ADVERTISEMENT

Israel under attack from Hamas

absolutely true. it was a party difference. @Baller23Boogie you're simply wrong in your assertion that it was a two way street. as marv notes it absolutely was a party difference and by county. county is the germane situs. you have to remember booger that the pandemic came in waves and while red counties shut down early on they were far faster to open up. to open everything up. it became political. when missouri counties were closed i was in naples and it was wide open. bars open. no masks etc. you can see this difference in deaths as well as the red counties began to see higher numbers of deaths compared to blue. not only lockdowns but vaccinations. you see fewer in the hardcore trump counties etc as the pandemic carried on

In terms of schools:


Scroll half way down and you can see what Holcomb, a Republican, signed that schools had to follow all year.

That was a statewide thing, not county by county.
 
  • Like
Reactions: larsIU
In terms of schools:


Scroll half way down and you can see what Holcomb, a Republican, signed that schools had to follow all year.

That was a statewide thing, not county by county.
i don't care about indiana. i'm talking across the board. the lion's share left the decision to schools and they often relied on their county. it's reflected in what you posted. if you were in a dem county like i was your kid was either home or strapped in a mask until the AG started filing lawsuits. ours sued 47 school districts
 
  • Haha
Reactions: anon_mya1phvcpf5x4
Holcomb is a Republican so you know they trust his judgment so it was ok.

Overall, I think he did a good job with covid. He did county by county, week by week. Did it suck at times? Yeah, but life isn't always roses, so why worry about things you can't control?

That didn't go for schools though. He did a one size fits all approach.
 
The lockdowns were by local Dems listening to fauci garbage that went on too long. Yes stats are stats. Life is incredibly more expensive under Biden.

As opposed to you listening to conservative garbage for far too long?

You're the comedy central of conservative propaganda.
 
i don't care about indiana. i'm talking across the board. the lion's share left the decision to schools and they often relied on their county. it's reflected in what you posted. if you were in a dem county like i was your kid was either home or strapped in a mask until the AG started filing lawsuits. ours sued 47 school districts

Then you can't say it was a Dem thing when I just showed you a Republican was doing it, especially when this is a Indiana message board where many of us live.
 
  • Like
Reactions: larsIU
Overall, I think he did a good job with covid. He did county by county, week by week. Did it suck at times? Yeah, but life isn't always roses, so why worry about things you can't control?

That didn't go for schools though. He did a one size fits all approach.

He did far better than most conservatives in that regard.
 
Then you can't say it was a Dem thing when I just showed you a Republican was doing it, especially when this is a Indiana message board where many of us live.

do you not understand majority? or duration? or timing? you can't be this thick
 
  • Haha
Reactions: anon_mya1phvcpf5x4
As opposed to you listening to conservative garbage for far too long?

You're the comedy central of conservative propaganda.
no dumbass. the difference is that i understand what i hear and read. i understand the foundation. the implications. the policy consequences. you're a blinkard. we all know you're easily manipulated. there is zero chance you are an iu grad. zero. or have any education.
 
I think Holcomb and DeWine both did fine handling COVID. I am decidedly not a fan of most of their actions, but Indiana and Ohio did better than most states in trying to strike a balance.

Yea, Holcomb handled it well (i didn't follow what dewine did).

I was more making a point that some posters it's more about what party someone else is affiliated with than what they actually did or didn't do.
 
That’s a hell of a lot of ifs. I know what actually happened. Biden is president and trump is 0-61. That said I’m not sure he’s worse than what we have with Dems. Like crazy and coh and others have said. I think the liberal mentality is more dangerous
No. You don't know everything that happened because you haven't read the DC indictment. There was a detailed plan in place for Trump to unlawfully remain in power. It required Pence's cooperation. Pence's refusal to cooperate torpedoed the plan.

"Each of the conspiracies [detailed in the indictment] - - which built on the widespread distrust the Defendant was creating through pervasive and destabilizing lies about election fraud - - targeted a bedrock function of the United States federal government: the nation's process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the presidential election." No US president had ever previously schemed to unlawfully overturn an election he lost. No US president had ever before taken a wrecking ball to the time-honored American tradition of the peaceful transfer of power. No US president had ever before slandered elections workers, pressured local elections officials to unlawfully change the election results, or otherwise attempted a coup. This was as bad as it gets.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bill4411
No. You don't know everything that happened because you haven't read the DC indictment. There was a detailed plan in place for Trump to unlawfully remain in power. It required Pence's cooperation. Pence's refusal to cooperate torpedoed the plan.

"Each of the conspiracies [detailed in the indictment] - - which built on the widespread distrust the Defendant was creating through pervasive and destabilizing lies about election fraud - - targeted a bedrock function of the United States federal government: the nation's process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the presidential election." No US president had ever previously schemed to unlawfully overturn an election he lost. No US president had ever before taken a wrecking ball to the time-honored American tradition of the peaceful transfer of power. No US president had ever before slandered elections workers, pressured local elections officials to unlawfully change the election results, or otherwise attempted a coup. This was as bad as it gets.
you will never get an argument from me that what trump did wasn't wrong and wasn't bad and that he's not bad.
 
damn you are one stupid ****. it had to do with the deleterious consequences of kids and remote learning when there was zero need for same. when the stats clearly reflected low risk to zero risk. are you seriously just a shill for the local dem party? i mean what is your story? just a complete moron? an uneducated moron?

kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bill4411
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 

do you not understand majority? or duration? or timing? you can't be this thick

Behind a paywall, so can't read.

