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NBC is on it. Hunter Biden has tax problems.

Prove it, "religious" guy passing the plate while lecturing the public.

Exodus 20:16.
So you too are a bigot? I'm the farthest away from religious on here and if that is all VPM talked about then fine. He rarely actually talks religion compared to what I hear about.
 
Earlier on the AOTF someone had pictures of galaxies and I did say, "My Daddy made those". But usually I respond to others who make religious comments.
Once again the mentality on here in general. Its ok to bigot certain people but not others. Never heard you asking for money .
 
Once again the mentality on here in general. Its ok to bigot certain people but not others. Never heard you asking for money .
In 21 yrs of pastoral ministry I have never asked for a raise and never knew what others gave. My goal as far as money is concerned is if we are in the black and did I get my paycheck. I'm not a money grubber, just a poor guy who has bills.
 
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All of this was in Hunter Biden's lap top. Aren't you aware of what they have found in it?
Did the pillow guy tell you what was on the laptop? He had that right next to his proof of election fraud and Jewish space lasers
 
And we’ll note that OS still hasn’t addressed the misleading nature of his original post referencing Cohen. Just pedantic nonsense from the two of you as always.
If I had posted what you claim that I posted, then indeed retractions, backtracks, and or apologies would be warranted on my behalf. But I did not post what you claim that I posted. I made true statements that you then misrepresented.

Let’s review. I will restate my claims. Since reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suit, I will try to be even more clear.

Donald J. Trump has faced a long list of accusations of personal sexual misconduct. I listed at least three separate categories of alleged misconduct: accusations of infidelity, accusations of sexual assault, and accusations of rape.

I then commented, based on the public statements of his former “fixer” who may have even written a book on the subject that I haven’t read, that Donald J. Trump has a long habit of paying for the silence of those who have accused him of misdeeds. One notorious example, which I alluded to, was paying off Stormy Daniels. That payout, according to Cohen, was made using campaign funds. As an aside, Cohen seems to have been convicted and jailed for crimes that he committed at the behest of his boss.

That’s it. That’s the totality what said, though I did not name either Cohen or Daniels in my initial post.

Then you came along making the ridiculous claim that I had asserted that Stormy Daniels was a victim of rape or sexual assault. I made no such claim. Quite obviously, her allegation falls into the third category that I had mentioned (and that you omitted when you mischaracterized my post): infidelity.

Further, I made a follow-up post, adding clarity: "Cohen was crystal clear as to the infidelity hush money payoff to Stormy D and the use of campaign funds".

So… let’s recap. I made accurate statements that you then misconstrued, attacked, and made demands that I retract, backtrack, or apologize for. You used the debate tactic known as creating and attacking a strawman. It is a tactic that someone tends to use when the truth doesn’t favor their position.

Thus, I apologize, on your behalf, for the misstatements that you made regarding my post.
 
If I had posted what you claim that I posted, then indeed retractions, backtracks, and or apologies would be warranted on my behalf. But I did not post what you claim that I posted. I made true statements that you then misrepresented.

Let’s review. I will restate my claims. Since reading comprehension doesn’t seem to be your strong suit, I will try to be even more clear.

Donald J. Trump has faced a long list of accusations of personal sexual misconduct. I listed at least three separate categories of alleged misconduct: accusations of infidelity, accusations of sexual assault, and accusations of rape.

I then commented, based on the public statements of his former “fixer” who may have even written a book on the subject that I haven’t read, that Donald J. Trump has a long habit of paying for the silence of those who have accused him of misdeeds. One notorious example, which I alluded to, was paying off Stormy Daniels. That payout, according to Cohen, was made using campaign funds. As an aside, Cohen seems to have been convicted and jailed for crimes that he committed at the behest of his boss.

That’s it. That’s the totality what said, though I did not name either Cohen or Daniels in my initial post.

Then you came along making the ridiculous claim that I had asserted that Stormy Daniels was a victim of rape or sexual assault. I made no such claim. Quite obviously, her allegation falls into the third category that I had mentioned (and that you omitted when you mischaracterized my post): infidelity.

Further, I made a follow-up post, adding clarity: "Cohen was crystal clear as to the infidelity hush money payoff to Stormy D and the use of campaign funds".

So… let’s recap. I made accurate statements that you then misconstrued, attacked, and made demands that I retract, backtrack, or apologize for. You used the debate tactic known as creating and attacking a strawman. It is a tactic that someone tends to use when the truth doesn’t favor their position.

