ADVERTISEMENT

Israel under attack from Hamas

No. We didn’t arm them. We sold them no weapons systems. Lots of commercial systems are considered dual use, like helicopters, because someone could bolt a gun to it. It’s not armored, it has no fire control systems, etc. etc. They were no factor at all in our conflict with Iraq. You can’t read a Wikipedia article and think you know a lot about this subject. You don’t. You’ve not proven anyone wrong here.

When did you become a left wing propagandist?
Is anthrax a weapon? Your helicopter analogy is laughable. It’s like saying we sold them a gun but no bullets. Of course they were going to weaponize them dummy. Do you think they didn’t? Do you then think the rest of our military is also as dumb as you to not know what they were going to do with them? If folks like you hold rank, no wonder the intelligence community keeps failing…
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mas-sa-suta
No. Not that day it wasn't. Trump and Pence had a heated conversation on the morning of Jan 6. Trump ramped up the pressure on Pence to object to or delay Biden's certification later that day. Pence refused.

The most important words uttered that day were Pence's: "I'm not getting in that car." If he had left the Capitol (after rioters came within 40 feet of him), which is exactly what Trump wanted him to do, then all bets were off. Further delay in the certification would have allowed the fake electors scheme to quickly gain traction, and the illusion of a contested election would have taken root. A delay would also have given Trump an opening to invoke the Insurrection Act, declare martial law, and, as Trump advisor Steve Bannon put it, “kill the Biden presidency in the crib.”

Pence grew a pair and saved the day.
Wow what a story of ifs. If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Wait wait, in the brave new progressive world that might not be so.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: anon_mya1phvcpf5x4
Wow what a story of ifs. If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Wait wait, in the brave new progressive world that might not be so.
The collapse of societal norms you see by posters in this thread with “eh they should have insurance” is far more dangerous than some rogue politician who has been kicked out, lost 61 lawsuits, and been indicted four times
 
Most people don’t sit on a political message board every day or watch Fox to hear all the negative things about BLM. They believe Black Lives Matter, so they say they support it. That simple.
Right, choosing to not learn about a cause they’re going to support whether on a message board or anywhere so they can virtue signal. Willful ignorance.
 
Is anthrax a weapon? Your helicopter analogy is laughable. It’s like saying we sold them a gun but no bullets. Of course they were going to weaponize them dummy. Do you think they didn’t? Do you then think the rest of our military is also as dumb as you to not know what they were going to do with them? If folks like you hold rank, no wonder the intelligence community keeps failing…
You have no clue what you’re talking about. Trucks are dual use too. Same with the GPS you could buy for your car - now installed in your car. Or golf GPS. What possible expertise do you have? Reading something on Wikipedia isn’t expertise.

As for Anthrax, no it is not a weapon. It is a disease caused by a bacteria. The bacteria can be weaponized, but it’s traded between nations for research purposes. We did not provide Iraq with weaponized Anthrax.

The poster claimed Saddam’s Iraq used US weapons against the Kurds. They were not attacked with any US weapons. Not non-military helicopters and not by weaponized anthrax. Yet you defend the poster.

I was serious when I asked you about becoming a left winger. You make the same ignorant anti-American arguments they make.
 
Last edited:
  • Haha
Reactions: jet812
Is your point Insurance companies loot policy holders on every claim?
No. They don’t.

Insurance is a contract you sign with a third party. If you don’t know what’s in the policy you’re signing then you should hire an agent to explain it to you.

Insurance is also not simple. No matter how simple an insurance company may make it sound. Especially commercial insurance.

And yeah, riots may not be covered. Or war. But those exclusions are specifically identified within the policy. Which, again, is a contract.

Insurance companies do not like being sued for myriad reasons. And not just because they are greedy money whores (they are but they’re doing it legally). Insurance companies handle more litigation than any entity on earth. Believe me, they very much follow their policies 98% of the time.

Now, should the policies be held to stricter standards? Probably. But you’ll need to call you state reps to make any changes. Cause there are literally zero federal regulations related to insurance companies (other than typical privacy regs, possibly UDAAP). Interesting case study of the effects/benefits of weaker fed control/regulation but I’ll leave that for another thread.

I would advise you to read as carefully your insurance policy as you would any other contract you sign. Seriously. Know where the donut hole is before you fall in it.
 
Last edited:
It held. The rest is speculation. The vp instagram is posting about national coming out day today. I’ll take trump over these two clowns.
One thing is for sure. Your attitude and demeanor has really changed since I started visiting these boards. Not saying my every day life is perfect, but man life seems to have you down these days.

I hope you don't turn into some of these guys where literally every problem is the Dems fault.
 
Right, choosing to not learn about a cause they’re going to support whether on a message board or anywhere so they can virtue signal. Willful ignorance.
Some people don’t think it’s a crime to show support for a group of people, like a rainbow flag or Black Lives Matter sign. That doesn’t make them ignorant.
 
One thing is for sure. Your attitude and demeanor has really changed since I started visiting these boards. Not saying my every day life is perfect, but man life seems to have you down these days.

