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Purdue/IU Rivalry- Zero coach fights

The crazy thing is besides the chair incident Keady was far and away the wild man on the sideline in those games. BK respected the coaching profession although he did headslap Joe B Hall once
 
Keady and Knight respected eachother, not sure anyone respects Howard at this point.
A lot of people are defending Howard. Even some posters here have suggested that he was provoked and acted reasonably in self-defense.

And now some are saying that the handshake line itself contributes to this and should go away.
 
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A lot of people are defending Howard. Even some posters here have suggested that he was provoked and acted reasonably in self-defense.

And now some are saying that the handshake line itself contributes to this and should go away.
Gard did initiate contact, Howard did not act reasonably or in self defense, and the handshake line should be eliminated with individual greetings optional.
 
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Gard did initiate contact, Howard did not act reasonably or in self defense, and the handshake line should be eliminated with individual greetings optional.
Sportsmanship is a foundational virtue of sporting competitions. And public gestures of sportsmanship - whether it’s boxers touching gloves or tennis players meeting at the net - are central to showing the difference between spirited competition and genuine hostility.

We shouldn’t get rid of these gestures of sportsmanship. We should get rid of sportsmen who aren’t good sports.

The handshake line wasn’t the culprit here.
 
Gard did initiate contact, Howard did not act reasonably or in self defense, and the handshake line should be eliminated with individual greetings optional.
I should also say that I agree Gard wasn’t innocent here. He clearly went beyond verbal griping and made aggressive physical contact with Howard. And I think he deserves punishment as well, albeit not as severe as Howard’s.

Howard’s defenders need to remember that Gard wasn’t the guy he struck.
 
Sportsmanship is a foundational virtue of sporting competitions. And public gestures of sportsmanship - whether it’s boxers touching gloves or tennis players meeting at the net - are central to showing the difference between spirited competition and genuine hostility.

We shouldn’t get rid of these gestures of sportsmanship. We should get rid of sportsmen who aren’t good sports.

The handshake line wasn’t the culprit here.
The current culture in the BIG isthe culprit here. I started a thread on that below.
 
I should also say that I agree Gard wasn’t innocent here. He clearly went beyond verbal griping and made aggressive physical contact with Howard. And I think he deserves punishment as well, albeit not as severe as Howard’s.

Howard’s defenders need to remember that Gard wasn’t the guy he struck.
He struck the third (or fourth) Wis staffer to inject themselves into the mess.
 
The current culture in the BIG isthe culprit here. I started a thread on that below.
Maybe. But getting rid of handshake lines isn’t going to remedy that.

Changing a bad culture requires forceful action and a complete intolerance for bad actors and actions. And, frankly, I don’t think the PTBs have the wherewithal to do that.
 
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He struck the third (or fourth) Wis staffer to inject themselves into the mess.
But, importantly (very importantly), not the guy who had made physical contact with him.

Interjecting, here, just means verbal confrontation. Would Howard have been more justified in striking the 5th or 6th Wis staffer to bark at him? What about 7th or 8th?

How many people being verbally confrontational warrants that kind of physical response?

There’s no defending Howard striking the guy.
 
The current culture in the BIG isthe culprit here. I started a thread on that below.
Speaking of culture, I read on social media elsewhere Dick Vitale is now calling for the end of the traditional post game handshakes. Welcome to the liberal's cancel culture, Dick (head)! Wasn't there a time when players from opposing teams individually met at center court for a handshake during player introductions.? I remember an Illinois player practically knocking Eric Gordon off his feet with a chest butt.
 
Speaking of culture, I read on social media elsewhere Dick Vitale is now calling for the end of the traditional post game handshakes. Welcome to the liberal's cancel culture, Dick (head)! Wasn't there a time when players from opposing teams individually met at center court for a handshake during player introductions.? I remember an Illinois player practically knocking Eric Gordon off his feet with a chest butt.
I don’t know if this idea is borne of liberal cancel culture or not. But, either way, it’s a bad idea.
 
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Speaking of culture, I read on social media elsewhere Dick Vitale is now calling for the end of the traditional post game handshakes. Welcome to the liberal's cancel culture, Dick (head)! Wasn't there a time when players from opposing teams individually met at center court for a handshake during player introductions.? I remember an Illinois player practically knocking Eric Gordon off his feet with a chest butt.
Vitale is now woke. Unreal.
 
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Speaking of culture, I read on social media elsewhere Dick Vitale is now calling for the end of the traditional post game handshakes. Welcome to the liberal's cancel culture, Dick (head)! Wasn't there a time when players from opposing teams individually met at center court for a handshake during player introductions.? I remember an Illinois player practically knocking Eric Gordon off his feet with a chest butt.
Yes - I remember the chest bump. Chester Frazier for Illinois.
 
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Howard will be remembered for this forever. IMO players and fans have been real dicks all year as well.

This conference is an embarrassment with bad officiating along with poor sportsmanship.
 
