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Peggy Noonan . . .

I don’t know who she is and I didn’t read the article. I did watch a fair amount of the convention. Not the politicians other than trump and his grand daughter. She was a sweet kid. Trump is a terrible public speaker. If there are teleprompters it’s hard to believe because it feels like a stream of consciousness with an odd combo of too much adderall and edibles. His speech was awful.

Sometimes the messenger matters more than the message. I read comments belittling the hulkster and Dana white. That’s odd to me. They are great Americans. How much joy have they brought to people. Helped economies. Contributed to employment. And embodied that fighting spirit. Trump said fight fight fight. He brought in two fighters.

Hulk is probably one of the most recognized people in the world. Had nothing. Talked the Brisco brothers into getting hiro to let him train to try to get into Florida regional wresting. He’d wrestle 400 times a year. Was in six plane crashes. Countless ortho surgeries. Lost half his earnings in a divorce. Just keeps fighting.

Dana white. Boxing trainer in vegas. Befriended a fellow boxing fan who he trained fertitta whose pop was a casino executive. Talked them into buying ufc. Built something huge from it. Fighting all the way and saying what he believes not woke filtered nonsense.

Fighting Americans. Trump hulk Dana white. That’s America and trump played it perfectly save his own speech

I'd put big money on her on the golf course against Trump, and I'm not joking.

She's pretty good.
 
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Noonan? She's old af.
I bet she was really something before electricity.

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Transformative desires: is relative.

Largest social safety net: there was a time when we didn't have one. That's why we have it. Churches were responsible for the sick and elderly. Franklin Graham et al won't go back, and is a large reason why the conservative movement was allowed to return.

Wealth redistribution: is a necessity. See the guilded age. The argument should be over the amount of redistribution. And should occur through wages and progressive tax structure. Taxes should be viewed as an economic instrument and not a tool to distribute fairness. It's about economic efficiency. (I've always been against cradle to grave welfare.)
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Your little screed is nonsense.
 
Mainstream denominations are dying because they stopped teaching what is actually in the Bible.

Non-denominations are booming because people want truth. We are planting churches all over in every city, town, state and people are0 flocking to basic expository teaching rather than TED talks that blasphemies Gods Word.
My mainstream Evangelical Congregational Baptist Church is thriving right now. Private Faith-based schools are popping up like Spring morels. The young shall lead the way.
 
. . .has never been a Trump fan. Her conservatism is as genuine as her forthright honesty about politics. After noting she supported neither major party for the last two elections, she heralded the GOP convention (and by implication the party) as stupendous and a triumph. The conversion of the GOP to a populist national party is complete, irreversible, and Trumpian. She seems to approve.

The convention was wild in the way things that are alive are wild. Harmeet Dhillon covered her head with a shawl to sing a Sikh prayer; Amber Rose, the beautiful young woman with face tattoos being cheered for speaking about what it is to support Donald Trump in her media world, and why she is willing to pay the price; Shabbos Kestenbaum, the Harvard grad suing Harvard for discrimination over its failures after Oct. 7; J.D. Vance’s mother throwing kisses to the crowd as it chanted her name, and her son saying maybe they’ll have her 10th anniversary clean and sober in the White House. The citizens were so much more eloquent than the professionals.​

And of course Sean O’Brien, head of the Teamsters, railing against corporate greed to a Republican convention whose delegates warmly applauded.​

And none of that was even the headline. The headline: This wasn’t a divided party, it was a party united. It wasn’t only Mr. Trump’s party, it was an explicitly Trumpian party.​

We saw something epochal: the finalization and ratification of a change in the essential nature of one of the two major political parties of the world’s most powerful nation. It is now a populist, working-class, nationalist party. That is where its sympathies, identification and affiliation lie. There will be shifts, stops and accommodations in the future, no party ever has a clear line, history intervenes, but it is changed, and there will be no going back.​

Read the whole thing.

Hopefully this survives 98 days of disinformation campaign… and the old saw you can’t fool all the people all of the time holds true. Equity for all is a road to misery. If no one can get ahead … the invisible hand from the Wealth of Nations got hand cuffed behind the back.
 
Bro, I grew up watching Georgia Championship Wrestling on TBS on Saturday mornings. And I grew up in Michigan! More kids need the opportunity to watch saturday a.m. wrestling on the Superstation
The best!!!! We had wrestling at the chase followed by soccer made in Germany. A one hour show 🤣. You didn’t get the entire game
 
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I think you are 100% incorrect. There is nothing new about conservatism shown by the GOP convention. What is new is the political and social environment in which conservatism operates.

The GOP swing towards individual populism is a ringing indictment of the group think, obedient, and cancel culture the left’s highly- credentialed know-things have given us.

The GOP, and Trump, are dragging us back to where individuals mean something and government of, by, and for the people also means something.
What is cancel culture but an extension of capitalism and the right to choose and the exercise of free speech? Was not cancel culture used with Bud Light? Didn't bother me a bit. It was tried on the Barbie movie--except it didn't work.

What is group think? Obedience? I'd like some specific examples.

"The GOP, and Trump, are dragging us back to where individuals mean something?" Again, I'm struggling with concepts here that have no concrete application --just words on a page.

So many boogeymen.
 
The best!!!! We had wrestling at the chase followed by soccer made in Germany. A one hour show 🤣. You didn’t get the entire game
As i understand it, wrestling at the Chase was a pretty huge deal back in the day. Sill, there was something special about watching on Saturday a.m with a studio of wrestling fans and watching a bunch of old women yell and scream at Ole Anderson
 
As i understand it, wrestling at the Chase was a pretty huge deal back in the day. Sill, there was something special about watching on Saturday a.m with a studio of wrestling fans and watching a bunch of old women yell and scream at Ole Anderson
It was indeed. I met all those guys. Andre. King kong Brody. Ric flair. Dick the bruiser. I had a messed up uncle from Vietnam that was a cabbie and a real funny drunk who befriended all those guys and would drive them around
 
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It was indeed. I met all those guys. Andre. King kong Brody. Ric flair. Dick the bruiser. I had a messed up uncle from Vietnam that was a cabbie and a real funny drunk who befriended all those guys and would drive them around
I met Flair at a Blackhawks game with Bob Probert. Probert was awesome. Flair, not so much.
 
Bro, I grew up watching Georgia Championship Wrestling on TBS on Saturday mornings. And I grew up in Michigan! More kids need the opportunity to watch saturday a.m. wrestling on the Superstation
Mine was Championship Wrestling from Memphis, Tennessee. Jerry the King, the Fabulous Ones, Jeff Jarrett, and the goat... Andy Kaufman.
 
Definitely. I was almost exclusively a mid Atlantic and GCW but the Memphis shit with Andy Kaufman was amazing
I’m obsessed with start ups and love watching documentaries on same. Could you imagine the personalities that had to be dealt with to consolidate all that shit like crazy McMahon did. You’d have to have the perfect combo of ignorance narcissism elephant balls intelligence and alligator skin
 
What is cancel culture but an extension of capitalism and the right to choose and the exercise of free speech? Was not cancel culture used with Bud Light? Didn't bother me a bit. It was tried on the Barbie movie--except it didn't work.

What is group think? Obedience? I'd like some specific examples.

"The GOP, and Trump, are dragging us back to where individuals mean something?" Again, I'm struggling with concepts here that have no concrete application --just words on a page.

So many boogeymen.
Most recent example is the lockdowns, masks, distancing and other pandemic “expert” advice.

This got ugly with vaccine mandates and caused real damage.

And this.



Capitalism? Dont know how you learned it, but what happened to Jennifer Sey at Levi’s doesn’t fit any definition of capitalism that I know about.

Public education is all about group think and obedience. Americans are becoming more stupid because of this

 
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Most recent example is the lockdowns, masks, distancing and other pandemic “expert” advice.

This got ugly with vaccine mandates and caused real damage.

And this.



Capitalism? Dont know how you learned it, but what happened to Jennifer Sey at Levi’s doesn’t fit any definition of capitalism that I know about.

