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Cutting degree programs at IU

Bach degree In anything from anywhere. Straight to sell drugs. Med equipment. Benefits management. Whatever. That was the right play
I agree. Law school was so stupid. It's on the opposite end of the same stupid spectrum as med school. Doctors are artificially bottlenecked, making it too hard to break in, but lawyers are like an open tap that no one remembers how to close, meaning there are too many of us and we are too loud and too impatient. Business was the right move. But when I was in school, I thought business was for dumbasses who didn't know how to do something important. Can't believe I was that big of an idiot.

I mean, obviously I can now. I was 20. Of course I was an idiot. But when I actually was 20, it seemed so clearly the other way.
 
I agree. Law school was so stupid. It's on the opposite end of the same stupid spectrum as med school. Doctors are artificially bottlenecked, making it too hard to break in, but lawyers are like an open tap that no one remembers how to close, meaning there are too many of us and we are too loud and too impatient. Business was the right move. But when I was in school, I thought business was for dumbasses who didn't know how to do something important. Can't believe I was that big of an idiot.

I mean, obviously I can now. I was 20. Of course I was an idiot. But when I actually was 20, it seemed so clearly the other way.
Oh, the stories I could tell you, Goat.

Whenever we meet up for a beer, we'll have lots to talk about.
 
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I agree. Law school was so stupid. It's on the opposite end of the same stupid spectrum as med school. Doctors are artificially bottlenecked, making it too hard to break in, but lawyers are like an open tap that no one remembers how to close, meaning there are too many of us and we are too loud and too impatient. Business was the right move. But when I was in school, I thought business was for dumbasses who didn't know how to do something important. Can't believe I was that big of an idiot.

I mean, obviously I can now. I was 20. Of course I was an idiot. But when I actually was 20, it seemed so clearly the other way.
Co-sign. Tho I’ve tried cases in probably a dozen states and seen it all and in our defense we really only missed it by like a decade plus. 10-15 years older it was a very different profession. Nice. Much better. On both sides. P and D. How could we have known that
 
Oh, the stories I could tell you, Goat.

Whenever we meet up for a beer, we'll have lots to talk about.
Actually, just to get my current philosophy out there honestly, as much as I loved IUB, I think even business is the wrong move. If I could go back in time and give 16-year old me advice, it would be this: Forget being smart. Forget learning everything. In the future, you'll be able to catch up with this thing called a "podcast." But for now, sign up for that high school annex downtown that every city of a reasonable size has, where you get a head start on learning a trade. Electrical is a good place to go, but whatever you want. Learn a trade, and jump into in the minute you graduate. You'll be making f*** you money while your lawyer friends are still coming in early on Saturday morning to gather up the partners' suits to take to the dry cleaners for them.
 
Actually, just to get my current philosophy out there honestly, as much as I loved IUB, I think even business is the wrong move. If I could go back in time and give 16-year old me advice, it would be this: Forget being smart. Forget learning everything. In the future, you'll be able to catch up with this thing called a "podcast." But for now, sign up for that high school annex downtown that every city of a reasonable size has, where you get a head start on learning a trade. Electrical is a good place to go, but whatever you want. Learn a trade, and jump into in the minute you graduate. You'll be making f*** you money while your lawyer friends are still coming in early on Saturday morning to gather up the partners' suits to take to the dry cleaners for them.
Lot of truth in that but also different risk. You’re only a couple of herniated discs from being fckd
 
Actually, just to get my current philosophy out there honestly, as much as I loved IUB, I think even business is the wrong move. If I could go back in time and give 16-year old me advice, it would be this: Forget being smart. Forget learning everything. In the future, you'll be able to catch up with this thing called a "podcast." But for now, sign up for that high school annex downtown that every city of a reasonable size has, where you get a head start on learning a trade. Electrical is a good place to go, but whatever you want. Learn a trade, and jump into in the minute you graduate. You'll be making f*** you money while your lawyer friends are still coming in early on Saturday morning to gather up the partners' suits to take to the dry cleaners for them.
I just can’t get over my ex stoker’s 33 year old ****boi barstool hubby knocking on half a mil a year with a Bach from nowhere renting stupid cars. It’s sickening.
 
Fair, but instead of having to hunt for the hot secretary as a side piece, you can just pick up a chick at the bowling alley.
This dipshit hubby. Drives a $85k truck. Free. Co paid for. Season tix to every pro team. Country club membership. Endless vacation time. Full benes. Matching etc. Worked ten miserable years. That’s it. 33 is a kid. By 43 will have a 4 million dollar plus house.

WTF. With a Bach from nowhere. Management trainee bs.

I’m truly the happiest guy around. I work with all my friends. Haven’t had a boss in 20 years. Never set an alarm. I’m good. But that shit absolutely infuriates me. It’s the one thing that drives me nuts
 
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Hope the philosophy dept isn’t going to get axed:

Hope so too. My daughter is a philosophy major.

Maybe the government doesn’t want you to be able to think for yourself.
 
This dipshit hubby. Drives a $85k truck. Free. Co paid for. Season tix to every pro team. Country club membership. Endless vacation time. Full benes. Matching etc. Worked ten miserable years. That’s it. 33 is a kid. By 43 will have a 4 million dollar plus house.

WTF. With a Bach from nowhere. Management trainee bs.

I’m truly the happiest guy around. I work with all my friends. Haven’t had a boss in 20 years. Never set an alarm. I’m good. But that shit absolutely infuriates me. It’s the one thing that drives me nuts
Don't forget the check you write every month for the kid that will eventually be calling him "Daddy."
 
Hope the philosophy dept isn’t going to get axed:

Is there any legal recourse if you’ve been at IU for a year or two having paid tuition and you’re majoring in philosophy for example and they drop the department?
 
The ultimate Maga irony is that universities are one of the true features of the United States economy. People from all over the world coming to our universities is one of the main drivers of the high cost of tuition. Supply and demand.
 
Bach degree In anything from anywhere. Straight to sell drugs. Med equipment. Benefits management. Whatever. That was the right play
Started Poly Sci with the idea (my Dad's) of going to Law School and getting into politics. I liked Econ, but the thought of law school wasn't my jam. What can you do with a Poli Sci degree if you're not a D1 soccer guy?

I flipped it to SPEA and did the Public Finance concentration with the idea that I could still get into Politics and make dad happy. A public policy class with Steve Goldsmith totally turned me off, so at graduation I ended up taking a sales gig.

I will never forget the disappointment in my Dad's voice when he learned what I was doing. "We sent you to college to be a Fŭcking salesman?".

In hindsight, I wouldn't have traded it for anything. I've made a good living. I have been able to do what I want with my schedule for my kids and my wife. I fish and hunt with current and former clients, so I know I'm at least tolerated if not respected.

It's basically owning my own business without the downside risk.
 
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The ultimate Maga irony is that universities are one of the true features of the United States economy. People from all over the world coming to our universities is one of the main drivers of the high cost of tuition. Supply and demand.
I had heard out of state students pay more and IU encourages them to come which can cut off in state students. So Indiana students have to find another route. It also could affect the enthusiasm in our sports because people from out of state/country are not emotionally invested like us home grown Hoosiers.
 
I had heard out of state students pay more and IU encourages them to come which can cut off in state students. So Indiana students have to find another route. It also could affect the enthusiasm in our sports because people from out of state/country are not emotionally invested like us home grown Hoosiers.
Oh I don’t think that’s true with sports. If you produce a winning program the out of state students will be just as invested in the winning. When I was in school Knight still had IU running high and all of my out of state friends were just as passionate about the team. And I’m sure they still want IU to return to glory on the court.
 
Started Poly Sci with the idea (my Dad's) of going to Law School and getting into politics. I liked Econ, but the thought to law school wasn't my jam. What can you do with a Poli Sci degree if you're not a D1 soccer guy?

I flipped it to SPEA and did the Public Finance concentration with the idea that I could still get into Politics and make dad happy. A public policy class with Steve Goldsmith totally turned me off, so at graduation I ended up taking a sales gig.

I will never forget the disappointment in my Dad's voice when he learned what I was doing. "We sent you to college to be Fŭcking salesman?".

In hindsight, I wouldn't have traded it for anything. I've made a good living. I have been able to do what I want with my schedule for my kids and my wife. I fish and hunt with current and former clients, so I know I'm at least tolerated if not respected.

It's basically owning my own business without the downside risk.
You did it right. That D1 soccer bit got me an immediate job offer at AB despite a poly sci degree. That’s what I should have done.

But who knows. They have a big HR department and might have had issues with how horny I get at work
 
Started Poly Sci with the idea (my Dad's) of going to Law School and getting into politics. I liked Econ, but the thought to law school wasn't my jam. What can you do with a Poli Sci degree if you're not a D1 soccer guy?

