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And they're not even good at it. If I got swept by my rival and lost to a 16 seed in what is considered to be one of the greatest years in their program history, there isn't a chance in hell I'm showing my face in a public forum talking smack, let alone on a rivals page.
In year 20, their coach is losing to mid majors in historical fashion and IU swept them last year. I don't really understand what the message is that they're trying to get across. It certainly isn't bragging time.
 
nor does your wanting to believe it make it true. You sure are a butt-hurt bunch. Get back to your own board; you have a big game tonight, that should be your focus.
 
nor does your wanting to believe it make it true. You sure are a butt-hurt bunch. Get back to your own board; you have a big game tonight, that should be your focus.
We have another game tonight, yes. What’s to talk about before a meaningless game?
 
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We have another game tonight, yes. What’s to talk about before a meaningless game?
Meaningless? Wait, you told us last year that the NCAA loss to FDU was meaningless. Your players sure were pimping their Conference championship rings over the summer, so while I'd agree it's far less meaningful than it used to be with the unbalanced schedule, they sure seemed to try and impart meaning on it. Given that you have a home game against the conference leading team and your most likely challenger, even with them missing their best player, everything would point to it being meaningful. But, I understand your attempt to diminish it's meaning. Yeah, I can see why you'd prefer to hang out on your rivals site and try and put forth that your PG was wooed by Gonzaga based off internet rumors. Makes perfect sense... (Hahahhahhahahahhaaha)
 
We have another game tonight, yes. What’s to talk about before a meaningless game?
Purdue is king of downplaying March failures while resorting to regular season triumphs. You dolts tried to talk your way into thinking November wins against Duke and Gonzaga last year had more impact than your loss to FDU.
 
nor does your wanting to believe it make it true. You sure are a butt-hurt bunch. Get back to your own board; you have a big game tonight, that should be your focus.
We are their focus.

As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be..Embittered obsession without end.

Amen
 
Meaningless? Wait, you told us last year that the NCAA loss to FDU was meaningless. Your players sure were pimping their Conference championship rings over the summer, so while I'd agree it's far less meaningful than it used to be with the unbalanced schedule, they sure seemed to try and impart meaning on it. Given that you have a home game against the conference leading team and your most likely challenger, even with them missing their best player, everything would point to it being meaningful. But, I understand your attempt to diminish it's meaning. Yeah, I can see why you'd prefer to hang out on your rivals site and try and put forth that your PG was wooed by Gonzaga based off internet rumors. Makes perfect sense... (Hahahhahhahahahhaaha)
Where did I say FDU was meaningless? (Hint: I didn’t) I was just reflecting what this board has told me.

And I really don’t care what you say about smith and Gonzaga. Doesn’t make it any less true. Believe what you want.
 
Purdue is king of downplaying March failures while resorting to regular season triumphs. You dolts tried to talk your way into thinking November wins against Duke and Gonzaga last year had more impact than your loss to FDU.
I’m on record saying the season is a lose lose for Purdue. If they win, it’s FDU (even though it has nothing to do with this year) and if they lose, it’s haha they suck. All that matters this year is March. But sure, tell me what I do.

But no, I never said the FDU loss was fine because we beat Gonzaga. Heck, I read that no where after that loss. But sure, tell me what I said.
 
FDU's back court was way better than PU. PU's back court is nothing special.

Painter is an awful NCAA tournament coach and has experienced historic lows. PU is going to need a new coach and a program overhaul if they ever want to "get up for those games." PU is the program that focuses on non-March games. There is a lot of emphasis on "winning November and December," and there are a lot of chants about IU during non-IU games.
Can’t agree with the program overhaul comment. Paint can be extremely frustrating but respect the heck out of his philosophy. I think he protects the purity of the game in unrivaled fashioned. He found out he didn’t want high caliber kids who had no interest in playing or listening. Wanted kids who wanted to learn, listen and love playing the game. He doesn’t make excuses , berate officials, players or other coaches - puts in scrubs with 6:00 to go instead of running up the score. Has taken several players out of games who would have set records because it would have come at the expense of opposing teams/coaches. First class moves. He’s a national coach of the year, has 4 B1G championships, 2 conference tourney championships, 6 sweet 16 appearances and an elite 8. A bad luck play from a final four. Nearly a 70% overall winning percentage and 4th among all B1G coaches. His teams without 4 or 5 star recruits has reached #1 in AP polls in consecutive years. Only 1 of 3 coaches who has gone undefeated in the non-conference for 3 consecutive years in the last 50 years.

