions are NOT created equal. But thanks for dropping by and making "valuable" contributions there Bo'sides...

You are welcome but nothing has changed from the time the original post was made other than your continued obsessive meltdown. Sit the next few plays out Ace...before you have a breakdown. Let the Scenario 2 folks make asses of themselves for a bit without constantly overshadowing them and letting them off the hook.

It is an art...give it a try.
 
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The lawyer for the other side spoke up today. He said that Booker crossed into this guy's land getting to the place he was going. He said his client took Booker on his ATV and showed him the route that would avoid his property. He said Booker gave the guy a beer.

It was said that later Booker returned, said he was a county commissioner and was going to ruin their lives. He alleged Booker starting poking his finger in the guy's girlfriend's face so the guy stepped in. He said Booker threw a punch, and had a photo of the guy with a badly bruised chin. That is when the video started.

So, two entirely different stories. Good luck sorting them out.
 
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It was said that later Booker returned, said he was a county commissioner and was going to ruin their lives. He alleged Booker starting poking his finger in the guy's girlfriend's face so the guy stepped in. He said Booker threw a punch, and had a photo of the guy with a badly bruised chin. That is when the video started.
Sworn statements -- under penalty of perjury -- from Booker's companions should shed some light on it. Especially if it's the FBI doing the questioning.
 
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The lawyer for the other side spoke up today. He said that Booker crossed into this guy's land getting to the place he was going. He said his client took Booker on his ATV and showed him the route that would avoid his property. He said Booker gave the guy a beer.

It was said that later Booker returned, said he was a county commissioner and was going to ruin their lives. He alleged Booker starting poking his finger in the guy's girlfriend's face so the guy stepped in. He said Booker threw a punch, and had a photo of the guy with a badly bruised chin. That is when the video started.

So, two entirely different stories. Good luck sorting them out.
BINGO! Just like I called from the beginning. If only those 300+ protesters had not been so reactionary, so anxious, so blinded by their own agenda. Booker sounds like a publicity seeker to me, at other people’s expense. I think it might be time to place a call into Hannity’s people. Let’s expose this BS for what it truly is. Give this Booker clown his day in court and then we’ll see how much profit he makes from this Smollett-like scam.
 
So if you can call me son, it's okay if I call you gramps, correct?

So, gramps, why haven't you answered one of my questions? Do you not support the authorities when they did their investigation and arrested the lady that hit the protesters. It seems like you don't for some reason. I would suspect they have way more info then you or I do, especially since all we've seen is a couple of videos. You seem to think one of the victims jumped on her hood for show. If you truly believe that, you might be the biggest goof I've encountered. At the very least, this lady is guilty of a hit and run. You can't deny that, or you can and will try and spin that.

And who are you to judge Booker? You weren't there. There was a group that was drawn there by the confrontation that is basically backing up Booker's claim though, correct? There were independent witnesses. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

Just because arrests weren't rushed doesn't mean they aren't coming. The process is going along.
I just now saw your response. Gramps is fine, although I’m not in the literal sense. I’ve earned my wrinkles, the badge of accomplishment for those no longer contributing to society in a meaningful way.

I don’t know what the hell transpired with this crazy-eyed lady, I just know how protesters react when they all get agitated. My guess is nothing will become of it unless they find out she was bought and paid for by the liberal faction to stage a bogus “auto plowing into throng of ‘peaceful’ protesters”, protesters agitated by a trouble maker, Booker, looking for attention to further his own career as a defender of social injustices. The new information out today certainly sheds new light on the possibilities. I can’t wait to see the additional videos they have promised for court, including testimony from the “man in green”. Bloomington thrives on drama!
 
Yep, the investigation will be critical with the statements.
No doubt the truth is in the middle somewhere. Based on his antics around the Bearcat (I supported him in opposing the purchase but didn't care for his methods) I wouldn't be surprised if Booker is making more of this incident than is called for, but I'd be less inclined to think he's the aggressor.
 
I just now saw your response. Gramps is fine, although I’m not in the literal sense. I’ve earned my wrinkles, the badge of accomplishment for those no longer contributing to society in a meaningful way.

I don’t know what the hell transpired with this crazy-eyed lady, I just know how protesters react when they all get agitated. My guess is nothing will become of it unless they find out she was bought and paid for by the liberal faction to stage a bogus “auto plowing into throng of ‘peaceful’ protesters”, protesters agitated by a trouble maker, Booker, looking for attention to further his own career as a defender of social injustices. The new information out today certainly sheds new light on the possibilities. I can’t wait to see the additional videos they have promised for court, including testimony from the “man in green”. Bloomington thrives on drama!

What are you talking about? That lady is lucky she didn't kill someone. She's already facing felony charges. I suspect she's gonna be facing a jail term of some sort.

As for the news today, I find it hard to believe that Booker was driven on the gentleman's atv and shown the way to avoid the property route, and then on top of that, Booker than gave him a beer? That doesn't seem a little fishy to you? If you think the Booker story doesn't add up, this one is missing several digits.
 
What are you talking about? That lady is lucky she didn't kill someone. She's already facing felony charges. I suspect she's gonna be facing a jail term of some sort.

As for the news today, I find it hard to believe that Booker was driven on the gentleman's atv and shown the way to avoid the property route, and then on top of that, Booker than gave him a beer? That doesn't seem a little fishy to you? If you think the Booker story doesn't add up, this one is missing several digits.
I have not seen the video and was not there in person, glad I wasn’t trying to eat at Malibu Grill, one of our favorite places. I’m curious as to how they found her in a Scottsburg motel when she lived in Greensburg. Was she there to hide from police? How difficult would it have been to arrest her before Scottsburg, what with all the police standing around the “peaceful until agitated” protesters. Regarding Booker, it will be about how convincing the witnesses are for each side. Lord knows there are enough of them, hopefully all sober by now. Addition video footage and the “green man” promised by the Redneck Defense Team (RDT) may make it a slam dunk. I think they’ll need to move the jury trial out of Monroe, if it ever comes to that. Personally, I never thought Booker’s claim added up, even before I saw his background toward this very sort of thing, and inviting the public to become followers of his activism by directing them to his website at the same time he first reported the “attempted murder by hanging”. What a lowlife stooge he must be, just for that tacky move.
 
The lawyer for the other side spoke up today. He said that Booker crossed into this guy's land getting to the place he was going. He said his client took Booker on his ATV and showed him the route that would avoid his property. He said Booker gave the guy a beer.

It was said that later Booker returned, said he was a county commissioner and was going to ruin their lives. He alleged Booker starting poking his finger in the guy's girlfriend's face so the guy stepped in. He said Booker threw a punch, and had a photo of the guy with a badly bruised chin. That is when the video started.

So, two entirely different stories. Good luck sorting them out.
That seems a bit fishy too. Nothing conclusive til it’s conclusive.
 
Oh man, you have a doppelganger troll. I thought this only existed on the Basketball and Football boards.

I know, it’s actually a huge compliment.

I got in their head enough for them to create a name imitating me. No matter what that dude says about why he did it, I win
 
I know, it’s actually a huge compliment.

I got in their head enough for them to create a name imitating me. No matter what that dude says about why he did it, I win

Yup.

I have had at least six over the years here (mostly BB and FB) and several on the Purdue GBI board. It is quite compliment in my view.
 
The lawyer for the other side spoke up today. He said that Booker crossed into this guy's land getting to the place he was going. He said his client took Booker on his ATV and showed him the route that would avoid his property. He said Booker gave the guy a beer.

It was said that later Booker returned, said he was a county commissioner and was going to ruin their lives. He alleged Booker starting poking his finger in the guy's girlfriend's face so the guy stepped in. He said Booker threw a punch, and had a photo of the guy with a badly bruised chin. That is when the video started.

So, two entirely different stories. Good luck sorting them out.

Not to mention the clean polygraph tests by McCord and Purdy. And the offer to pay for Booker to take one. Will he?
 
Meanwhile...

My Black Son Sold “N-Word Passes” to His White Friends

https://slate.com/human-interest/20...ing-advice-care-and-feeding.html?via=taps_top

Apparently, Martin has been selling “N-word passes” to kids at his middle school for $20-50! It’s been going on for weeks, and he had offered it to Taylor’s friend’s sister, who screenshot it and sent it to Taylor. They go to diverse schools for our area, but there are still a lot of white/non-Black kids there. Taylor told us that kids have been sending Martin money via Venmo, and she thinks he’s made almost $1,000.​
 
Meanwhile...

My Black Son Sold “N-Word Passes” to His White Friends

https://slate.com/human-interest/20...ing-advice-care-and-feeding.html?via=taps_top

Apparently, Martin has been selling “N-word passes” to kids at his middle school for $20-50! It’s been going on for weeks, and he had offered it to Taylor’s friend’s sister, who screenshot it and sent it to Taylor. They go to diverse schools for our area, but there are still a lot of white/non-Black kids there. Taylor told us that kids have been sending Martin money via Venmo, and she thinks he’s made almost $1,000.​
Lol. Entrepreneurship.
 