Thus, I apologize, on your behalf, for the misstatements that you made regarding my post.
Again, not campaign funds, although the payments can still be in violation of campaign finance laws. There is no way to reasonably read your original post without thinking that campaign funds were "routinely" (routinely is another deliberate mischaracterization btw, FEC only looked into two incidents) used for hush money payments for rape and sexual assault allegations.

You're playing dumb, it's cute, but you worded it that way deliberately because you're a dishonest little weasel.
 
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you guys ARE the danger.

all the board's and country's scum who can't protect their own enough, for whom blind loyalty to party and none to country is everything, and have doubled and tripled down on that just within this thread, are a huge part of everything that's wrong today.

in fact, the biggest part.

Biden is a crook.

Trump is a crook.

Obama was less a crook. but still a huge disaster, and dishonest as h*ll.

Hilary and Bill were both huge crooks who couldn't BF their own constituency enough.

GWB was a traitor/war criminal who should be in prison for life for deliberately lying to take us into a 20 yr war that destabilized the world.

Reagan was as much a pathological liar as Trump, just much slicker about it.

and a crook.

when both side's crooks and liars and traitors get granted full immunity by their own, there is no accountability for anyone in power.

thus we have no accountability for anyone in power, and for whatever your pathetic self serving reasons and excuses, you are all why..


don't shoot the messenger.
 
GWB was a traitor/war criminal who should be in prison for life for deliberately lying to take us into a 20 yr war that destabilized the world.
In fairness, to GWB, I don't think he knew he was lying at the time. I think Rumsfeld sold him a bill of goods that GWB took and ran with it.
 
you guys ARE the danger.

all the board's and country's scum who can't protect their own enough, for whom blind loyalty to party and none to country is everything, and have doubled and tripled down on that just within this thread, are a huge part of everything that's wrong today.

in fact, the biggest part.

Biden is a crook.

Trump is a crook.

Obama was less a crook. but still a huge disaster, and dishonest as h*ll.

Hilary and Bill were both huge crooks who couldn't BF their own constituency enough.

GWB was a traitor/war criminal who should be in prison for life for deliberately lying to take us into a 20 yr war that destabilized the world.

Reagan was as much a pathological liar as Trump, just much slicker about it.

and a crook.

when both side's crooks and liars and traitors get granted full immunity by their own, there is no accountability for anyone in power.

thus we have no accountability for anyone in power, and for whatever your pathetic self serving reasons and excuses, you are all why..


don't shoot the messenger.
No one can take you seriously because you post in such an insincere, nonsensical way. Why do you do it? It’s a WC mystery I’d love to have resolved before I die.
 


He did not send half to Dad. He sent 10% to "The Big Guy" and made many comments that indicate he had pressure to make money for the family.

Source is the laptop that supposedly was Russian disinformation...until it wasn't. The argument that would be brought up is that we don't know who the Big guy is. All sorts of other info purportedly on the laptop would point to the idea that the Big Guy is Joe Biden. The guy who took Hunter on flights as VP to meet Chinese government linked officials who later "hired" Hunter for sums of money that were way higher than one would normally pay a prostitute chasing crackhead who is very clearly not bright to do, well, anything.

So given all that, I think it would warrant having a special prosecutor involved into looking into a guy who is pretty clearly receiving large payouts from foreing entities and even flat out enemies like China because of his relationship with the President. I think that is particularly the case when it is clear he is sharing 10% of his, in my opinion, misbegotten gains with a person he refers to as the "big guy" whose profile you can build from the info this idiot kept on his laptop and all signs point to his Dad, the President, being the leading candidate for that nickname.

We spent 4 years looking into something with a hell of a lot less legs than that. I don't care about Hunter. I want to know if his Dad is making money off the deals with countries like China.
 
"Liberals are suckers."

All those "liberals" are still in Dallas waiting for JFK Junior to appear in Dealey Plaza and join with DJT to be his VPOTUS...:rolleyes:



"Some conspiracy theorists have held the belief that John F. Kennedy, Jr., an attorney and the son of President John F. Kennedy, is alive and is working with the QAnon movement, which holds that Democrats and public figures are a part of a Satan-worshiping, pedophilic occult.

Baseless as it is, the theory is that Kennedy is undercover and acting as Q, the anonymous leader who for years posted cryptic messages to "out" Democrats and claimed to unveil a deep state plot against former President Donald Trump.

But there are changing stories about who Kennedy supposedly disguises himself as. A May 3 Facebook post said he’s masquerading as Juan O. Savin, a prominent promoter of the QAnon movement.