In almost the same amount of time Indiana has missed the tournament 11 times while searching for a program.

Now Paint has his flaws, but I’m curious. You are the AD. Not a keyboard warrior. At what point do you decide that your program is not moving in a good direction and overhaul the program. Btw, you paying less than $4m per year for this performance.

Serious question.
 
Can’t agree with the program overhaul comment. Paint can be extremely frustrating but respect the heck out of his philosophy. I think he protects the purity of the game in unrivaled fashioned. He found out he didn’t want high caliber kids who had no interest in playing or listening. Wanted kids who wanted to learn, listen and love playing the game. He doesn’t make excuses , berate officials, players or other coaches - puts in scrubs with 6:00 to go instead of running up the score. Has taken several players out of games who would have set records because it would have come at the expense of opposing teams/coaches. First class moves. He’s a national coach of the year, has 4 B1G championships, 2 conference tourney championships, 6 sweet 16 appearances and an elite 8. A bad luck play from a final four. Nearly a 70% overall winning percentage and 4th among all B1G coaches. His teams without 4 or 5 star recruits has reached #1 in AP polls in consecutive years. Only 1 of 3 coaches who has gone undefeated in the non-conference for 3 consecutive years in the last 50 years.

In almost the same amount of time Indiana has missed the tournament 11 times while searching for a program.

Now Paint has his flaws, but I’m curious. You are the AD. Not a keyboard warrior. At what point do you decide that your program is not moving in a good direction and overhaul the program. Btw, you paying less than $4m per year for this performance.

Serious question.
And if you move on from Painter, who do you hire?
 
And if you move on from Painter, who do you hire?
Somebody else. Or stay in a mediocre relationship. It depends on what your standards are and what you're trying to accomplish.

I don't think being afraid of trying or ignoring things that matter is a good way to go through life: you fail every time and aren't being honest with yourself.
 
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Somebody else. Or stay in a mediocre relationship. It depends on what your standards are and what you're trying to accomplish.

I don't think being afraid of trying or ignoring things that matter is a good way to go through life: you fail every time and aren't being honest with yourself.
Bold decision but respect that. Pursuing Machiavellian paths can be dangerous. Just look at Calipari. Not saying one is better than the other, but I certainly wouldn’t care to watch what Uk has become over the past decade. Paint has been extremely frustrating at times but end of the day respect what he is doing.
 
Can’t agree with the program overhaul comment. Paint can be extremely frustrating but respect the heck out of his philosophy. I think he protects the purity of the game in unrivaled fashioned. He found out he didn’t want high caliber kids who had no interest in playing or listening. Wanted kids who wanted to learn, listen and love playing the game. He doesn’t make excuses , berate officials, players or other coaches - puts in scrubs with 6:00 to go instead of running up the score. Has taken several players out of games who would have set records because it would have come at the expense of opposing teams/coaches. First class moves. He’s a national coach of the year, has 4 B1G championships, 2 conference tourney championships, 6 sweet 16 appearances and an elite 8. A bad luck play from a final four. Nearly a 70% overall winning percentage and 4th among all B1G coaches. His teams without 4 or 5 star recruits has reached #1 in AP polls in consecutive years. Only 1 of 3 coaches who has gone undefeated in the non-conference for 3 consecutive years in the last 50 years.

In almost the same amount of time Indiana has missed the tournament 11 times while searching for a program.

Now Paint has his flaws, but I’m curious. You are the AD. Not a keyboard warrior. At what point do you decide that your program is not moving in a good direction and overhaul the program. Btw, you paying less than $4m per year for this performance.

Serious question.
The performance is tremendous for a program like Purdue. You hang onto him like a pit bull.

