Hahha...the little bitch is in major political danger, and NOW decides to pause in his crusade to destroy the country formerly known as Canada...
So he’s Harris……..Hahha...the little bitch is in major political danger, and NOW decides to pause in his crusade to destroy the country formerly known as Canada...
It’s pretty remarkable how much immigration politics have shifted in the past several years.
Yes and no. The narrative always was its good for countries economies. However, that is a bullshit. Almost all immigration is a net negative for developed nations, with large safety nets. And it’s especially bad for the working class people living in the country.It’s pretty remarkable how much immigration politics have shifted in the past several years.
Yes and no. The narrative always was its good for countries economies. However, that is a bullshit. Almost all immigration is a net negative for developed nations, with large safety nets. And it’s especially bad for the working class people living in the country.
They’re both signs of a decaying society.A country either has immigration or emigration. Which one you think is worse?
They’re both signs of a decaying society.
It’s just math. The bottom half if society takes more than they produce.Ah.. The Yogi Berra position... 'Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded'
Not that the past is predictive of the future in all cases, but our most productive citizens are probably descended from people who came over in a free for all. I only say that to suggest that when it comes to the value of a particular immigrant, we have to consider future generations, as well.You just said immigration. I think we should have a lot of immigration.... But it should be done a much more deliberate and intentional manner. Not the free for all we have now.
Not that the past is predictive of the future in all cases, but our most productive citizens are probably descended from people who came over in a free for all. I only say that to suggest that when it comes to the value of a particular immigrant, we have to consider future generations, as well.
Yes and no. The narrative always was its good for countries economies. However, that is a bullshit. Almost all immigration is a net negative for developed nations, with large safety nets. And it’s especially bad for the working class people living in the country.
I appreciate the link and was curious how they came up with their claims. Immigrants consume less because the study includes SS/Medicare and their younger on average and/or not immediately available for those programs. The study also didn’t measure other social costs, chiefly education. The state of Indiana spends around 10,000 a year on each child for example.In the US, immigrants consume less social welfare per capita than native born. Often, much less:
I agree and they should be from Northern Europe like it was before the immigration act of 1965. F LBJ.You just said immigration. I think we should have a lot of immigration.... But it should be done a much more deliberate and intentional manner. Not the free for all we have now.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at?You just said immigration.
We most likely disagree on the amounts.I think we should have a lot of immigration....
I agree, but don’t see how that would ever be accomplished. You would have to purposely target higher educated people, which wouldn’t fly in today’s political environment.But it should be done a much more deliberate and intentional manner. Not the free for all we have now.
I appreciate the link and was curious how they came up with their claims. Immigrants consume less because the study includes SS/Medicare and their younger on average and/or not immediately available for those programs. The study also didn’t measure other social costs, chiefly education. The state of Indiana spends around 10,000 a year on each child for example.
I agree and they should be from Northern Europe like it was before the immigration act of 1965. F LBJ.
Well, we are experiencing the results of his "great society" legislation.At least someone said the quiet part out loud.
I just share Teddy Roosevelt's idea on immigration.At least someone said the quiet part out loud.
As Uncle Milton (who was generally a vocal advocate of immigration) pointed out, the question of how beneficial immigration is to a society needs to be examined through a lens of their productivity balanced against their consumption of social welfare benefits.In the US, immigrants consume less social welfare per capita than native born. Often, much less:
There is nothing that prevents us from changing our safety net laws to block immigrants from full access for 5 years (or any other number) to eliminate that concern. We could require 5 years of work before becoming a citizen.
I do not know when your family arrived but there is a damn good chance people did not want them here. Since its founding, this country has had a real love/hate relationship with immigrants.
As Uncle Milton (who was generally a vocal advocate of immigration) pointed out, the question of how beneficial immigration is to a society needs to be examined through a lens of their productivity balanced against their consumption of social welfare benefits.
There is a lot of data on this question and, to my reading of it, it’s a mixed bag and not nearly as clear cut as it was in the late 19th and early 20th centuries…when our welfare state wasn’t anywhere near the size it is now.
In the below video, he says that illegal immigration is better than legal immigration, because they don’t qualify for most public benefits.
I would say, anecdotally, that my observed experience is that these folks tend to have pretty robust work ethics.
I worked in a microbiology lab for the 2nd largest egg producer in the country.As Uncle Milton (who was generally a vocal advocate of immigration) pointed out, the question of how beneficial immigration is to a society needs to be examined through a lens of their productivity balanced against their consumption of social welfare benefits.
There is a lot of data on this question and, to my reading of it, it’s a mixed bag and not nearly as clear cut as it was in the late 19th and early 20th centuries…when our welfare state wasn’t anywhere near the size it is now.
In the below video, he says that illegal immigration is better than legal immigration, because they don’t qualify for most public benefits.
I would say, anecdotally, that my observed experience is that these folks tend to have pretty robust work ethics.
We know that plants raided in 2019 never checked the I-9 information:I worked in a microbiology lab for the 2nd largest egg producer in the country.
Almost all production people were Hispanics. Guess what, they had identification and social security numbers. How else do you fill out an I-9 form. That would allow them access to benefits too.
How did they get them? They buy their identification from identity theives
It’s pretty remarkable how much immigration politics have shifted in the past several years.
There are still plenty of illegal immigrants that have the information they need to gain access to benefits.We know that plants raided in 2019 never checked the I-9 information:
A PH Food employee, acting as a confidential informant, told Homeland Security investigators that the vast majority of the 240 employees at PH's plant in Morton and the 80 employees at A&B's plant in Pelahatchie didn't have proper work documents, including many Guatemalans.The informant said employees used their real names and made-up Social Security numbers to apply for jobs at PH and A&B. "The payroll companies, as well as PH Food Inc. and A&B Inc. do not verify the authenticity of their documents," the informant told investigators. Mississippi state law requires employers to check documents using E-Verify, an otherwise voluntary online federal system.
Chicken Processing Plant Owners 'Willfully' Used Illegal Workers
Investigators behind the biggest immigration raid in a decade relied on informants inside the plants and data from electronic monitoring bracelets.www.foodmanufacturing.com