I think the HBO Chernobyl was deliberately alarmist. Chernobyl was a very serious issue, but it was also very unique in a number of ways and doesn’t have much relationship to here. The show was entertaining though.
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I'll wait to see what COHVAC has to say about the subject.That is what I always thought also but from what i've read they are safer than going into a lot of restaurants because the air circulation on a plane is basically in a circular motion around each row of seats. From what I've read the air on a plane is exchange with fresh air every 3-5 minutes on average.
Yes. Nuclear power is a good example of message manipulation (brainwashing?) on a large scale.
Because chain pulling is so much fun, how does it feel to be a racist conservative? I will ask that question on your chain pulling to remind you how much fun it is.
I mentioned elsewhere I just lost two friends, I admit I am cranky. If you can't be an adult and discuss like an adult then I damn well am not. What have you done to subjugate minorities today?
Whatever yanks your chain.
If you are intending to discuss nuclear justice, I missed your point.
Couple of additional comments:
1) Part of the problem with the nuclear waste / recycling facilities is not the facilities themselves, but the transport involved. There are plenty of areas where you can locate the plant and give the people in the area enough tax incentives to live with it, but getting all the waste there by car or even by train tends to be the sticking point. Semis get in accidents and trains occasionally derail. When that happens, it's a crap-show to clean up. So not only do you have to get the approval of the location where the facility is, you have to get the approval of every state between the plant and the recycling facility to allow the material to be transported through it.
2) One of the bigger problems cost-wise with nuclear power plants is security. Since 9/11, security costs for existing power plants have skyrocketed. As noted up-thread, the start-up costs for nuclear are extreme (even over the course of a decade). With security costs rising, the rate-of-return is even longer on investments from energy companies. It's kinda stupid, because outside of a major natural disaster (ie, a tsunami that kills 18,000 by itself), it would take a significant force of terrorists to cause a plant to go into meltdown. But it's possible, so therefore they have to have the ability to defeat that.
3) My understanding is that the problem with fusion (at this time) is not that we can't make a fusion reaction, the problem is finding a way to capture that generated heat to be used in the standard steam generation / turbine process. You can't just run water pipes through the fusion containment vessel.
1) Part of the problem with the nuclear waste / recycling facilities is not the facilities themselves, but the transport involved. There are plenty of areas where you can locate the plant and give the people in the area enough tax incentives to live with it, but getting all the waste there by car or even by train tends to be the sticking point. Semis get in accidents and trains occasionally derail. When that happens, it's a crap-show to clean up. So not only do you have to get the approval of the location where the facility is, you have to get the approval of every state between the plant and the recycling facility to allow the material to be transported through it.
2) One of the bigger problems cost-wise with nuclear power plants is security. Since 9/11, security costs for existing power plants have skyrocketed. As noted up-thread, the start-up costs for nuclear are extreme (even over the course of a decade). With security costs rising, the rate-of-return is even longer on investments from energy companies. It's kinda stupid, because outside of a major natural disaster (ie, a tsunami that kills 18,000 by itself), it would take a significant force of terrorists to cause a plant to go into meltdown. But it's possible, so therefore they have to have the ability to defeat that.
3) My understanding is that the problem with fusion (at this time) is not that we can't make a fusion reaction, the problem is finding a way to capture that generated heat to be used in the standard steam generation / turbine process. You can't just run water pipes through the fusion containment vessel.
We also still can't get net positive energy from any design. I know it was in the news a while back that we did, but that was kind of misleading. The reaction itself was net positive, but the energy produced was still far less than the energy it took to run the machine.
Nuclear power should be leading our policy discussions on a lot of fronts…environmental, industrial, economic, energy
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