Mar-a-Lago is Under Siege

[Stuffshot]

Yeah, but what about the lights and sirens?

Well, lights and sirens didn't hurt O.J., did it?

Trump may be hoping for an O.J. Simpson result -- criminal acquittal plus (who cares) civil liability.

Trump can probably handle paying only $132,000.

Fred Goldman Says O.J. Simpson's Only Paid $132k In Wrongful Death Suit, Owes Millions

OJ Simpson is still DEEEEEEEP in the hole to the Goldman Family -- only paying $132,849.53 ... despite reportedly owing more than $70 MILLION.

www.tmz.com

That would not really impact his budget for Depends and heavy-duty hairspray.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Mar-a-Lago was vacant staffed only by a skeleton crew for the summer. The family was at Bedminster. Certainly the FBI mole would have known that.

You are getting very deep into the conspiracy theory rabbit hole.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Why didn’t they just subpoena these records?

How many subpoenas have Trump and his cronies ignored?

 

[UncleMark]

Why didn’t they just subpoena these records?

They didn't trust that Trump would comply.

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

How many subpoenas have Trump and his cronies ignored?

They didn't trust that Trump would comply.

Then you nail him for contempt of court and throw him in jail. Isn’t that the normal course of action?

Why was it necessary to raid the personal home of a former United States president, for the first time in US history, without at least issuing a subpoena first?

Do you guys not even SUSPECT that this might be nothing more than a political stunt?

For all the whining about all the norms Trump broke, you’re here celebrating Bidens doj doing the same thing?

 

[iuwclurker]

Nope.

WTF does “full stop” mean?

It’s British for period. And no not the kind you’re Stoker doesn’t get any more.

 

[Stuffshot]

Why didn’t they just subpoena these records?

Hmmm, HoopsDocs.

Would you (17 months after Trump had left office) rather issue yet another subpoena (yawn) requesting Trump to produce the same old documents you requested that he return that he shouldn't have taken in the first place but still hasn't given back to you, despite being asked to return them and agreeing to do so several times over a period of months?

Or, since some of the hidden documents concern North Korea and its dictator, would you just rather exercise the clearcut rights and procedures of the U.S. government to recover its own documents about foreign enemies from people who have no legal right to have them?

Or, maybe you wish to take the path that most benefits Trump in his reelection bid?

 

[Stuffshot]

It’s British for period. And no not the kind you’re Stoker doesn’t get any more.

The Brits still use telegrams? Who knew?

 

[UncleMark]

Why was it necessary to raid the personal home of a former United States president, for the first time in US history, without at least issuing a subpoena first?

Do you guys not even SUSPECT that this might be nothing more than a political stunt?

I'm having trouble seeing how executing a search warrant is any more political than issuing a subpoena. But even so, the warrant guarantees that whatever they're after doesn't get spirited away or destroyed. You will surely say I'm being over the top, but I don't put anything past Donald Trump.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Then you nail him for contempt of court and throw him in jail. Isn’t that the normal course of action?

Why was it necessary to raid the personal home of a former United States president, for the first time in US history, without at least issuing a subpoena first?

Do you guys not even SUSPECT that this might be nothing more than a political stunt?

For all the whining about all the norms Trump broke, you’re here celebrating Bidens doj doing the same thing?

Trump threw out the norms long ago. He can’t be treated the same because there is no precedence for the way he acted. And if there were more Republicans with integrity , ala in Nixon days, this would have been behind us years ago. But they all had to line up to crown their corrupt king. Precedence out the window.

 

[iuwclurker]

I'm having trouble seeing how executing a search warrant is any more political than issuing a subpoena. But even so, the warrant guarantees that whatever they're after doesn't get spirited away or destroyed. You will surely say I'm being over the top, but I don't put anything past Donald Trump.

Over the top is the 1 million FBI agents Fox is reporting they sent.

 

[ulrey]

I did? A life changing trip to places most people only dream about is a bad vacation? Alrighty then…

With the girls?

 

[Stuffshot]

Then you nail him for contempt of court and throw him in jail. Isn’t that the normal course of action?