I flipped it to SPEA and did the Public Finance concentration with the idea that I could still get into Politics and make dad happy. A public policy class with Steve Goldsmith totally turned me off, so at graduation I ended up taking a sales gig.

I will never forget the disappointment in my Dad's voice when he learned what I was doing. "We sent you to college to be Fŭcking salesman?".

In hindsight, I wouldn't have traded it for anything. I've made a good living. I have been able to do what I want with my schedule for my kids and my wife. I fish and hunt with current and former clients, so I know I'm at least tolerated if not respected.

It's basically owning my own business without the downside risk.
Example #1 of why college is a waste

I wanted to be a wildlife biologist

Now im working in extrusion. Making pretty good money though. Good environment, good people . Being happy has value worth more than $$$
 
Started Poly Sci with the idea (my Dad's) of going to Law School and getting into politics. I liked Econ, but the thought to law school wasn't my jam. What can you do with a Poli Sci degree if you're not a D1 soccer guy?

I flipped it to SPEA and did the Public Finance concentration with the idea that I could still get into Politics and make dad happy. A public policy class with Steve Goldsmith totally turned me off, so at graduation I ended up taking a sales gig.

I will never forget the disappointment in my Dad's voice when he learned what I was doing. "We sent you to college to be Fŭcking salesman?".

In hindsight, I wouldn't have traded it for anything. I've made a good living. I have been able to do what I want with my schedule for my kids and my wife. I fish and hunt with current and former clients, so I know I'm at least tolerated if not respected.

It's basically owning my own business without the downside risk.
Your poor dad.

**** you, hooky. You should be miserable with the rest of us.
 
Example #1 of why college is a waste

I wanted to be a wildlife biologist

Now im working in extrusion. Making pretty good money though. Good environment, good people . Being happy has value worth more than $$$
I don't make a lot of money being a pastor, but it is fulfilling. If I was able to do it for free I'd still do it. Priceless
 
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Started Poly Sci with the idea (my Dad's) of going to Law School and getting into politics. I liked Econ, but the thought of law school wasn't my jam. What can you do with a Poli Sci degree if you're not a D1 soccer guy?

I flipped it to SPEA and did the Public Finance concentration with the idea that I could still get into Politics and make dad happy. A public policy class with Steve Goldsmith totally turned me off, so at graduation I ended up taking a sales gig.

I will never forget the disappointment in my Dad's voice when he learned what I was doing. "We sent you to college to be a Fŭcking salesman?".

In hindsight, I wouldn't have traded it for anything. I've made a good living. I have been able to do what I want with my schedule for my kids and my wife. I fish and hunt with current and former clients, so I know I'm at least tolerated if not respected.

It's basically owning my own business without the downside risk.
So do you consider yourself a salesman? I thought you were more into the IT side? Or marrying the two?

From what I know about your work, you seem to be more of a solution manager. That requires knowledge in a lot of areas.
 
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So do you consider yourself a salesman? I thought you were more into the IT side? Or marrying the two?

From what I know about your work, you seem to be more of a solution manager. That requires knowledge in a lot of areas.
I've always considered myself more of a consultant and consensus builder. You don't really sell the stuff we do, it's more about helping the entire organization buy and implement it.
 
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I've always considered myself more of a consultant and consensus builder. You don't really sell the stuff we do, it's more about helping the entire organization buy and implement it.
That's what I was thinking. Your sales skills probably help a lot with that, along with your ability to see the entire picture of what you're delivering.
 
Shoveling shit and working in the summer sun all day were my main motivators for my desire to go to college.
Throwing bales of hay in the barn on a 90 degree August day was good motivation. The summer in the meat packing plant was a great way to reinforce it.
 
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Throwing bales of hay in the barn on a 90 degree August day was good motivation. The summer in the meat packing plant was a great way to reinforce it.
I suppose kids still work hard on the farm today, but some of that stuff we did would be considered child abuse. lol

I'm surprised your dad didn't want you to go to Purdue and be an Ag Econ major or something. You could have joined the Farm House frat! (one of my classmates was President of that frat)

By the way, I talked to DIck's widow a few weeks ago - she's on hospice - and told her you knew Dick. She wanted to know all about you. lol
 
That's what I was thinking. Your sales skills probably help a lot with that, along with your ability to see the entire picture of what you're delivering.
Once I figured out how to talk to CFOs about it, an entirely new door opened.

I don't spend time with people who aren't motivated and don't get it either. If I'm going to waste my time, it's gonna be wasted on something I enjoy doing.
 
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