Kamala Marx
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Businesses have the right to deny their products and services to any person they please within the bounds of the law.
That is not true if said product or service is a “right”. Rights mean something entirely different.
not more than Project 2025 but it does not matter to you, you are not female or a POC, work for the FBI ,or in public education, or have trumps minions replace you.
Employees don't have that right. Are they operating "under a form of servitude?" If not, why not?
I’m talking about the difference between negative and positive rights. Not at will employment. Obviously if a doctor is tired of being a doctor, they can quit. It’s not servitude.
My main gripe is that I don’t believe in positive rights and most Democrats do. If a business if forced to provide services, it is no longer a private and independent business. It is being subject to government coercion or even servitude.
If doctors in nations with universal healthcare felt they were operating under a form of servitude, I think it reasonable to predict that there would be fewer of them, per capita, then in the US.
That's not true, though. Scandinavian nations that have free healthcare also have more doctors per capita than the US does.
List of countries by number of physicians - Wikipedia
Note, I am not saying we should operate a Scandinavian style system here with this post. I'm just challenging the servitude hyperbole.
Positive rights exist whether or not you believe in them. Example: people charged with a crime in the United States have a positive right to legal representation if they cannot afford it themselves. The govt pays.
Sounds like some penumbra building here. You should have been a lawyer.
Actually quite enjoyed Business Law, L201. For a second I thought corporate lawyer might be in the cards.
CoH School of Law is accepting applications. I can put in a word for you.
The government doesn’t provide anything. They take people’s money (or time), which forces people to work more.
There are multiple republicans who don’t like Trump for almost 8 billion in debt while talking about the “greatest economy ever”, some of us read the pilot testimony from Maxwell trial stating under oath Trump was “frequent flyer on Lolita Express” and Trump seems to mainly gravitate to non democratic autocrats. Many Trump supporters avoid under oath testimony, I do not.
I did 26 years in the military. If that’s a lifetime attached to the government tit, so be it and **** you. I made more in 12.5 years after retirement. **** you again, you ankle biting Ruskie.
I’m fine with subsidizing healthcare for the poor, but I’m not going to pretend it’s a right. You’re asking other people to work more and pay for it. That’s what it is.
Typically how it goes. Parlay that civil or gov servitude into a nice payday.
Sacrifice and all…
I think you’re arguing semantics and degrees. A right just denotes something we apply to individuals and execute through rules, laws, norms, etc. that has a certain level of protected legal status.
They are culturally contingent and don’t exist in the world absent human invention.
People pay for expertise and skills which increase the bottom line. It’s the American way. I was paid well in the Navy too, by the way. No complaints.
Businesses shouldn't be forced to provide their services. But if they choose to refuse service to the public they can't use any publicly funded entities. No mail, roads, fire, police, etc. If you want to operate on the public square you need to serve the public.
Ridiculous. The businesses and their proprietors and employees pay just as much for those services as anyone else.
You have no justification for what you are saying. Reminds me of the “you didn’t build that” malarkey often spewed by closeted Marxists.
Good luck with that idea. They pay taxes for all those services. Probably more than you. What services do you provide to show you deserve to use them?
Just not a big fan of "We don't serve your kind here!"
You know assholes. Actually I'm sure you know.
Being a racist asshole isn’t illegal. Although it was made illegal in 1964 in some instances. Which is pretty clearly unconstitutional.
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