My whole argument is that my Republican governor had my kid locked down in her classroom with a mask on because there was no way they could fit 25 kids 6 feet away from each other so they could have their mask off. That lasted her entire school year. She didn't get to meet or play with any kids in any other classes because her day was get off the bus (which she had to wear a mask), go straight to class (had to take their bookbag with them, didn't get lockers), then were in the classroom until lunch where they got to go get it, come back and eat in their classroom and then in the classroom until the day was over. That wasn't a Dem that did that, that was a Republican. If a kid had a fever, I believe it was every kid in the house was out minimum 7 days unless a negative covid test could be provided. I know this because it happened to us. My middle kid popped a fever at school, had to take youngest out, middle kid got tested by doc, test came back a couple days later, she went back to school but because youngest didn't have negative test, she still missed school and had to do virtual learning. I live in a VERY red county so that's not dems doing that either.

Again, like you, I don't care about what Missouri was doing, because I don't have a kid their. I cared what Indiana was doing, because that's what my kids and myself were dealing with.

In terms of everything else (bars, restaurants, ect.) I'm with you. Hell, when they opened, my wife and I would frequent them just so we could get out of the house. We both got the shot because concerts were requiring proof.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.

Remote learning absolutely had a negative impact on kids learning.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
 
kids are more resilient than you give them credit for and their inconvenience of remote learning was hardly as big of an issue as people dying from covid. It was necessary because hospitals were overcrowded and people that didn't even have covid were having issues receiving care. But screw them because your propaganda says social distancing and school closures were for pansies.

You are such a sheep for conservative propaganda.
no one on this board is a greater sponge for propaganda than you are grover. no one. just a vapid moron
 
This war will likely span months if not years. Mods should impose the same restrictions as they do in the Ukraine thread in regards to Trump and other off topic rabbit holes and personal attacks.

However, criticism of Biden/ Obama admins foreign policy posture towards Iran, Israel, etc. needs to remain fair game as there are some serious and blatant failures there that contextualize the situation.
 
I have looked at their tweets. Since I got rid of my Twitter account for the same reason I wouldn't buy a Tesla, it won't show me new stuff. But the old stuff that appears seems good. Doesn't change the fact that overall Twitter itself is a negative to the world.

Even the msm can make mistakes in real time. I recall CNN's people on the ground during the Iraqi scud attacks on Israel claiming a scud carried chems. I think all of us have the problem at work of needing to tell our bosses that it is very hard to be very fast and very accurate. The quicker one needs something, the more errors will creep in. That's my concern about all real-time reporting, even that by MSM. As we are discovering with other issues, once people hear something is true they are loathe to accept it isn't.
 
This war will likely span months if not years. Mods should impose the same restrictions as they do in the Ukraine thread in regards to Trump and other off topic rabbit holes and personal attacks.

However, criticism of Biden/ Obama admins foreign policy posture towards Iran, Israel, etc. needs to remain fair game as there are some serious and blatant failures there that contextualize the situation.
Could we please stay on topic here. If you must, just start a thread called Shit Throwing and have at it. Leave serious threads for serious conversation.
It's Jamie's thread. Let him decide. @JamieDimonsBalls you want us to mod this thread?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Spartans9312
Remote learning absolutely had a negative impact on kids learning.
Didn't say it didn't have an impact at the time but it didn't kill anyone (can't say that about covid) and don't think it had much a lasting impact (i.e kids caught back up).
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Pitiful....
Imagine the mental gymnastics required to defend giving anthrax to Iraq.
You totally missed the point. I was not defending selling anthrax to Iraq (I didn't, and don't), the point was that Iraq didn't use US weapons to kill the Kurds. Not US helicopters. Not US guns. Not anything US. The assertion was false, as was most in that post, yet you try to defend it.
 
No. You don't know everything that happened because you haven't read the DC indictment. There was a detailed plan in place for Trump to unlawfully remain in power. It required Pence's cooperation. Pence's refusal to cooperate torpedoed the plan.

"Each of the conspiracies [detailed in the indictment] - - which built on the widespread distrust the Defendant was creating through pervasive and destabilizing lies about election fraud - - targeted a bedrock function of the United States federal government: the nation's process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the presidential election." No US president had ever previously schemed to unlawfully overturn an election he lost. No US president had ever before taken a wrecking ball to the time-honored American tradition of the peaceful transfer of power. No US president had ever before slandered elections workers, pressured local elections officials to unlawfully change the election results, or otherwise attempted a coup. This was as bad as it gets.
This is exactly where this government and the elites that run it want you to be folks, right here in the moment above.
 
This war will likely span months if not years. Mods should impose the same restrictions as they do in the Ukraine thread in regards to Trump and other off topic rabbit holes and personal attacks.

However, criticism of Biden/ Obama admins foreign policy posture towards Iran, Israel, etc. needs to remain fair game as there are some serious and blatant failures there that contextualize the situation.
I second this.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT