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Well, she may not be entirely wrong. Putin's goal is to weaken western support for Ukraine and is getting weapons from Iran. Causing another war to take the heat off his Ukraine adventure would make sense.

I have no doubt Iran got at least an approval from Putin before they set things in motion on 10/7.

I agree with this. A drawback of sanctioning Russia and Iran so heavily for so long is that they’ve become very connected out of convenience. They really aren’t natural allies. Iran has historical grievances re: different periods of Russian meddling and occupation, deals w Iraq, land seizures. Finding a way to exploit those differences again — as the British did in the early 1900s — would be huge for the ME and at least helpful for Eastern Europe .
 
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Bet we helped with intel as to his exact location.
“They shall soon await the closure of the Mediterranean Sea, Gibraltar and other waterways”— Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Naqdi

“The general did not explain how Iran, which does not border the Mediterranean, intended to make good on its threat”
 
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My friend's son is stationed there. Hope he's OK.
We need to have a journalist or member of congress look into why President Biden is so terrified of offending Iran. If he doesn’t make an effort to stop them, he is going to be greeting coffins at Dover AFB.
 
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We need to have a journalist or member of congress look into why President Biden is so terrified of offending Iran. If he doesn’t make an effort to stop them, he is going to be greeting coffins at Dover AFB.
The whole Obama/Biden infatuation with enabling Iran is puzzling, to say the least. Sending planeloads of cash directly to Iran? And that's not considered treasonous?

Good luck getting any 'journalists' to dig into it. And if Congress does, they'll just be accused of being partisan (probably right, but it still needs to be done).

The irony is, we're the ones who refused to allow the Shah to crack down on Ayatollah's followers. We've been paying for it ever since.
 
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Allied and partner nations place their ships under US command routinely.
France, Italy, and Spain have said they wouldn’t participate (as of 12/23) in a U.S.-led operation. (Operation Prosperity Garden).

Canada, Netherlands, Norway, Seychelles, Australia, and Denmark have said they will not be sending ships.

Austin originally listed 10 member nations as a part of the operation….US, UK, Bahrain, Canada, France, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Seychelles, and Spain.

It appears the coalition will provide two ships.
 
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France, Italy, and Spain have said they wouldn’t participate (as of 12/23) in a U.S.-led operation. (Operation Prosperity Garden).

Canada, Netherlands, Norway, Seychelles, Australia, and Denmark have said they will not be sending ships.

Austin originally listed 10 member nations as a part of the operation….US, UK, Bahrain, Canada, France, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Seychelles, and Spain.

It appears the coalition will provide two ships.
We'll see. It's very unlikely that we'll not get more participation soon. These countries often drag their feet.
 
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The whole Obama/Biden infatuation with enabling Iran is puzzling, to say the least. Sending planeloads of cash directly to Iran? And that's not considered treasonous?

Good luck getting any 'journalists' to dig into it. And if Congress does, they'll just be accused of being partisan (probably right, but it still needs to be done).

The irony is, we're the ones who refused to allow the Shah to crack down on Ayatollah's followers. We've been paying for it ever since.
When a U.S. Destroyer and several other ships were attacked in the Red Sea…we did essentially, nothing
 
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Thomas Jefferson knew how to deal with Muslim attacks on Americans
Isn't that when congress told him NO war so he sent the navy and future Marines on a "special training mission"? A training mission with the clearance of "if you have any perception of feeling threatened, you are free to engage!"
That way? :)
 
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Thomas Jefferson knew how to deal with Muslim attacks on Americans

Except most of the defending he did was against the British impressment of American sailors.

Also heard he was big on religious tolerance. lol.
 
Except most of the defending he did was against the British impressment of American sailors.

Also heard he was big on religious tolerance. lol.
Well, he only created the Marine Corps to invade 'the shores of Tripoli".
 
I assume you mean those 2 are the most dovish? Disagree. Haley is itching to show she's a player on the international stage and can back up her tough talk.

Desantis is ex-military and I don't think he would take any crap from the likes of Iran.

Now, if you meant they're the most hawkish, I would agree.

I think they would be best suited to handle the problem out of all the candidates. I think a middle ground between "invade Iran" and the isolationist bent of many Trump supporters is where they are both likely to fall.

DeSantis and Haley would have hit the Houthis/Iranians in some fashion well before now.
 
I think they would be best suited to handle the problem out of all the candidates. I think a middle ground between "invade Iran" and the isolationist bent of many Trump supporters is where they are both likely to fall.

DeSantis and Haley would have hit the Houthis/Iranians in some fashion well before now.
Agreed. The Obama/Biden coddling of Iran is just inexplicable
 
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Agreed. The Obama/Biden coddling of Iran is just inexplicable

No, it’s explicable when you consider Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 (early on) sought engagement with Iran even at a time when it was more dangerous, more capable of sustained land wars. But they were being guided by Kissinger’s principles and not a populist movement. Obama and Biden have continued the tradition of arming our ME allies with the latest and best stuff. The show goes on (except in the eyes of partisans).
 
No, it’s explicable when you consider Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 (early on) sought engagement with Iran even at a time when it was more dangerous, more capable of sustained land wars. But they were being guided by Kissinger’s principles and not a populist movement. Obama and Biden have continued the tradition of arming our ME allies with the latest and best stuff. The show goes on (except in the eyes of partisans).
Not following how it's 'explicable'. Because Reagan?
 
Not following how it's 'explicable'. Because Reagan?

You said Obama and Biden’s policies towards Iran cannot be explained. But they can be explained if you look at how Reagan, Bush, Bush engaged with a much more dangerous version of Iran.

You might disagree with Biden’s approach but don’t pretend like it can’t be explained. His approach is explicable .
 
You said Obama and Biden’s policies towards Iran cannot be explained. But they can be explained if you look at how Reagan, Bush, Bush engaged with a much more dangerous version of Iran.

You might disagree with Biden’s approach but don’t pretend like it can’t be explained. His approach is explicable .
That doesn't make any sense. Reagan and Bush both were tough on Iran and certainly wouldn't have taken little action when our troops are being attacked.
 
That doesn't make any sense. Reagan and Bush both were tough on Iran and certainly wouldn't have taken little action when our troops are being attacked.

False, Reagan sold arms to the Iranians even after a democrat-led congress made it illegal, hence the Iran-Contra affair. Would they have dropped some bombs to send a message? Who’s to say? But they definitely wanted to engage w a thornier Iran more than Clinton/ Trump. That cannot be disputed. Read about it.
 
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