Yea he was one play away from a final four but was also a bad call away from losing in the S16 so take the good with the bad
 
My discussion has nothing to do with IU; it's that I think this year's (and last years) Purdue team would be pretty pedestrian without Edey. I think you'd probably still be a tourney team and top half of the B10, but I'm not even sure you'd be top 25.
They are up 15 at half on Illinois and Edey has 2 pts
 
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You ready to historically shit the bed against another mid-major in year 20? Worst loss in NCAA tournament history. PU has given up on doing anything in March: don't talk about Super Bowls.
I'm 100% cream and crimson, but the FDU repetition is getting old. Painter is a far, far better coach than Woodson, and it's not even close.

I know you're response: IU didn't lose to FDU, and Woody is 3-1 against PU. Both are true, of course, but Painter doesn't get smoked by good teams on a weekly basis. Moreover, it seems like he understands college basketball, unlike Woody.
 
I'm 100% cream and crimson, but the FDU repetition is getting old. Painter is a far, far better coach than Woodson, and it's not even close.

I know you're response: IU didn't lose to FDU, and Woody is 3-1 against PU. Both are true, of course, but Painter doesn't get smoked by good teams on a weekly basis. Moreover, it seems like he understands college basketball, unlike Woody.
The FDU loss will never get old or not be funny: it is the worst loss in NCAA tournament history.
Painter gets smoked by mid-majors when it counts: historically awful March coach.
 
Which is what Dolson should have done instead of handing the ruins to a 63-year-old whose only college basketball qualification was that he once donned an IU uniform.
If I had to guess, I think Woody will be gone sooner rather than later.
 
I'm 100% cream and crimson, but the FDU repetition is getting old. Painter is a far, far better coach than Woodson, and it's not even close.

I know you're response: IU didn't lose to FDU, and Woody is 3-1 against PU. Both are true, of course, but Painter doesn't get smoked by good teams on a weekly basis. Moreover, it seems like he understands college basketball, unlike Woody.
Matt Painter is in year 20. Yes year 20. What program worth a salt would continue to employ a two decade tenured coach who has lost in 3 consecutive tournaments to North Texas, St. Peter’s, and FDU? Hell name a coach at a P5 program who has been there 20 years and NOT been to a F4? I can’t think of one.

There are schools who have expectations and then there’s Purdue. Purdue is perfectly content with being November National champions every year lead by November Matt.
 
Purdues chances in the NCAA come down to how tough the guards play. Simple as that. Teams are going to get in their faces and make them uncomfortable
 
Keady always looked like he was going to pee his pants from fear of losing during tournament games. Totally stressed. Painter looks like he is trying to puzzle out a paper on quantum physics. The coaches state of mind is highly contagious during the tourney.
 
They are up 15 at half on Illinois and Edey has 2 pts
But he played you schmuck. In the first half I saw him go over the back 3-4 times and set 2-3 moving screens. He got called for 1 over the back and the crowd went nuts. He ended with a double double and 15 rebounds, and somehow you think that equates to playing without Edey? Assembly Call used to be called the hall of calls, but now I'm thinking Mackey is the Hall of No Calls. The entire crowd has now adopted Gene's habit of erupting over any call on a PU player. Your guys do foul.... a lot!

In fairness I was much more impressed with TKR. First time I've seen him repeatedly make quick spins, etc... and not look like he's overthinking what he's going to do.
 
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But he played you schmuck. In the first half I saw him go over the back 3-4 times and set 2-3 moving screens. He got called for 1 over the back and the crowd went nuts. He ended with a double double and 15 rebounds, and somehow you think that equates to playing without Edey? Assembly Call used to be called the hall of calls, but now I'm thinking Mackey is the Hall of No Calls. The entire crowd has now adopted Gene's habit of erupting over any call on a PU player. Your guys do foul.... a lot!