Why was it necessary to raid the personal home of a former United States president, for the first time in US history, without at least issuing a subpoena first?

Do you guys not even SUSPECT that this might be nothing more than a political stunt?

For all the whining about all the norms Trump broke, you’re here celebrating Bidens doj doing the same thing?

Yes, I agree that Trump's refusal to produce the government documents in his possession, plus whining that he was a victim of a search warrant, is "nothing more than a political stunt."

Why do you automatically defend Trump on the issue of returning government documents to the government? That shouldn't be you.

 

[Stuffshot]

Over the top is the 1 million FBI agents Fox is reporting they sent.

YAWN.

Then, Fox should be required to pay them.

 

[iuwclurker]

YAWN.

Then, Fox should be required to pay them.

Brilliant! Probably the best way to get Trump to stop lying is to make him pay for every lie.

 

[outside shooter]

Wall St. Journal: Raid was based on info on documents given by an informant.

Raid was at 10 AM, not 6AM. Every agent was in uniform. No secret army. Followed SOPs.

 

[UncleMark]

Wall St. Journal: Raid was based on info on documents given by an informant.

Raid was at 10 AM, not 6AM. Every agent was in uniform. No secret army. Followed SOPs.

Nope. Per COH, it was predawn with lights and sirens.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Wall St. Journal: Raid was based on info on documents given by an informant.

Raid was at 10 AM, not 6AM. Every agent was in uniform. No secret army. Followed SOPs.

That no good omarosa. guaranteed. boy no good deed goes unpunished. a nobody from youngstown ohio - trump gave her a shot. an opportunity to make a go of it in a world most of us can only dream of (save hoosboot), and this is how she repays him. my my my

 

[outside shooter]

The informant gave specific info about what documents were there and where within Mar-a-Lago they were stored. A clear insider or very recent visitor who had amazing access.

 

[UncleMark]

The informant gave specific info about what documents were there and where within Mar-a-Lago they were stored. A clear insider or very recent visitor who had amazing access.

I'm picturing someone that Trump wanted to impress and Trump going "Look at this shit, you're not gonna believe what I've got in here."

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

Hmmm, HoopsDocs.

Would you (17 months after Trump had left office) rather issue yet another subpoena (yawn) requesting Trump to produce the same old documents you requested that he return that he shouldn't have taken in the first place but still hasn't given back to you, despite being asked to return them and agreeing to do so several times over a period of months?

Or, since some of the hidden documents concern North Korea and its dictator, would you just rather exercise the clearcut rights and procedures of the U.S. government to recover its own documents about foreign enemies from people who have no legal right to have them?

Or, maybe you wish to take the path that most benefits Trump in his reelection bid?

I'm having trouble seeing how executing a search warrant is any more political than issuing a subpoena. But even so, the warrant guarantees that whatever they're after doesn't get spirited away or destroyed. You will surely say I'm being over the top, but I don't put anything past Donald Trump.

Trump threw out the norms long ago. He can’t be treated the same because there is no precedence for the way he acted. And if there were more Republicans with integrity , ala in Nixon days, this would have been behind us years ago. But they all had to line up to crown their corrupt king. Precedence out the window.

Yes, I agree that Trump's refusal to produce the government documents in his possession, plus whining that he was a victim of a search warrant, is "nothing more than a political stunt."

Why do you automatically defend Trump on the issue of returning government documents to the government? That shouldn't be you.

Right. Not a single answer. Just more justifications.

About what I expected.

 

[dr.jb]

I'm having trouble seeing how executing a search warrant is any more political than issuing a subpoena. But even so, the warrant guarantees that whatever they're after doesn't get spirited away or destroyed. You will surely say I'm being over the top, but I don't put anything past Donald Trump.

i don't put anything past any of them (either side)

that's where we are

sad...

 

[outside shooter]

Why didn’t they just subpoena these records?

Clear answer right here:

They knew what documents were there and even where they were. Documents are easy to MOVE. Issuing a subpoena risks that. Going in to get them doesn't. Is this really THAT hard to understand?

 

[zeke4ahs]

Right. Not a single answer. Just more justifications.

About what I expected.