Public education is all about group think and obedience. Americans are becoming more stupid because of this


I love how you, a lawyer, put quotes around "expert" in reference to people that dictated a pandemic playbook. I'm always baffled by the continuing education of internet doctors over guys and gals who do this for a living. Seems to me that you would also be a groupthink victim then because you part of continuing large segment of the population that has been entraptured and trapped by their own dogma. Groupthink if you will.

I'm sure you realize that the United States' history with pandemics is limited, but generally the practice for dealing with pandemics stems from how the US responded to the spanish flu. Masks. School closures. Social distancing, blah blah. Nobody lied to you, well, except the great pumpkin

So the woke mob killed Jennifer Sey huh? Perahps Ms. Sey would have been better served as employee (and part of a leadership team), if she hadn't called out employees for being fat tubs of shit. Weird that she resigned from Levi's and never got a drop of compensation. You can't be an executive at a publically traded company and be abusive. Unless you are Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk which are nothing more than a cult of personality business.

What is woke? Seriously, it has this ambgious meaning that seems to change. Was Jesus woke? I can take the 9 beautitudes in Mathew and the 4 and look and rightfully think nearly all would be chastized for being woke.
 
Definitely. I was almost exclusively a mid Atlantic and GCW but the Memphis shit with Andy Kaufman was amazing

I read GCW, which is a very, very different style of wrestling fed today and then realized you were talking about Georgia.

Been to a couple GCW shows. One dude got thrown off a stage and another went through glass that had been lit on fire.

It was ****ing nuts.
 
I love how you, a lawyer, put quotes around "expert" in reference to people that dictated a pandemic playbook. I'm always baffled by the continuing education of internet doctors over guys and gals who do this for a living. Seems to me that you would also be a groupthink victim then because you part of continuing large segment of the population that has been entraptured and trapped by their own dogma. Groupthink if you will.

I'm sure you realize that the United States' history with pandemics is limited, but generally the practice for dealing with pandemics stems from how the US responded to the spanish flu. Masks. School closures. Social distancing, blah blah. Nobody lied to you, well, except the great pumpkin

So the woke mob killed Jennifer Sey huh? Perahps Ms. Sey would have been better served as employee (and part of a leadership team), if she hadn't called out employees for being fat tubs of shit. Weird that she resigned from Levi's and never got a drop of compensation. You can't be an executive at a publically traded company and be abusive. Unless you are Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk which are nothing more than a cult of personality business.

What is woke? Seriously, it has this ambgious meaning that seems to change. Was Jesus woke? I can take the 9 beautitudes in Mathew and the 4 and look and rightfully think nearly all would be chastized for being woke.
Every lawyer has run across “experts” and experts. Denying that distinction is itself a problem.

The point of the pandemic example isn’t to argue the merits of this response. Instead, our pandemic response is a pretty good example of a world dominated by distant authoritarian elites pushing uniformity, obedience and suppression of individualism. Hell, California even passed a statute threatening the license if MD’s who deviated from certain commands.

You can call recognizing the value of individualism and individual ideas a dogma if you want to, but that is the opposite of dogma for me.
 
What is woke? Seriously, it has this ambgious meaning that seems to change. Was Jesus woke? I can take the 9 beautitudes in Mathew and the 4 and look and rightfully think nearly all would be chastized for being woke.
Woke is how morons or over-educated incompetents believe they advance important social causes.
 
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I love how you, a lawyer, put quotes around "expert" in reference to people that dictated a pandemic playbook. I'm always baffled by the continuing education of internet doctors over guys and gals who do this for a living.

You weren't around in the COHVAC days, were you? Good times.
 
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Every lawyer has run across “experts” and experts. Denying that distinction is itself a problem.

The point of the pandemic example isn’t to argue the merits of this response. Instead, our pandemic response is a pretty good example of a world dominated by distant authoritarian elites pushing uniformity, obedience and suppression of individualism. Hell, California even passed a statute threatening the license if MD’s who deviated from certain commands.

