One of the problems with going electric vehicles and machines etc.
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Being honest, I've never used a charging station.
I would if I had them at a place where I'm parked for a good period of time like work.
I just really like getting home, clicking in the charger in my garage and then going inside vs waiting in line at Sam's trying to save $0.15 a gallon.
My commute is around 30 total so I still have 10 more miles of daily ev where I never have to use a drop of gas.
Charging stations are still vastly available. People read these propaganda articles without doing research. It’s easier than ever to go electric. Crazy how fast it happened. Full tank every morning.
Yeah iirc he said the bolts that held something rusted out.
Freaked me out but then he clarified that the most braking is done from the engine (a Victor said, one pedal driving).
There are many outstanding open deck platforms. While there has been a learning curve, companies like Elring Klinger are improving stopper layer design to stabilize & reduce head gasket failures on open deck platforms. Racing technology is also providing solutions to improve. You should be more concerned with the impact cafe regulations have had on low tension oil control ring packages & oil consumption.
I was shocked at the amount, particularly Tesla's fast charging (I don't think my volt can use the Tesla station).
Plus most ain't free (what is) and my experience so far is there are a billion apps that you need to sign up for to be able to use whatever specific station is there....and that seems like a pain in the ass.
It's most likely me being a moron with the current charging ecosystem but to your point, there are way more out there right now than people think (ie most hotels have a couple. As do a lot of government buildings).
I have a 110 charger in my car so technically I just need any outlet that's available (but 10 hours of time lol).
I have a 220 outlet at home so my full recharging time is around 4 hours.
I won’t argue with you on that. The other problem with newer engine design is the the inherent problems with burning carbon fuels. They lose energy in the process. They also still have carbon build up issues. Ford added port injection to keep valves clean. Seems a simple fix but it just adds more parts. Look I love my gas and oil burners but even I can’t argue they are dying out.
Ten years ago would you have thought electric car technology would move this fast or be this available?
Yeah I would use the 110 just to get a few more miles. Every little bit counts.
I have to take 20 hours of continuing education per year for work. I think I hit a couple hours tonight. Good stuff Victor.
It’s been in the works for decades, so yes, some of the constraints will continue to be moving forward.
A), i don't believe for 2 seconds 90% of the sht in the OP post of the thread.
B), almost 100 responses in, and not one person has answered the fundamental question in the threads opening post, what do you do when the combine or tractor battery is drained, and getting it to a charging station and letting it sit while it charges blows up the limited timeline to get the harvest in?
it shouldn't take 5 seconds for anyone to have solved that problem.
you just make the batteries modular, always have full spares ready to go back at your charging station, and have a vehicle well suited to switching them out.
the idea that John Deer, (or any big corp) is run by liberals was hilarious enough.
that no one at JD was capable of solving the dead battery/recharge time dilemma, was as well.
that said, no reason passenger cars or big trucks can't have modular battery swat out options as well.
said options could totally replace the main battery, or just supplement the main battery.
what are now gas station-convenient marts, become gas station-convenience mart-charging-swap out stations.
and if we have easily swappable modular batteries and swapping/charging stations, as we now have gas filling stations, no more need to have gas generator backups or gas engines at all in EVs.
now the question becomes, what about John Deer saying swapping out the battery voids the warranty on a million dollar piece of farm equipment, just like replacing that bad processor or board yourself now does, so instead when your $600,000 tractor or $900,000 combine breaks down due to a bad chip, (same problem i had with my Cherry 2000), you can't replace it yourself without voiding the warrany, and have to have a flatbed haul it back to the dealer 90 miles away, where it sits for 2-3 weeks waiting to be fixed by the dealer who gets 90% his service requests at harvest time, and can't staff for that anymore than IU can have enough restrooms in Memorial Stadium to accommodate everyone wanting to go at the same time.
meanwhile the crop rots in the field.
we need freedom to repair laws, but no doubt the Supremes would strike those down.
B), almost 100 responses in, and not one person has answered the fundamental question in the threads opening post, what do you do when the combine or tractor battery is drained, and getting it to a charging station and letting it sit while it charges blows up the limited timeline to get the harvest in?
it shouldn't take 5 seconds for anyone to have solved that problem.
you just make the batteries modular, always have full spares ready to go back at your charging station, and have a vehicle well suited to switching them out.
the idea that John Deer, (or any big corp) is run by liberals was hilarious enough.
that no one at JD was capable of solving the dead battery/recharge time dilemma, was as well.
that said, no reason passenger cars or big trucks can't have modular battery swat out options as well.
said options could totally replace the main battery, or just supplement the main battery.
what are now gas station-convenient marts, become gas station-convenience mart-charging-swap out stations.
and if we have easily swappable modular batteries and swapping/charging stations, as we now have gas filling stations, no more need to have gas generator backups or gas engines at all in EVs.
now the question becomes, what about John Deer saying swapping out the battery voids the warranty on a million dollar piece of farm equipment, just like replacing that bad processor or board yourself now does, so instead when your $600,000 tractor or $900,000 combine breaks down due to a bad chip, (same problem i had with my Cherry 2000), you can't replace it yourself without voiding the warrany, and have to have a flatbed haul it back to the dealer 90 miles away, where it sits for 2-3 weeks waiting to be fixed by the dealer who gets 90% his service requests at harvest time, and can't staff for that anymore than IU can have enough restrooms in Memorial Stadium to accommodate everyone wanting to go at the same time.
meanwhile the crop rots in the field.
we need freedom to repair laws, but no doubt the Supremes would strike those down.