In fairness I was much more impressed with TKR. First time I've seen him repeatedly make quick spins, etc... and not look like he's overthinking what he's going to do.
Astonishing what Edey gets away with and Mackey has always been known as a low IQ crowd full of hot heads
 
But he played you schmuck. In the first half I saw him go over the back 3-4 times and set 2-3 moving screens. He got called for 1 over the back and the crowd went nuts. He ended with a double double and 15 rebounds, and somehow you think that equates to playing without Edey? Assembly Call used to be called the hall of calls, but now I'm thinking Mackey is the Hall of No Calls. The entire crowd has now adopted Gene's habit of erupting over any call on a PU player. Your guys do foul.... a lot!

In fairness I was much more impressed with TKR. First time I've seen him repeatedly make quick spins, etc... and not look like he's overthinking what he's going to do.
Hey you Schmuck, I was simply saying, they were up 15 on a top 10 team without Edey much of the first half with foul trouble. They are a deep team and have different guys step up.
 
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Matt Painter is in year 20. Yes year 20. What program worth a salt would continue to employ a two decade tenured coach who has lost in 3 consecutive tournaments to North Texas, St. Peter’s, and FDU? Hell name a coach at a P5 program who has been there 20 years and NOT been to a F4? I can’t think of one.

There are schools who have expectations and then there’s Purdue. Purdue is perfectly content with being November National champions every year lead by November Matt.
Morehead, Kennesaw. LOL
 
Matt Painter is in year 20. Yes year 20. What program worth a salt would continue to employ a two decade tenured coach who has lost in 3 consecutive tournaments to North Texas, St. Peter’s, and FDU? Hell name a coach at a P5 program who has been there 20 years and NOT been to a F4? I can’t think of one.

There are schools who have expectations and then there’s Purdue. Purdue is perfectly content with being November National champions every year lead by November Matt.
Terrible take, I guarantee we would love to be in the same position as PU as a program the last 10 years vs where we are.
 
Terrible take, I guarantee we would love to be in the same position as PU as a program the last 10 years vs where we are.
It’s entertainment value without substance. I get a kick out of it, tbh. But it’s not very clever or imaginative.
 
Keady always looked like he was going to pee his pants from fear of losing during tournament games. Totally stressed. Painter looks like he is trying to puzzle out a paper on quantum physics. The coaches state of mind is highly contagious during the tourney.
Hate to say but I agree with this. When CMP gets nervous, he licks his lips and bites the inside of his mouth. This was frequent at the start of his career but comes back around at tourney time. Still, I would rather have his results over the past 20 years than a carousel of coaches and frequent rebuilds.
 
Hate to say but I agree with this. When CMP gets nervous, he licks his lips and bites the inside of his mouth. This was frequent at the start of his career but comes back around at tourney time. Still, I would rather have his results over the past 20 years than a carousel of coaches and frequent rebuilds.
Can’t deny-it’s been a circus. It would have been different if RMK hadn’t been fired and a normal transition to his successor or if Brad Stevens had taken the job.

I struggle to see who benefited from RMK’s firing except for Miles Brand getting a job with the NCAA, IU’s basketball opponents, those that were glad to see a great coach brought low, and various sportscaster getting a victory lap. RMK had the perfect state of mind for the tourney to get the best out of his players.

The Keady to Painter transition was handled well.
 
Terrible take, I guarantee we would love to be in the same position as PU as a program the last 10 years vs where we are.
Their record would be an upgrade for sure, but I would prefer more success late even at the expense of success early.

I like Painter and have always wondered how he might have done had he coached here given all of the systemic advantages he would have had at his fingertips.
 
I like Painter and have always wondered how he might have done had he coached here given all of the systemic advantages he would have had at his fingertips.
I’m not certain how much access you have to former insiders - but evidently it’s the system that is broken at IU at upper levels. Has been described as toxic.
 
Their record would be an upgrade for sure, but I would prefer more success late even at the expense of success early.

I like Painter and have always wondered how he might have done had he coached here given all of the systemic advantages he would have had at his fingertips.
I agree however they have a much better overall program than IU. They make a run this year and it really distances them from IU
 
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I’m not certain how much access you have to former insiders - but evidently it’s the system that is broken at IU at upper levels. Has been described as toxic.
You wouldn't know

But keep trolling here after a big win

Defines your fan base.
 
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