"JOHN & JUAN," the post says before enumerating all the ways it claims the two men are similar: "Both sit the same (cross legged). Same height. Same voice modality. Same age. Both publishers. Both aviators. Both masters of disguise. Both independently wealthy. Both well connected. Both know the LAW. John signed his name ‘Juan Kennedy’ when he was younger. HMMMMMM
🤔
‘Quriouser & Quriouser.’"

YOU calling other people "suckers"? Now THAT is rich. Don't you post tweets from Posobiec, the Pizzagate guy? And you call others "suckers"?
I think it’s even simpler than that. After a career of grifting, lying and deceit, people still thought Trump was a viable presidential candidate and voted for him. Twice.

Talk about suckers.
 
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He did not send half to Dad. He sent 10% to "The Big Guy" and made many comments that indicate he had pressure to make money for the family.

Source is the laptop that supposedly was Russian disinformation...until it wasn't. The argument that would be brought up is that we don't know who the Big guy is. All sorts of other info purportedly on the laptop would point to the idea that the Big Guy is Joe Biden. The guy who took Hunter on flights as VP to meet Chinese government linked officials who later "hired" Hunter for sums of money that were way higher than one would normally pay a prostitute chasing crackhead who is very clearly not bright to do, well, anything.

So given all that, I think it would warrant having a special prosecutor involved into looking into a guy who is pretty clearly receiving large payouts from foreing entities and even flat out enemies like China because of his relationship with the President. I think that is particularly the case when it is clear he is sharing 10% of his, in my opinion, misbegotten gains with a person he refers to as the "big guy" whose profile you can build from the info this idiot kept on his laptop and all signs point to his Dad, the President, being the leading candidate for that nickname.

We spent 4 years looking into something with a hell of a lot less legs than that. I don't care about Hunter. I want to know if his Dad is making money off the deals with countries like China.
There's two problems with this narrative.
1) These events took place in 2017 when Joe Biden was no longer in a position of power in the government. Therefore, there is absolutely nothing illegal about Hunter wanting to give some of his money to his father.
2) Even if you can prove that Hunter is giving money to Joe now (or back before in 2016 / earlier), you have to prove the influence. What are the specific actions that Joe Biden himself made as VP or now that have specifically benefitted China. It can't be a generalized concept that can be tied to overall administration policy, it has to be something detailed like an executive order or a specific benefit to a particular business in China. (All of these conspiracy theories always seem to leave this part out).

There is absolutely potential there for corruption, but it has to be more than just "China gave Hunter money". Chinese business men give millions of dollars every day to other investment bankers that don't pan out. It's a risk / reward industry and I guarantee that scummier people than Hunter Biden are taking advantage of it. Unless you can prove the influence, it's just a "A fool and his money are soon parted" story.
 
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There's two problems with this narrative.
1) These events took place in 2017 when Joe Biden was no longer in a position of power in the government. Therefore, there is absolutely nothing illegal about Hunter wanting to give some of his money to his father.
2) Even if you can prove that Hunter is giving money to Joe now (or back before in 2016 / earlier), you have to prove the influence. What are the specific actions that Joe Biden himself made as VP or now that have specifically benefitted China. It can't be a generalized concept that can be tied to overall administration policy, it has to be something detailed like an executive order or a specific benefit to a particular business in China. (All of these conspiracy theories always seem to leave this part out).

There is absolutely potential there for corruption, but it has to be more than just "China gave Hunter money". Chinese business men give millions of dollars every day to other investment bankers that don't pan out. It's a risk / reward industry and I guarantee that scummier people than Hunter Biden are taking advantage of it. Unless you can prove the influence, it's just a "A fool and his money are soon parted" story.
There is enough smoke here for an investigation...which is how you get your proof one way or the other.
 
There is enough smoke here for an investigation...which is how you get your proof one way or the other.
Is anyone saying that they shouldn't look into this further? I feel like most people - at least on here - are in the camp that if Hunter Biden did something illegal, he should be punished for it. If there's credible evidence that Hunter Biden may have done something criminal, I'm firmly on the record that he should be tried and convicted if found guilty. If Joe Biden is implicated in his mess and he is found guilty of something, he should be prosecuted too.

No one should be above the law.

That said, there does seem to be a question of validity with information. I'm not ready to say there's no 'there' there, but given that the Hunter Biden story is largely pushed by the Trumps, Rudy Giuliani, MyPillow Guy and other crazy people, I have my doubts anything would come from an investigation. I could do with our hearing the stupid Trump bros whine about how differently this would all go if his name was Hunter Trump (or something to that effect).

God, Don Jr and Eric are morons.
 