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I don’t know if this idea is borne of liberal cancel culture or not. But, either way, it’s a bad idea.
Maybe they should consider just doing simulated virtual handshakes on the Jumbotron overhead. Hell, let's bring back the pregame player handshakes the same way in the spirit of sportsmanship, whether real or imagined. Isn't this the way everything seems to be trending?
 
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Yes - I remember the chest bump. Chester Frazier for Illinois.
Thank you. I couldn't recall the name myself, a very fitting one, by the way, for the offense...Chester with the chest butt. Eric should have seen it coming in Champaign. Didn't Gordon drain a long three off the backboard in that particular game as a last laugh?
 
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Howard will be remembered for this forever. IMO players and fans have been real dicks all year as well.

This conference is an embarrassment with bad officiating along with poor sportsmanship.
The culture of the BIG is terrible right now, hopefully this incident will be a wakeup call before something really ugly happens.

Imagine (although you don't really need to imagine; just watch games) one of the top athletic players drives from the top of the key, takes three full strides puts a forearm in the throat of the defender, jams, then stares into the camera while the prancing ref whistles "and one".

One of these times this will result in an ugly assed fight.
 
The culture of the BIG is terrible right now, hopefully this incident will be a wakeup call before something really ugly happens.

Imagine (although you don't really need to imagine; just watch games) one of the top athletic players drives from the top of the key, takes three full strides puts a forearm in the throat of the defender, jams, then stares into the camera while the prancing ref whistles "and one".

One of these times this will result in an ugly assed fight.
This is why the NFL has wisely clamped down hard on taunting. I watch quite a bit of NFL and I think it’s been pretty effective at reducing that aggressive unsportsmanlike behavior.

Players can lose their team a game (and themselves a lot of money) by engaging in that nonsense. And they clearly know it now.
 
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This is why the NFL has wisely clamped down hard on taunting. I watch quite a bit of NFL and I think it’s been pretty effective at reducing that aggressive unsportsmanlike behavior.

Players can lose their team a game (and themselves a lot of money) by engaging in that nonsense. And they clearly know it now.
I watched part of the first half of the Rutger/pu game yesterday and a Rutger player got right in french fry guy's face and held up two fingers after he was called for his second foul. Fry guy handled it well and Rutger was T'd up as he should have been. Then Frenchy decides to grin and mock clap at him which would have been a T as well, but the refs were too busy doing cartwheels at mid-court to notice.
 
As if on cue, this just happened at a US Premier Hockey League game. It’s an amateur league situated between HS and college.

The offending player has been banned from that league for life. Hopefully other amateur and professional hockey sanctioning groups will honor the ban as well.

 
Thank you. I couldn't recall the name myself, a very fitting one, by the way, for the offense...Chester with the chest butt. Eric should have seen it coming in Champaign. Didn't Gordon drain a long three off the backboard in that particular game as a last laugh?
Have to go back to the archives but, yes, Eric Gordon (and family) were receiving a tsunami of heat and verbal assaults in Champaign in our contest there and Gordon buried a 3 late in the game on a bank shot and we won it.
If you recall, the whole Eric Gordon recruitment had all indicators pointing to Illinois. He may have been a soft verbal commit to them and then Sampson came in and scooped him up at the last minute and Bruce and friends were furious. They hated Gordon and Gordon Sr.
That “chest bump” game was in Bloomington and we won in OT. We swept them that season.
Hell, we only had four big 10 losses in the regular season and we finished 3rd in the conference behind Wisconsin and Purdue.
 
Have to go back to the archives but, yes, Eric Gordon (and family) were receiving a tsunami of heat and verbal assaults in Champaign in our contest there and Gordon buried a 3 late in the game on a bank shot and we won it.
If you recall, the whole Eric Gordon recruitment had all indicators pointing to Illinois. He may have been a soft verbal commit to them and then Sampson came in and scooped him up at the last minute and Bruce and friends were furious. They hated Gordon and Gordon Sr.
That “chest bump” game was in Bloomington and we won in OT. We swept them that season.
Hell, we only had four big 10 losses in the regular season and we finished 3rd in the conference behind Wisconsin and Purdue.
The chest bump game was in Champaign
 
Have to go back to the archives but, yes, Eric Gordon (and family) were receiving a tsunami of heat and verbal assaults in Champaign in our contest there and Gordon buried a 3 late in the game on a bank shot and we won it.
If you recall, the whole Eric Gordon recruitment had all indicators pointing to Illinois. He may have been a soft verbal commit to them and then Sampson came in and scooped him up at the last minute and Bruce and friends were furious. They hated Gordon and Gordon Sr.
That “chest bump” game was in Bloomington and we won in OT. We swept them that season.
Hell, we only had four big 10 losses in the regular season and we finished 3rd in the conference behind Wisconsin and Purdue.
Gordon family hired their own security to walk and sit with them in Champaign.
 
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