No I don’t think there is any chance it was a political stunt. Merrick Garland has given zero indication in his long career that he would instigate something like that. There’s your answer.

 

[iuwclurker]

I'm picturing someone that Trump wanted to impress and Trump going "Look at this shit, you're not gonna believe what I've got in here."

And now he’s apoplectic walking around fuming about leaks. Yelling at walls. Changing his diapers every 30 seconds.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

No I don’t think there is any chance it was a political stunt. Merrick Garland has given zero indication in his long career that he would instigate something like that. There’s your answer.

Lol. Garland mobilized the FISA FBI. counter terrorism unit against unruly parents at a school board meeting.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Nope. Per COH, it was predawn with lights and sirens.

See.

at 3:40 looks pretty dark for mid day.

video of fbi mara lago raid - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[zeke4ahs]

Lol. Garland mobilized the FISA FBI. counter terrorism unit against unruly parents at a school board meeting.

Lol indeed. School board members were getting threats against their lives and things thrown at them during meetings . Many school boards did not meet in person for months due to “unruly” mobs.

 

[IUINSB]

Nope. Per COH, it was predawn with lights and sirens.

What! No flash bangs. FBI wusses.

 

[outside shooter]

I'm picturing someone that Trump wanted to impress and Trump going "Look at this shit, you're not gonna believe what I've got in here."

I am picturing a slumped over figure muttering about missing emails, while officers are searching for special handcuffs, size EXTRA SMALL.

 

[iuwclurker]

See.

at 3:40 looks pretty dark for mid day.

video of fbi mara lago raid - Google Search

www.google.com

In your link they state the raid was at 10 AM.

 

[CO. Hoosier]

Why didn’t they just subpoena these records?

A subpoena requires more specificity. The FBI didn’t know what they were looking for because they were looking for any January 6 dirt. That’s why this informant story is a crock. You don’t need 30agents looking for 9 hours if an informant told you where to look.

 

[bawlmer]

Right. Not a single answer. Just more justifications.

About what I expected.

Justify what? The warrant?

 

[iuwclurker]

A subpoena requires more specificity. The FBI didn’t know what they were looking for because they were looking for any January 6 dirt. That’s why this informant story is a crock. You don’t need 30agents looking for 9 hours if an informant told you where to look.

They can’t possibly know if the boxes were moved in the interim. The warrant can’t be required to be that specific.

Furthermore they can’t possibly know if anything was removed from the boxes and put elsewhere. A thorough search to find documents of national security is worth every minute they require to regain those documents.

The biggest farce about your and conservative outrage is that we’re talking about documents of national security. We’re talking about your nation, COH. You are so worried about defending your Stoker-in-chief that you’re missing the big picture here.

 

[outside shooter]

In your link they state the raid was at 10 AM.

Maybe they left after dark or twilight. This far south it is ~8PM these days.

Check: sunset in West Palm is 8:01 today.

 

[IUINSB]

A subpoena requires more specificity. The FBI didn’t know what they were looking for because they were looking for any January 6 dirt. That’s why this informant story is a crock. You don’t need 30agents looking for 9 hours if an informant told you where to look.

Search warrant saved 45 thousands in plumbing repairs.

 

[outside shooter]

You don’t need 30agents looking for 9 hours

In a 120 room compound with many locks to break and many alarms to disable, with most of the goods in a basement bunker, it will not be fast.

 

[Bowlmania]

In a 120 room compound with many locks to break and many alarms to disable, with most of the goods in a basement bunker, it will not be fast.

126 rooms and 62,500 square feet. If they didn't know exactly what they were looking for - - and where it was - - they'd still be there.

He's just throwing shit against the wall as part of his "federal police powers" faux outrage that is based on, well, nothing.

 

[iuwclurker]

Hell, even if then President Trump declassified documents at the last minute as a pretense to taking them with him from the White House that doesn’t mean that they aren’t in fact documents that should remain classified from the point of view of all rational actors for reasons of national security.

 

[Stuffshot]

Right. Not a single answer. Just more justifications.

About what I expected.

Thank you for agreeing with the justifications that you expected. You admit you had time to rebut them if you could. And, you still couldn't.

Go Trump 2024 !!