That is 100% false.
Just when I thought the democrats couldn’t be more disgusting . . .
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Speaking of plotting to steal it. Looks like the Dems are using the 2020 playbook again.
Trump Isn’t Playing to Win the Election, He’s Plotting to Steal It
Team Trump know they have lost. Cue the fake polls, false claims of voter fraud, and any other malign trick they can dream up to subvert democracy.www.thedailybeast.com
There most definitely will be “questions about cheating.” It’s called campaign strategy by some.
You're free to investigate
I don't know why you wouldn't believe it - this was rampant in swing states in 2020
Biden illegally having a few classified documents is not OK.
Pence illegally having a few classified documents is not OK.
Trump illegally having tons of classified documents is not OK.
Trump refusing to cooperate regarding his tons of classified documents is not OK.
Trump and his lawyers lying and claiming that he didn't even have tons of classified documents is not OK.
Trump showing classified documents to show off to civilians who shouldn't have access, even in a SCIF, if not OK
Summary
The crime is not OK
An even greater magnitude of the crime is even more not OK.
The coverup is even more not OK
The lying over and over and over and over is even more not OK.
Got the picture?
probably not
/cult
Dumbass. Willingness to cooperate is a mitigating factor in sentencing, not a determinate of bringing charges.
Unless you think letting a bank robber go after he gets caught but returns the money willingly is OK.
Biden not being prosecuted not OK.
Blow .08, dui. Blow a .18, still dui. It's still the same crime. Magnitude can be addressed as an enhancement.
what about resisting arrest, impeding an investigation, lying, etc.
those are extra crimes
Separate crimes.
You are missing the point. Trump was indicted for the same crime biden wasn't.
Your argument is not fact-based nor responsive to what the other poster accurately set forth.
Trump obstructed justice.
In addition to taking the documents, he was charged in five counts relating to conspiracy to obstruct justice and withholding documents and records. He was also charged with making false statements.
You can't possibly be this stupid. Oh, wait. It's you. Never mind.
It’s not OK, but it was a fraction of the number of documents Trump had, there’s no evidence it was deliberate as there is with Trump and Biden didn’t try to illegally keep them like Trump did.
I’d be good with prosecuting Biden under the gross negligence standard of the law but they couldn’t do it until January when he’s out of office. They didn’t prosecute HRC under that standard either. I thought they should have. I’m a stickler on the issue and Trump should most definitely be prosecuted.
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See, that's one of the big problems with your movement. If someone opposes Trump and/or has a different ideology than him/you, then they're immediately a bad person. But your leader/idol demonizes his opponents and/or anyone he doesn't like on a daily basis, so it's not surprising that you'd follow suit.
No. 1960 is the election that may have been flipped due to voter fraud. None since could have been.
Some of you guys have no issue with lies or linking to liars. It is sad to see.
You are a “lock her up” hypocrite on this issue. And obstruction of justice is a separate crime that he’s been charged with, lying dumbass.
And Nixon gracefully accepted the results.
Wrong. There are different standards under the law. Deliberate mishandling of classified information is a much higher level than gross negligence in handling classified information. I have extensive knowledge and experience with handling classified information.
Nobody ever thought that.
TIC. Good lawyers are the backbone of liberty, IMHO.
Then you've studied at the feet of the masters.
1) Person one is stopped for speeding. Doing 70 in a 55. He pulls over, presents papers to the cop, cooperates, has a clean record, admits to making a mistake, and the cop just gives him a warning.
2) Person two is stopped for speeding. Doing 90 in a 55. Cop tries to pull him over, but he bolts. They stop him with stop sticks. He refuses to cooperate or present his papers. He gets a $200 ticket, plus time in the slammer for the multiple other offenses.
Same crime, different punishment.
24/7/365
Uh no. #2 first off isnt stopped in your example.
It becomes an additional crime at the point of speeding away.
Wtf?
both were speeding. We could make them both doing 70 in a 55 if you want.
One was a jackass
One was not
The jackass gets the speeding ticket and gets everything else
The non jackass drives away happy and ticketless
Trump is the jackass
Pence and Biden are the non jackasses
This seems hard for you. Too much fluoride?
One was a jackass
One was not
The jackass gets the speeding ticket and gets everything else
The non jackass drives away happy and ticketless
Trump is the jackass
Pence and Biden are the non jackasses
This seems hard for you. Too much fluoride?
The issue we were discussing was election fraud. The Daley Machine is exhibit 1A.
Ok, prosecute Trump 21Jan2029 then. But Hillary starts today and Joe in a couple months. Equal equal.
After all my explanations of this you still don't understand that they're not at all the same. On the seriousness scale, Trump is at 100 and the others are at 20, if that. Once again, I'd be good with prosecuting all of them, but that's not going to happen. They've made the determination that gross negligence, which is the most they could get for HRC, Pence and Biden for (without obstruction of justice or conspiracy to obstruct justice). Let's be clear - anyone that said "lock her up" about HRC and defends Trump is a huge hypocrite. It's not even debatable.
okay. great. we're glad you finally showed up. let's try to stay in the threads and topics that matter. this is a big night
Maybe they could remake Pat Garrett and Billy the Kidboth were speeding. We could make them both doing 70 in a 55 if you want.