I hope you don't turn into some of these guys where literally every problem is the Dems fault.
nah not at all. politics is just one part of something to debate etc. it has no impact on my daily life or happiness as my friends and family don't talk about it etc. ever really. to me it's really no different than following a sports team. but i do mean what i say about the liberals/dems. i was a big supporter of clinton and obama. i think the biden/harris admin is as bad as i've ever seen and again the mentality that poisons so many libs today is far more dangerous to society than jan 6 trump or anything else. it's our social norms.
 
Not one thing wasn’t better under trump. Not one. Getting rid of Biden Harris should be the goal of everyone. And trump sucks. But my god this admin. Just ponderous
I’ll give you a bunch. Covid, unemployment, job creation, people getting prescriptions , the deficit, we didn’t go into a recession as was predicted, I happen to believe paying attention to climate and green initiatives is important, signed infrastructure and gun control. My blood pressure doesn’t rise from hearing the latest stupid thing Trump said daily , who he insulted, or who he assaulted.
 
I’ll give you a bunch. Covid, unemployment, job creation, people getting prescriptions , the deficit, we didn’t go into a recession as was predicted, I happen to believe paying attention to climate and green initiatives is important, signed infrastructure and gun control. My blood pressure doesn’t rise from hearing the latest stupid thing Trump said daily , who he insulted, or who he assaulted.
covid not better. fauci and the libs were insane with lockdowns. unemployment was low under trump. job creation was a given in light of post pandemic. the deficit was held in check by manchin and losing the house. houses are more. cars are more. your spending power is less. gas is more. life is more. foreign policy is awful with wars. the border is a mess. progressives are clueless with crime and law enforcement. this is the worst administration of my lifetime by a wide margin. biden should go down as a historically horrible president. and i know he's not responsible for hte dire conditions but it is under his watch, like a coach, and god knows he's too old and too stupid to lead us to better conditions.
 
Last edited:

Hamas’s attack was an Israeli intelligence failure on multiple fronts

It was also a textbook military operation

Hamas’s success and Israel’s intelligence failure is likely to be studied closely by armed forces around the world. In recent years, military thinkers have argued that persistent sensors and precision weapons have made it progressively harder for armies to go on the offensive, because concentrated forces tend to get spotted and hit. That trend has forced Ukraine, for instance, to forgo large-scale armoured counter-offensives in favour of smaller assaults by small teams of soldiers on foot.
Hamas’s raid shows two things. One is that large-scale infiltration remains possible, even in the face of some of the world’s most advanced surveillance technology, if an attacker is diligent and a defender complacent. That is a lesson for countries that face reckless foes across long land borders—the Baltic states or South Korea, for instance. The other is that Hamas remains a dangerous “hybrid” actor—neither an old-fashioned terrorist group nor a conventional army, but, like Hizbullah, a highly capable armed force that blends elements of both.
 
Please. I’m not going back through 1,000 comments but I don’t think that’s what you questioned me on to begin with. I know what fungible means. The Republicans and Fox have been using it constantly to trash Biden. As I said, I was pretty busy yesterday so I apologize for not knowing what AOC said. I’m sure if I watched Fox I would have heard it.

You really do need someone to teach you how to use Google. As Mark Twain said, "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." So, I will tap out before you drag me down further.
 
I can't imagine a bleaker place in the world to be born than Gaza. And I never really thought about it until Saturday. That's the lethal combination of terrorism.

There are no good v bad actors in this entire history. You can see both sides of the argument. They all have blood on their hands.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

If anyone, you can blame the British for the decision they made a hundred years ago.

 
Right. Freeze it. But that doesn’t speak to what I wrote. There’s a temporal element
Sure, but you're wrong.

Not only has that money not been used, if your notion is it's easy to spend money when you know it's coming, that changes when you don't really know it's still going to come. Or worse, additional sanctions on Iran, especially when US citizens have been killed or kidnapped.

It's a nonsensical position.
 
Sure, but you're wrong.

Not only has that money not been used, if your notion is it's easy to spend money when you know it's coming, that changes when you don't really know it's still going to come. Or worse, additional sanctions on Iran, especially when US citizens have been killed or kidnapped.

It's a nonsensical position.
That’s calling for a hell of a lot of speculation from Iran’s perspective. That Iran would be implicated. Timing. Etc.
 
That’s calling for a hell of a lot of speculation from Iran’s perspective. That Iran would be implicated. Timing. Etc.
I don't think it takes much speculation that if Iran is caught funding terrorism on the US's biggest ally in the Middle East that any issue of assets would be highly scrutinized and dealt with you.

The whole "case" against Biden is Iran funded Hamas knowing they were going to be $6B richer. Pretty simplistic view point, considering the US still controls the flow of that money and can still freeze altogether.
 
I don't think it takes much speculation that if Iran is caught funding terrorism on the US's biggest ally in the Middle East that any issue of assets would be highly scrutinized and dealt with you.

The whole "case" against Biden is Iran funded Hamas knowing they were going to be $6B richer. Pretty simplistic view point, considering the US still controls the flow of that money and can still freeze altogether.
I have no idea of the facts involved. Just another theory
 
I have no idea of the facts involved. Just another theory

But your buddies on here are blaming Biden.