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I thought I knew stuff. What is this "open deck" thing you guys are talking about? Some kind of head/block configuration?
To answer your question the new ford lightning and hybrid version of the f150 can charge battery to battery on the road. So you charge it enough to get it back to the barn. This is all logistical stuff that already has an answer it just has to be improved and implemented. How fast that happens who knows. As far as chips and programming goes the field service mechanics already do 90% of repairs/warranty in the field. I’ve replaced damn near every component in field. They will make this work. Battery exchange in some instances makes sense. 2 battery packs per machine. Also could add extra to the actual attachments and trailer implements. Most farm implement dealers ramp up during harvest. Every warm body is all over the place with any warm body fixing and supporting during harvest. I know guys who get stationed at hotels for a month during that time.
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Block casting around the cylinders and mating surfaces. People that modify/race these newer designs hate them. They look for the older closed deck blocks. The cylinder walls are less stable and have less gasket area for more boost. Anyway. They might be ok for the 150,000 mile target but that’s about it. Could that change in the future? 🤷🏻
Yep good stuff. I don't understand most of it. I can't change a battery on the smoke alarms. I just poke them off the wall with a broom stick to break them. But it's been educational even only understanding the themes
Victor you just earned your place in the Cooler Hall of Fame! Along with Ranger and Aloha.
that doesn't address the time issue, which was the crux of the OP.
getting the equipment back to barn wasn't the problem addressed in the OP.
swappable batteries is a much better option imo for both the farm equip thing, and everyday personal cars, and swap stations as we now have gas stations, totally removes any need for hybrids at all.
that said, swappable modular battery also addresses a fundemental problems with EVs never addressed anywhere, or in any discussions.
the average car on the road today is over 12 yrs old.
and most people can't afford new cars.
making batteries modular and easily swappable, solves both those issues.
and eliminates the need for hybrids, and all the added costs of the gas powered side of hybrids.
You know going back to this comment. Over the road truckers have 10 hour resets. Of course this won’t work for team driving but single hotshot trucks could work in the future. 11 hours on the road and ten hour charge/reset. Plus I’ll assume the trailers will have battery packs too.
Only way to answer that question is with specs. So no. You can’t fully answer that. I did answer as best I could. And electric cars will have degraded batteries after 12 years but we have that answer already. Nissan leafs are still going. The first gen batteries suck but are still going. I mean…do most people take a 12 year old car on long road trips? I sure wouldn’t.
Yeah, I was just reading along and then, all of a sudden...BOOM, I have no idea what's going on.
A), what question?
B) what specs?
C), what did i not fully answer?
D), no, we haven't really already solved the old degraded battery questions have we.
E), almost everyone with a 12 yr plus old car takes it on long trips.
did you think they just use their new Ferrrari instead when they go out of town.
and George Carlin says if the average age of cars on the rd is 12 yrs, then half are older than that.
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I see we aren’t going to see eye to eye. Obviously the OP is full of crap so that’s why this thread turned the way it did. I’ll give the mic to you.
Every time I think I'm pretty good at something some sonofabitch shows up and shows me what a plebeian I really am.
Your first mistake is to believe what the OP posted is a real story. I read the same thing on Facebook at least 6 months ago and I realized it's the same kind of concocted story people make up to tell you how bad things are getting probably with some creative editing by someone with the oil industry. There's no way electric will be viable with agriculture for machinery that is only used for just a few weeks a year. Maybe at some point but certainly not now without a better means of recharging in a large field miles away from where the farmer's live.
Right. But you have to appreciate the source. This isn't stay at home Pete talking in platitudes and generalities and nonsense with his soft manicured nails. Ze. This is an industry man. Okay. An oil man. A man who has gained expertise in the energy field BY WORKING WITH HIS HANDS AND GETTING DIRTY. A man that seamlessly goes from the garage twisting off rusted bolts to put in a new battery THAT HE MADE HIMSELF to the oil fields of the Dakotas where he shares a shed with six other men all on cots. Up at 4 am to turn on the hoses or dozers or whatever they use.
When Victor showed up to the site and they asked for his resume he just showed them his hands and went to work.
Americans are still out there. You lose faith with all the nerds and paper pushers on this board but thanks to Victor we know there's still hope
They drive their new Tesla.....
Except in Commiefornia, which cannot produce electricity to avoid rolling blackouts at this time.
Imagine...your new electric car in the garage in Commiefornia.....needs a charge, because you've had no electricity for three days and have used your battery power for work, school, groceries, doctor etc.....
Oh snap, a fire breaks out, your new electric vehicle in your garage won't run, and is soon to be a cinder, along with everything else you own...
And possibly your loved ones, too.
I laughed out loud at the poster suggesting a battery pack swap out on farm equipment, like a 24 volt Sawzall....
seeing eye to eye is one thing.
you responded to my post with gobbledygook that had nothing to do with anything i said, and didn't even make sense.
when i nicely asked you to explain what in the world you were saying, you go all hurt snowflake on me.
and what exactly is it i said you disagree with?
After he showed me up with all that open deck shit, I'm thinking he's one of those toxic manly men.
Those types are terrible for the growth of soccer. There's like one club in all of the Dakotas
Again hard to fit us all in just a few tents
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