Israel under attack from Hamas
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Funds are fungible.
The biggest issue is not that Biden funded this - he (the US) didn’t and this line of discussion should die a needed death - but that both the Israeli and US intelligence services were caught by surprise. We’ve been led to believe these are the best at collecting information. And, yet, this large, highly-coordinated attack seems to have caught everybody with their pants down. Hundreds of rockets and multiple attacks at various points. If I were an Israeli I’d be demanding an accounting, with some serious repercussions.
Of course it hadn’t been spent. So what? Biden made a gesture and Iran gave him the finger. The treaty was canned, it was a suckers play. We gave Iran a plane- load of cash for that one too.
I agree I don’t think Biden funded this attack. He might fund some in the future with the $6 billion.
Iran funded the operation. Definite failure by the intelligence apparatus
I don’t see that argument. The attack was likely planned and paid for before the prisoner deal. But I would argue that the release of the sanction money served as at least as a measure of comfort in carrying out the attack. The trouble is that we had no idea the attack was coming. If we knew, I’d like to think our people would have advised Biden to not do the deal.
Your statement about women and my beliefs are wrong.
I put Iran, Russia and North Korea in the same pot. I don’t hate the people in the countries but the leaders need to be destroyed. They aren’t going to be destroyed so we shouldn’t be giving them $6 billion.
It’s time to end this charade. Israel needs to level and occupy Gaza and the West Bank. Kill or expel all Palestinians.
Hamas is not an insurgent group you can fight in a normal war. This will just happen again if they follow the targeted strikes playbook. The only answer is to get all non- Israeli Muslims out of the territory, with force, and settle this dispute once and for all.
Hamas is not an insurgent group you can fight in a normal war. This will just happen again if they follow the targeted strikes playbook. The only answer is to get all non- Israeli Muslims out of the territory, with force, and settle this dispute once and for all.
The six billion in escrow frees six billion held domestically for nefariousness purposes, that the escrow agent won’t approve. … Even if it hasn’t been spent yet.
The scale of the attack says to me that it was planned and funded without this six billion.
Hammas can’t realistically believe it can defeat the IDF … There is a game theory example where an ‘oppressed‘ agent will act in spite to just to inflict a loss on an ‘opponent’. Killing non-combatants indiscriminately and taking hostages maximizes the loss to the Israel, but at what price?
Perhaps the most concerning part is the whether the ransom demands for hostages took a nonlinear step, and emboldened those willing to risk hostage taking as the rewards increased.
The scale of the attack says to me that it was planned and funded without this six billion.
Hammas can’t realistically believe it can defeat the IDF … There is a game theory example where an ‘oppressed‘ agent will act in spite to just to inflict a loss on an ‘opponent’. Killing non-combatants indiscriminately and taking hostages maximizes the loss to the Israel, but at what price?
Perhaps the most concerning part is the whether the ransom demands for hostages took a nonlinear step, and emboldened those willing to risk hostage taking as the rewards increased.
Yeah, I'm trying to imagine how hundreds (thousands?) of rockets can be procured and set up to launch in a coordinated fashion without anyone catching wind of it. Makes you wonder if our (and the Israeli's) vaunted intelligence community is all it's cracked up to me.
I hope Israel blows their f’n country off the map and all the innocent freedom loving Iranians that hate their f’n government are miraculously saved.
Obama and Biden can go get f’kd for supporting a terrorist regime with billions of dollars.
5 Times the Obama Admin Insisted Cash Was the Only Way to Pay Iran - Committee on Foreign Affairs
As details of the administration’s $1.7 billion cash payment to Iran began to leak last month, the administration argued – from President Obama on down – that there was simply no other way to pay Iran. “We couldn't send them a check and we could not wire the money,” the president said on August 4.
foreignaffairs.house.gov
US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran | CNN Politics
US sent plane packed with $400 million in cash to Iran
U.S. Transferred $1.3 Billion More in Cash to Iran After Initial Payment
The Obama administration followed up a planeload of $400 million in cash it sent to Iran in January with two more such shipments in the next 19 days, totaling another $1.3 billion, according to congressional officials briefed by the U.S. State, Treasury and Justice departments. The cash settled...
www.wsj.com
And Gaza is not a particularly large area, apparently about twice the size of DC. For such a large volume of both terrorists and rockets to be coordinated it seems that some of the preparations should have been noticed. Mossad has to have deep agents infiltrated in such a small area of approximately 2.5 million people.
You betcha.
Poor black education.
Urban violence.
Urban crime.
Urban Decay
Bad border policy.
Poor military recruiting
Price of energy
Price of money
Race violence
Foreign violent adventurism.
etc
All are directly related to Biden, democratic, and left-wing policy initiatives. The left responds with blather about COVID and extreme MAGA Republicans. The media provides cover. Take the words “mandate” and “ban” out of politics and the Democrats couldn’t govern at all.
But you go on believing that Trump is the existential threat.
Amen.I hope Israel blows their f’n country off the map and all the innocent freedom loving Iranians that hate their f’n government are miraculously saved.
Obama and Biden can go get f’kd for supporting a terrorist regime with billions of dollars.
5 Times the Obama Admin Insisted Cash Was the Only Way to Pay Iran - Committee on Foreign Affairs
As details of the administration’s $1.7 billion cash payment to Iran began to leak last month, the administration argued – from President Obama on down – that there was simply no other way to pay Iran. “We couldn't send them a check and we could not wire the money,” the president said on August 4.
US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran | CNN Politics
US sent plane packed with $400 million in cash to Iranamp.cnn.com
U.S. Transferred $1.3 Billion More in Cash to Iran After Initial Payment
The Obama administration followed up a planeload of $400 million in cash it sent to Iran in January with two more such shipments in the next 19 days, totaling another $1.3 billion, according to congressional officials briefed by the U.S. State, Treasury and Justice departments. The cash settled...
Guessing Netanyahu will pay a political price here. A tragic failure. Will Gaza will be annexed?
Have you visited the "immigrant poisoned blood thread"? Is he your answer to what ails us?
Israel/ Iran war is a real possibility. We will have to pick a side. Does this administration have the moral clarity to pick the right one?
I meant discuss what specifically? The interesting political reactions?
His b-ball opinions are one of the decreasing number of things worth paying for here. And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on that view.
What's with these Rivals' ads in all the posts?
On my phone I'm getting popups of front page stories. Nothing on my computer, where I run the uBlock Origin add-on in Firefox.
Saudis calling for an immediate halt on escalation, until it happens to them
I enjoy his basketball commentary.
The ads are annoying but they have to pay the bills and make money.
If he’s run off as many bb posters as wc posters, the site will implode soon enough.
They are hoping for an Israeli attack escalating the situation causing Hezbollah and other factions and some Arab countries to enter the conflict and create a third intifada. The current administration is seen by some overseas as weak especially in this area.
Probably the opposite with (Premium/paying) basketball subscribers. The WC doesn't pay the bills.
Why shouldn’t we be moving U.S. military forces to Israel as we speak? The barbaric, Muslim world has clearly coordinated these attacks with support from several Muslim heads of state.
It would be great if we still had a base of operations in the area, say, Afghanistan maybe?, but we abandoned that for political points (what a backfire).
Laughable. The idea you think there was any enforceable treaty with Iran is laughable. There will be no deals with them until the ayatollahs are no more.
Even without knowing the attack was coming they should have advised him not to do the deal. That's the whole point. These dumb ****s were told what would happen and they did it anyway.
It's not Dems per se, it's liberalism and more importantly - leftism. It's policy and lack of policy. It's principle and lack of principle. It's understanding what is good and what is evil, it's understanding what causes peace and what causes war, it's knowing those that cause war and those that don't. It's weakness vs strength.
Appeasing evil and those that threaten it has never worked. Never will. Encourage it, strike deals with it and you get it back. Deal with it or get dealt with.