Speaking of entrepreneurs. These two twins of Carlton Banks would obviously do anything for money. I have nothing against black conservatives, bless their heart, but these two doofs are hilariously bad. These dorks are why the term, “Uncle Tom” exists.
 
If you’re going to play the “she may have, was going to, etc.” game, I suggest you revisit the discussion about the fellow who was passed out at the drive thru. I believe your stance was quite different & suggested he should be let go.
What about the criminal history of George Floyd, or the cop assaulting, child beating dude in Atlanta. Many spent a lot of time arguing that was not Relevant in how they were treated...you’re hilariously one sided.

You're somehow equating people who died at the hands of police with a woman who was arrested and charged. I never said that Floyd or Brooks were "innocent" or shouldn't be arrested. I said the tactics deployed during the process of their arrest (knee on Floyd's neck, Brooks being shot) did not mesh with the severity of the crimes which led to their being confronted by police in the first place.

I believe I pointed out that having called in Brooks' license and ran warrants, that the cops could have simply picked him up later at his residence. Ironically enough, that is pretty much what happened with the woman in Bloomington. Based on nothing more than her license plate, investigators were able to trace her to the motel in Scottsburg and arrest her.

So police in Indiana can run a plate, get a home address in Greensburg, and ultimately track her to Scottsburg some 60+ miles away. But the police in Atlanta would somehow be incapable of tracking Brooks to his residence when they had his driver's license and he had been arrested at what was probably a close to his own neighborhood location?

This is what I was arguing. The fact that shooting at a running man in a parking lot so crowded that your bullets actually hit other cars was ludicrous in pursuit of a suspect arrested for being drunk in their vehicle. There's just no logical reason (imho) that if cops in Indiana can track a subject from out of town, that cops in Atlanta couldn't do the same for a suspect in Atlanta when they already knew his name and address...

Brooks was running away from his car, so I thought the argument that he'd go out and drunkenly run over someone was ludicrous and based on nothing more than supposition. The woman in Bloomington committed her crimes in her car and then escaped in her car. Brooks' car was in the parking lot, and the cops were between him and his vehicle. So had he run off he'd likely have gone home and at some point, in the next few days the cops could have picked him up for DUI and the other charges. It happened in Indiana, why is it difficult to accept it could've easily happened in Atlanta just as well?'
 
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Not to mention the clean polygraph tests by McCord and Purdy. And the offer to pay for Booker to take one. Will he?

There's a reason why polygraphs aren't admisable in court.... they're easy to beat. That doesn't prove anything.
 
You're somehow equating people who died at the hands of police with a woman who was arrested and charged. I never said that Floyd or Brooks were "innocent" or shouldn't be arrested. I said the tactics deployed during the process of their arrest (knee on Floyd's neck, Brooks being shot) did not mesh with the severity of the crimes which led to their being confronted by police in the first place.

I believe I pointed out that having called in Brooks' license and ran warrants, that the cops could have simply picked him up later at his residence. Ironically enough, that is pretty much what happened with the woman in Bloomington. Based on nothing more than her license plate, investigators were able to trace her to the motel in Scottsburg and arrest her.

So police in Indiana can run a plate, get a home address in Greensburg, and ultimately track her to Scottsburg some 60+ miles away. But the police in Atlanta would somehow be incapable of tracking Brooks to his residence when they had his driver's license and he had been arrested at what was probably a close to his own neighborhood location?

This is what I was arguing. The fact that shooting at a running man in a parking lot so crowded that your bullets actually hit other cars was ludicrous in pursuit of a suspect arrested for being drunk in their vehicle. There's just no logical reason (imho) that if cops in Indiana can track a subject from out of town, that cops in Atlanta couldn't do the same for a suspect in Atlanta when they already knew his name and address...

Brooks was running away from his car, so I thought the argument that he'd go out and drunkenly run over someone was ludicrous and based on nothing more than supposition. The woman in Bloomington committed her crimes in her car and then escaped in her car. Brooks' car was in the parking lot, and the cops were between him and his vehicle. So had he run off he'd likely have gone home and at some point, in the next few days the cops could have picked him up for DUI and the other charges. It happened in Indiana, why is it difficult to accept it could've easily happened in Atlanta just as well?'
I’d argue that neither should be let go from the scene of the crime, but the cops weren’t there to stop crazy lady. If you really think the cops shot Brooks because he was a drunk driver, you’re either being disingenuous or incredibly stupid. I’d still prefer the police keep criminals like Floyd, Brooks, & the crazy driver lady off of the street. If the people resist violently & the officers need to fear for their life Or the lives of others, they should use whatever Means necessary to take the criminal off of the street. I find it odd that when faced with the choice to be critical of a criminal, when all he has to do is comply with the police, you choose to instead be critical of the actions of the police that were assaulted by a previously convicted violent criminal. Accountability for your actions is something many of you won’t consider. I wonder if it lacks in your life as well, or if you abandon it only when you have agendas or can politicize something. I’ll give an example. If you’re a policeman, and you unnecessarily kneel on the neck of someone you’ve arrested, killing them in the process, you should go to jail.
 
The DNR suggests charges all around, assault and confinement against the group, assault and criminal trespass against Booker.
 
There's a reason why polygraphs aren't admisable in court.... they're easy to beat. That doesn't prove anything.

Didn't say it proves anything. But I don't agree they are "easy to beat".

The American Polygraph Association, which sets standards for testing, says that polygraphs are "highly accurate," citing an accuracy rate above 90 percent when done properly. Critics, however, say the tests are correct only 70 percent of the time.

So, what are the odds 2 people are able to beat a lie detector test when asked the same questions? I would think pretty low.

And if it's easy to beat, let's have Mr. Booker take it and see. If he passes the same questions, then we know it's easy to beat. Probably need to have one of his friends who was a witness take it too. Just to be fair. Or have all the witnesses take it. Surely they all can't beat it.
 
I’d argue that neither should be let go from the scene of the crime, but the cops weren’t there to stop crazy lady. If you really think the cops shot Brooks because he was a drunk driver, you’re either being disingenuous or incredibly stupid. I’d still prefer the police keep criminals like Floyd, Brooks, & the crazy driver lady off of the street. If the people resist violently & the officers need to fear for their life Or the lives of others, they should use whatever Means necessary to take the criminal off of the street. I find it odd that when faced with the choice to be critical of a criminal, when all he has to do is comply with the police, you choose to instead be critical of the actions of the police that were assaulted by a previously convicted violent criminal. Accountability for your actions is something many of you won’t consider. I wonder if it lacks in your life as well, or if you abandon it only when you have agendas or can politicize something. I’ll give an example. If you’re a policeman, and you unnecessarily kneel on the neck of someone you’ve arrested, killing them in the process, you should go to jail.

If you think shooting at a fleeing man armed with an expired taser in a crowded parking lot is exhibiting good judgement by the officers involved, then I guess we have to agree to disagree. Do you also feel that high-speed vehicle chases of people suspected of non-violent crimes are also justified, even when innocent people in other vehicles end up hurt?

I wonder how you'd feel if you were hit by a cop or a suspect they were chasing that was maybe guilty of say shoplifting? What if someone in your family was injured or killed and you found out that the suspect they charged had committed a non-violent offense?
Would you waive any possible legal action? You know that shots fired from the officers in the Brooks case actually hit other vehicles, right?

What if it was you and your kids in line at BK,and one of your kids was accidentally shot. Would you still find this to be such a cut and dried issue?

"If the people resist violently & the officers need to fear for their life Or the lives of others, they should use whatever Means necessary to take the criminal off of the street."

Those cops knew he wasn't armed with a loaded weapon. They had searched him and actually attempted to handcuff him. They also knew he had discharged the taser, and I assume they knew how their OWN tasers worked. They had his driver's license, and they knew he was not currently wanted. Again, there were other people in the line of fire, to the extent that other cars were struck by stray bullets...
 
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The DNR suggests charges all around, assault and confinement against the group, assault and criminal trespass against Booker.

Just saw a deeper analysis on the news, and some of it strikes me as confusing.

First off the possible charges against the Purdy crew are all felonies, while the possible charges against Vauhxx and his friend are described as misdemeanors. But one of those charges possibly levelled against both Booker and his friend is described as "criminal trespass". However, the news report said the incident occurred on DNR-leased land NOT private property, so I'm not sure the basis of the "trespass" claim?

Apparently the Purdy crowd was being rowdy, and according to the Booker group were shouting racist epithets at boats on the Lake. This apparently angered Vauhxx, who confronted them and claimed that he was a "County Commissioner" and threatened them with arrest. The report is 70 pages, and so the crew at Fox 59 was still reading it and trying to digest it...

The DNR claimed that Booker refused (on the advice of his attorney) to be interviewed by DNR. Booker's attorney issued a statement that he was refusing to answer/be interrogated by the same 2 DNR officers who, in her words, ignored his claims on July 4th. Something about the DNR officers refusing to make arrests due to a lack of physical evidence, but both Booker's friends, as well as bystanders, have claimed that when they offered to make statements or show those DNR officers videos the officer's basically ignored them...

Turned over to Monroe Co to decide how to proceed...
 
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