Israel under attack from Hamas
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Sounds like the reports of an explosion in Tehran were false. Looks like the only thing happening in Tehran is celebration.
Guess we'll have to wait a few hours, but I'd bet money that this ends with a dull thud. Israel's defenses are likely to intercept most if not all of the drones, and Iran is only going to embarrass themselves. Israel's counterresponse is going to be much more damaging than Iran's.
Guess we'll have to wait a few hours, but I'd bet money that this ends with a dull thud. Israel's defenses are likely to intercept most if not all of the drones, and Iran is only going to embarrass themselves. Israel's counterresponse is going to be much more damaging than Iran's.
Don't you think if Israel were capable of destroying Iran's nuclear production, they'd have already done it? They wouldn't wait for an excuse.
No, I don't think so. I think now is the perfect time for them to do it, if they can.
“Don’t” didn’t work?
Late last year I read About Face about Col David Hackworth. Hackworth was being fast tracked until he said the quiet part to the press, we were fighting Vietnam wrong and would lose. The book reports Hackworth saying often that the worst tools in COIN warfare are planes and artillery because both create more insurgents than they kill.
Hackworth was allegedly the basis for Duvall's character in Apocalypse Now. I don't know what Israel knows that he didn't, but his analysis is pretty much what COIN experts today repeat.
Iran is trying to wish the attack away
Maybe the "Eff around" phase is over...I'm not sure we've seen the "find out" phase yet.
Why is that stupid? It’s already a war by definition. Knocking out your enemy’s strongholds is good warfare.
Who knows as to the complete veracity of this but it is a little more comprehensive than most articles I've read this morning:
nypost.com
How Israel defeated 99% of Iran missiles and drones — with the help of US and an unlikely ally
Not a single drone or cruise missile fired by Iran and its proxies made it through thanks to advanced air defense systems including David’s Sling.
nypost.com
Iran is kind of like the Maltese that always gets in my Bernese mountain baby’s face when we go for a walk.Who knows as to the complete veracity of this but it is a little more comprehensive than most articles I've read this morning:
How Israel defeated 99% of Iran missiles and drones — with the help of US and an unlikely ally
Not a single drone or cruise missile fired by Iran and its proxies made it through thanks to advanced air defense systems including David’s Sling.
Nipping at your heels. Until you have to smack them.
You sound like some others. None of that has anything to do with those supporting Palestine. It’s much more than that and much deeper. There are lots of Muslims in the US for one thing. This has been going on for centuries and so have the alignments.
No, that's the point - I don't want a nuclear war. I don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. They're near to having them and that scares me - a lot.
You know, I think, at some point, Iran will run low on munitions and money to support their proxies. This may have been their last blast, knowing full well we and the Israelis can knock them out of the sky.Who knows as to the complete veracity of this but it is a little more comprehensive than most articles I've read this morning:
How Israel defeated 99% of Iran missiles and drones — with the help of US and an unlikely ally
Not a single drone or cruise missile fired by Iran and its proxies made it through thanks to advanced air defense systems including David’s Sling.
Iran knows they're in no danger of attack by Israel or the US if they just stop the terrorism and violence. They've probably run through a lot of money and their proxies may be getting tired of getting the snot knocked out of them.
My prediction - for what it's worth - is that this whole thing is going to wind down soon. They've already accomplished a lot of what they want by basically making Iraq their puppet state and being able to export their oil. They're not going to destroy Israel and they know it. Hamas is in the process of being destroyed. Hezbollah knows they're next if they try anything.
If Iran is smart, they'll take their money off the table and go home.
Don't want to brag, but I told y'all so.
www.theguardian.com
Just a complete faceplant by Iran. Makes their whole "This is over now" bit extra stupid. I won't blame Israel for retaliating, but at this point, Israel could back off, and say, "You know what? Yeah, this is over" and still look like the winner.
How Iran’s attack on Israel was stopped
Massive drone and missile attack was defeated by Israeli military with orchestrated help of US, UK and Jordan
Just a complete faceplant by Iran. Makes their whole "This is over now" bit extra stupid. I won't blame Israel for retaliating, but at this point, Israel could back off, and say, "You know what? Yeah, this is over" and still look like the winner.
I think they didn't want to hit anything. Slow moving drones from that far? I think they did something for internal consumption, we struck them, while hoping to prevent any retaliation.Don't want to brag, but I told y'all so.
How Iran’s attack on Israel was stopped
Massive drone and missile attack was defeated by Israeli military with orchestrated help of US, UK and Jordan
Just a complete faceplant by Iran. Makes their whole "This is over now" bit extra stupid. I won't blame Israel for retaliating, but at this point, Israel could back off, and say, "You know what? Yeah, this is over" and still look like the winner.
You might very well be right, but I don't think they could have hit anything, even if they wanted to.
Right. It's too far ....
The Iraq mission taxed the limits of the F-16 at the time, it was gutted to make it lighter and they had to fly low to the ground to avoid AD. Range has been improved for most US made planes using conformal tanks and air defense has also improved ... It would be tough to get anything other than stealth in there or maybe a huge missile barrage?
IAF getting the F-35 changes the game a bit but .. it's still too far away without refueling at least once . It could be done, maybe? If anyone could pull it off it would be the IAF.
They would probably need a B-2/B-21 or equivalent... Or go full stupid and send a nuke.
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I said the same thing in the Don't thread.
Better there than here or in Israel... The Iranians are the only ones crazy enough to use nukes as soon as they have a deliverable effective set of weapons ... Waiting around until they perfect their systems is madness in its own right...
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