You can call recognizing the value of individualism and individual ideas a dogma if you want to, but that is the opposite of dogma for me.
So basically you believe that we are living an Orwellian society, dominated by the radical left, and your savior is everything MAGA. No groupthink there at all. If my memory is correct, you have supported the right side of the equation with all the fervor of zealot.

Please tell me what individual rights/ideas you believe are threatened. Would it be your right to have an abortion without government interference? I would agree with you. Seems to me you pining for a civil libertarianism? The oldest Christian church, the Catholic Church, even addresses individualism: "if we pray the Our Father sincerely, we leave individualism behind, because the love that we receive frees us ... our divisions and oppositions have to be overcome". Obviously, there is more than one meaning to individualism.
 
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Woke is how morons or over-educated incompetents believe they advance important social causes.
So undereducated or "just sufficiently educated enough" non-morons who advance similar ideas/concepts who not be woke?

Doing a little digging on the phrase "woke" as applied to society.

1923, Marcus Garvey, a Jamaican activist wrote "Wake up, Ethiopia! Wake up Africa" in an effort to call the Black diaspora to social activism. https://www.naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/. Famous blues singer and musician Lead Belly wrote "Scottsboro Boys" as warning to Blacks to stay wary. https://www.naacpldf.org/woke-black-bad/

1962 William Melvin Kelley wrote an essay about white people appropriating Black slang terms and destroying their meaning. https://www.nytimes.com/1962/05/20/...o-mickey-mouse-can-be-expected-to-follow.html

Back to the current era. DeSantis said the definition is "[g]enerally, the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” Then in his book he added another definition “What constitutes ‘woke’ is open to debate, but for the left, a fundamental attribute of wokeness is the subordination of facts and evidence to anecdote and ideology.”

Tommy Tuberville was asked to define woke, and naturally stepped all over himself and just talked about transgender, school curriculum and church-state separation.

I could go on and on about the the myriad definitions, including your goofy definition. But it seems to me that if you keep adopting different definitions of the "woke", it becomes a bit of a tautology and everything must be true. How much cross-over is there between woke and your definition and application of individualism?
 
I read GCW, which is a very, very different style of wrestling fed today and then realized you were talking about Georgia.

Been to a couple GCW shows. One dude got thrown off a stage and another went through glass that had been lit on fire.

It was ****ing nuts.

you are a 70s and 80s guy right? The first thing you should have recalled is Ole Anderson very calmly telling the television audience that he was going to break arms and necks at the Omni--and you 100% believed him. Then again, I also believed back then that Abdullah the Butcher was really from the Sudan and not some guy from Alabama named Larry Shreve....Ignorance was wonderful back then
 
you are a 70s and 80s guy right? The first thing you should have recalled is Ole Anderson very calmly telling the television audience that he was going to break arms and necks at the Omni--and you 100% believed him. Then again, I also believed back then that Abdullah the Butcher was really from the Sudan and not some guy from Alabama named Larry Shreve....Ignorance was wonderful back then

I was born in 82, but yes, I'm in tune with what you're saying.
 
Nobody knew...at least on the outside.

Iron Claw makes Kevin the alpha dog of the crew, but circa 1981-1988, Kerry definitely seemed the #1 Von Erich. Maybe because all the chicks dug him?
David was the guy that was anointed as the next NWA champion until he passed away. I think Kerry was the better athlete and looked like a million bucks and I think the NWA felt like that was their Hulk Hogan answer. Except Kerry loved the drugs. Such a shame.

Their family could not have dealt with more tragedy. The oldest kid Jack died when he was a just a little kid from electrocution; Mike committed suicide; Kerry committed suicide; Chris, the youngest brother, committed suicide and the old man thought it would be totally normal for a 5'4" kid who suffered from such severe asthma that he stopped growing and had brittle bones, to wrestle....6 kids, 5 deaths before their parents and 4 of them were suicides. Fritz, who was a helluva good football player at SMU, had been married for 42 years to the same woman (and mom of all the boys), until she divorced him right after Chris committed suicide.

Terrible story. In spite of this, Kevin encouraged his two sons to take up wrestling. Same with Kerry's wife who encouraged her daughters to take up wrestling. I cannot fathom the rationale.
 
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