Is anyone saying that they shouldn't look into this further? I feel like most people - at least on here - are in the camp that if Hunter Biden did something illegal, he should be punished for it. If there's credible evidence that Hunter Biden may have done something criminal, I'm firmly on the record that he should be tried and convicted if found guilty. If Joe Biden is implicated in his mess and he is found guilty of something, he should be prosecuted too.

No one should be above the law.

That said, there does seem to be a question of validity with information. I'm not ready to say there's no 'there' there, but given that the Hunter Biden story is largely pushed by the Trumps, Rudy Giuliani, MyPillow Guy and other crazy people, I have my doubts anything would come from an investigation. I could do with our hearing the stupid Trump bros whine about how differently this would all go if his name was Hunter Trump (or something to that effect).

God, Don Jr and Eric are morons.
It is more than the Trump camp that have alleged wrong doing.

So you are on board for an investigation. We agree there. Do we also agree that it should be a special prosecutor since the President is involved and having his DOJ investigate creates potential conflicts of interest?
 
There is enough smoke here for an investigation...which is how you get your proof one way or the other.
My understanding is that there is already an investigation into Hunter for various tax issues. The question here was Joe. You are claiming that Joe is under the influence of the Chinese. There needs to be a basis for investigation.

Hunter giving money to his Dad is not a basis for investigation. Joe changing US policy in a way that is counter to the US policy / laws would be a basis for investigation.

So what is the policy change that Joe did that warrants investigation?
 
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You have a bad case of HDS. Too bad he isn't the president. must really suck. Maybe next time the dems can take a page out of the GOP playbook and elect a scumbag. And then we can fly huge flags supporting said scumbag....maybe fly it right under an antifa flag. Could do the whole trumper thing for a bit of karma.... ;)
 
My understanding is that there is already an investigation into Hunter for various tax issues. The question here was Joe. You are claiming that Joe is under the influence of the Chinese. There needs to be a basis for investigation.

Hunter giving money to his Dad is not a basis for investigation. Joe changing US policy in a way that is counter to the US policy / laws would be a basis for investigation.

So what is the policy change that Joe did that warrants investigation?

5 CFR § 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.​

I don't know what deals may have been cut with the Chinese that would relate to this. This is why we investigate. I know the Chinese gas company that Hunter was taking money from ended up with a bunch of oil that was released from our strategic reserves.


But Hunter giving his Dad money IS a problem if it is a payoff because the only reason that Hunter is getting the money is because of Dad's public office. See the federal law referenced above.
 
It is more than the Trump camp that have alleged wrong doing.

So you are on board for an investigation. We agree there. Do we also agree that it should be a special prosecutor since the President is involved and having his DOJ investigate creates potential conflicts of interest?
I think there is a lot between point A (establishing that an investigation is probably warranted) and point B (appointing a special prosecutor).
 

5 CFR § 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain.​

I don't know what deals may have been cut with the Chinese that would relate to this. This is why we investigate. I know the Chinese gas company that Hunter was taking money from ended up with a bunch of oil that was released from our strategic reserves.


But Hunter giving his Dad money IS a problem if it is a payoff because the only reason that Hunter is getting the money is because of Dad's public office. See the federal law referenced above.
Broken link? Clicking on the link leads to a .jpg.
 
Honestly, I've seen enough of Joe as President to not give a s**t about Hunter. Joe is the worst President in my life time. We'll be lucky to still have a country by the time his term is over. I'm far more worried about what he is doing to destroy America than any illegal dealings he had with Hunter. As far as Hunter is concerned, I'll go with "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" and, of course, the FBI and DOJ are covering his butt.
I thought Trump was the worst in your lifetime? Any study has him ranked last or right there in the list of our Nations presidents. Question, what percent of the American population will trust our elections are fair after the antics of The Donald and Crew? Next question, do you think Trump might have some sort of mental issues? Last question, do you think The Donald should do any prison time for 1. offering a bribe to Ukraine 2. Inciting a riot 3. Conspiring to overthrow a free and fair election 4. 25 sexual assault allegations (not proven yet but look at his track record) 5. Tax evasion and insurance fraud 6. Trump University 7. Trump Foundation (not Clinton's but Trumps) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
 
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I thought Trump was the worst in your lifetime? Any study has him ranked last or right there in the list of our Nations presidents. Question, what percent of the American population will trust our elections are fair after the antics of The Donald and Crew? Next question, do you think Trump might have some sort of mental issues? Last question, do you think The Donald should do any prison time for 1. offering a bribe to Ukraine 2. Inciting a riot 3. Conspiring to overthrow a free and fair election 4. 25 sexual assault allegations (not proven yet but look at his track record) 5. Tax evasion and insurance fraud 6. Trump University 7. Trump Foundation (not Clinton's but Trumps) etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

If he wasn't president, then he likely would have been rounded up in the MeToo movement. Lucky timing.
 
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You have a bad case of HDS. Too bad he isn't the president. must really suck. Maybe next time the dems can take a page out of the GOP playbook and elect a scumbag. And then we can fly huge flags supporting said scumbag....maybe fly it right under an antifa flag. Could do the whole trumper thing for a bit of karma.... ;)

Biden is biggest scumbag president or non president so check that off the Democrat checklist. He seems the first elected president that is a lame duck president for the entire 4 year career of being president assuming he lives that long or doesn't get sent to the dementia asylum so he can get fed his Yankee Bean soup..

Biden has done a lot of damage to americans in his 50 or so years of service making stupid laws and putting out his propaganda about racial jungles, making for a wasteful war on drugs, threatening citizens that his gestapo can take their property away and getting police funded to attack minority neighborhoods. His laws are for his war on american citizens but not for his family. He probably wants to bring Brittney Spears home but then shouldn't he free all the other americans in prison for smoking pot that his laws have ruined folks lives. Russia keeps telling him that they have Brittany Griner not Spears.

The govt. is still doing their best to keep the black market and drug cartels alive for their war so they can steal Americans money. In Cailiformia, there are so many fees and license taxes on the pot industry that it is still much cheaper to go dealers and keep the drug cartels alive and well.

These 2 clown parties argue about election fraud but what are primaries that force people to vote for either a Democrat or a Republican or whomever the next criminal that has bribed their way into an alliance with one of the MSM channels. Kinda like watching Batman or Gotham. Now they are all mad because the Trump folks and Progressive folks like Bernie play their game and join the silly primary process.

At least Fox is coming around a bit. Fox Nation app will be streaming Freedom Fest this week and they have Kennedy on FBN for the Gold Movement.
 
Is anyone saying that they shouldn't look into this further? I feel like most people - at least on here - are in the camp that if Hunter Biden did something illegal, he should be punished for it. If there's credible evidence that Hunter Biden may have done something criminal, I'm firmly on the record that he should be tried and convicted if found guilty. If Joe Biden is implicated in his mess and he is found guilty of something, he should be prosecuted too.

No one should be above the law.

That said, there does seem to be a question of validity with information. I'm not ready to say there's no 'there' there, but given that the Hunter Biden story is largely pushed by the Trumps, Rudy Giuliani, MyPillow Guy and other crazy people, I have my doubts anything would come from an investigation. I could do with our hearing the stupid Trump bros whine about how differently this would all go if his name was Hunter Trump (or something to that effect).

God, Don Jr and Eric are morons.
I’m sure they’ll get that Hunter eventually. They’ll link Hunter to Benghazi if they have to.
 
Biden even admits he has the list MSM folks they have agreed to terms with on their corrupt bribes and coverage to spew out his propaganda.


so? trump tried to steal an election. got some real gripes or just your general load of crap for you get your panties in a twist?

Plus, the Trump administration tried to have press he didn't like kicked out of the press room. I don't think you want to go there ;)
 
We're two and a half years into this decade, and Biden is not even the worst president of this decade. I'm not even saying that he's a good president, either.
 
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I’m sure they’ll get that Hunter eventually. They’ll link Hunter to Benghazi if they have to.
Honestly, there probably isn’t anyone in the world who wants Joe Biden to be a one term president more than Hunter Biden.

Once it doesn’t score any political points to bring up his name, no one will want to investigate him for anything.
 
Honestly, there probably isn’t anyone in the world who wants Joe Biden to be a one term president more than Hunter Biden.

Once it doesn’t score any political points to bring up his name, no one will want to investigate him for anything.
Like all the BENGAZI!!!!! investigations that just suddenly stopped even though Hillary was for sure going to jail. hahahahaha
 
post after post of you party shtheads on both sides defending the total PsOS on both sides, and their corruption and lying and self dealing, while having no problem hammering the other side for doing the exact same.

you ARE the reason they do this sht.

because YOU are the ones who allow and enable them to get away with this sht.

but then you all already knew this, and just don't care.
 
post after post of you party shtheads on both sides defending the total PsOS on both sides, and their corruption and lying and self dealing, while having no problem hammering the other side for doing the exact same.

you ARE the reason they do this sht.

because YOU are the ones who allow and enable them to get away with this sht.

but then you all already knew this, and just don't care.

When dems try to steal an election, you might have a point about it being both sides.

Neither side is perfect but there's no comparison in level of corruption.
 
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