One was a jackass
One was not
The jackass gets the speeding ticket and gets everything else
The non jackass drives away happy and ticketless
Trump is the jackass
Pence and Biden are the non jackasses
This seems hard for you. Too much fluoride?
Pat: We got the drop on you, Billy. Come out with your hands up.
Billy: Aw shucks, you got me, Pat. I'm really sorry I robbed that bank. Here's the money back.
Pat: OK, Billy. Thanks for being so cooperative. Is that all the money?
Billy: Yessir
Pat: Would you mind if we look around your property just to make sure we got it all? You know - around those other buildings there?
Billy: No, go right ahead.
(search ensues)
Pat: Billy, we found some more cash here.
Billy: Dang it, I plumb forgot about that. Really sorry, Pat.
Pat: Oh Bill, you rascal. Now don't do that again, hear?
Billy: No sir, absolutely not. Actually, I forgot I'd even robbed that bank in the first place.
Pat: OK, Billy, see that you don't. Enjoy the rest of your evening.
Just got in my hotel in Wythville, VA for the evening. I wanted to get a ways out of Charlotte before driving to Indiana tomorrow.
Told the lady at the counter I hoped the TV works because I want to watch the election. She scoffed and said "I don't pay no attention to that. But Trump better win". lol
You've said it 1,000 times. With this post I've disagreed 1,001 times. You can not, via written law nor especially the implicated law, that there are any differences other than, "well Trump and I hate him".
You will post a response, then I will in reply.
My goal for all white, black, red, green, brown, rich, poor, politician, NON politician people is equal application of the law, not only the written but also the intent of the law.
You are for... Well, it's Trump and Msm said "he humped my mom once, and she liked it".
The beat goes on. I've got 1,003 set up, so bring on your next. I'm pretty sure we both know that neither will stop.
That’s an elementary school level view.
Telling your political opponents you will make sure their lawyers are punished, so they won’t have lawyers, is fascist bullshit.
The Democrat Party is despicable. They have forced their own candidate (Gore) to withdraw a concession and file bullshit lawsuits challenging elections on bullshit grounds. They have denied their party members the chance to elect Bernie Sanders. They lied for months about Joe Biden’s mental health and then - when he won - forced him out any way.
Now they seek to deprive their political opponents the right to counsel.
And you laugh at that.
Mind control.
You still don’t understand. They are not in any way equivalent. It amazes me that you cannot understand this very simple fact.
Equally can't understand how you think they are not equal. Honestly, Buyden and Clintons are 100x worse due to time of possession and total lack of tracking from DC. You have ZERO solid land to stand on here. ZERO. DC and the swamp have spent 50+ years covering up for your preferred MIC accomplices. You Only prefer The swamp that protects your employer and thus your paycheck. Every one here knows it. Just come clean. Joe and Hillary used all of those doc's for their own personal gain. HELL, Joe even admitted using them for a $$$ Book.
I'm sure someone else said this, but they're just saying make sure you base your litigation on actual facts based on evidence. Don't just rely on a bunch of old me on message boards and a bloated Presidential candidate trying to stay out of jail.They fly below my lowest expectations.
Marc Elias, Harris’s chief election lawyer warns all lawyers not to represent Trump lest they face loss of clients, loss of firm partnerships, or official license discipline.
Progressives Threaten Conservative Election Attorneys in Advance of 2024 Election - Tennessee Star
Progressive activists are warning conservative election attorneys to avoid getting involved in litigation over the 2024 election or they will have their jobs threatened, will be targeted for disbarment, and even prosecuted.tennesseestar.com
Pull quote:
Progressive activists are warning conservative election attorneys to avoid getting involved in litigation over the 2024 election or they will have their jobs threatened, will be targeted for disbarment, and even prosecuted.This is deliberate interference with the attorney client relationship. It interferes with the fair administration of justice. It’s attorney misconduct. There is no way to know whether future litigation about the 2024 election has merit or not. The democrats are running this message as a political ad with the only possible intent to suppress any questions about cheating.
This message, op ed and advertising should itself subject all the attorneys involved to discipline.
They're not equal BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT EQUAL. Jeebus dude, it's absolutely obvious they're not equal. My God, I have no idea why some of you have zero objectivity and logic.
By the way, nothing classified was in that book. They're always screened for that. My God, man. Stop it.
I can't imagine how you think they are different, with the exception that all of your opinion comes from 1) the swamp 2) Cnn.. (although that is totally redundant).
Nothing "IN THE BOOK"... awesome way to totally obscure that the classified doc's were given to someone else without a clearance while he illegally retained those doc's, and then the recipient illegally obtained classified intel, and then officials were allowed to scrub that intel from the book and STILL didn't recover the GD illegal documents that joe IN FACT used for someone else to write his damn book.
Parse all the legal ease for your MIC that you want. JOE WAS A SENATOR THAT STOLE DOCUMENTS FROM THE SC(k)IF! ! and held them for 40+ years in multiple locations and swamp monsters under his payroll covered his ass. Don't reply. This is unquestionable!
The gig is up. MAGA knows what you all do. It's over, but it will take us a while to tear down your MIC wall. But it's coming and total transparency will follow it.
Maybe not you exactly, but many need to find a cottage in South America to live out their human lives. Much like past Germans.
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