We know these facts:
The $6B hasn't been touched yet.
The US still has control over that money.
The US can certainly freeze it again.


The notion that this money is fungible or any money Iran speculative gave to Hamas isn't specifically the case.
 
I’ll give you a bunch. Covid, unemployment, job creation, people getting prescriptions , the deficit
covid not better. fauci and the libs were insane with lockdowns. unemployment was low under trump. job creation was a given in light of post pandemic. the deficit was held in check by manchin and losing the house.
Sorry for interrupting this lovers quarrel, but we added like 300 billion last month to the deficit and are on track for 2 trillionish this year.

A quick side note. How awesome would it be if you two got married? You’d have to invite everyone on the board. @VanPastorMan could officiate the wedding. @larsIU could be the best man. And maybe @UncleMark could give zeke away? I’d love to do the reading. Maybe a few Ayn Rand quotes. I’m sure the Dream Team could run security. Is cray getting an invite?

P.S. my wedding gift is Bitcoin
 
Last edited:
That's an astoundingly ignorant take.
Exactly. Friend of mine had her catalytic convertor stolen and had a window smashed and steering wheel messed with on her Hyundai. Both within 2 months. She was out her deductibles and use of car for weeks. Her insurance comes up for renewal and she's informed it's gone up 100 bucks...a month. Doubled in price. But Bloom thinks the insurance companies are the ones that get hurt.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Joe_Hoopsier
I don’t have time or desire to correct all of it because I’ve done it before. Let’s just look at one part of it - Iraq’s Order of Battle (weapons and weapons systems) under the Saddam regime. He claims we armed them. WITH WHAT? Tanks? Artillery? Aircraft? Ships? Missiles? Small arms? None of that was US stuff. It was all Soviet/Russian. We did not arm Saddam’s Iraq. It’s easily looked up. It’s total nonsense which I’ve pointed out previously. Most of what he posted was total nonsense and some was kinda sorta true if you stretch it really wildly. This is standard left wing propaganda which I’ve dealt with here on many occasions. Like I said, it’s tiresome.
There are only so many hours in a day. Sometimes it is just shaje your head and move on.
 
There are no good v bad actors in this entire history. You can see both sides of the argument. They all have blood on their hands.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

If anyone, you can blame the British for the decision they made a hundred years ago.

Nope, this moral equivalency stuff is bull shit. You know how I know? Because if given a list of countries you would be forced to live in in the Middle East, if Israel is one of the choices, that is the one you would pick. (And I said normal person, not a rich person who can take advantage of their money to get away with things in a place like Dubai.)
 
But your buddies on here are blaming Biden.

We know these facts:
The $6B hasn't been touched yet.
The US still has control over that money.
The US can certainly freeze it again.


The notion that this money is fungible or any money Iran speculative gave to Hamas isn't specifically the case.
And for the millionth time, that was the last and most recent transaction. You keep ignoring the other instances where first Obama and then Biden flat out gave cash and/or made it easier for them to obtain money by easing economic restrictions. Obama gave them almost $2 billion in cash 7 years ago and said it was the only way he could give them money he shouldn't have been giving them in the first place. The political right has criticized the JCPOA for exactly this reason (among otherd) for nearly a decade. More recently Biden started giving the Palestinians hundreds of millions of dollars (that Trump had cut off) even in the face of his own advisors saying it would end up in the hands of terrorists.

The most recent $6 billion was just an indication that Iran didn't need to keep its powder dry. Use up the rockets you have boys because more are on the way. THAT is where Obama/Biden bear some responsibility.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4IUSox2
Blinken and Netanyahu holing a joint news conference from Israel. Very strong language by both and no doubt Israel has our full support.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Indyhorn
Nope, this moral equivalency stuff is bull shit. You know how I know? Because if given a list of countries you would be forced to live in in the Middle East, if Israel is one of the choices, that is the one you would pick. (And I said normal person, not a rich person who can take advantage of their money to get away with things in a place like Dubai.)

If life is only this simple.....

As one wise man once said: Nuance.
 
If life is only this simple.....

As one wise man once said: Nuance.
Some things really are that simple. Would you rather live under a Chinese system or a US? A Russian or an Italian? An Israeli or an Iranian?

We all know you chose Singapore as opposed to Beijing or Shanghai.

You "nuance" and moral equivalence shmucks are a joke. "Well the US does bad stuff too...." Show me who doesn't. "Exactly!" You say as if that is some gotcha. Because in the moral equivalists mind, all crimes are equal. Nuance is merely code for anti-westernism. You aren't perfect and we want to knock you down a peg. Meanwhile the developing world......
 
Syrian state media reporting Israeli attacks on airports in Damascus and Aleppo, per Guardian. I don't see what Israeli has to gain by doing that so I'm assuming it's BS, but there it is, just in case.
 
What happened to that 750,000 man Russian winter offensive you guaranteed would happen last winter? When did you become an anti-American Russophile?
I advised you to stop lying about this. You refuse to do so, and continue to post this falsehood.

It is possible to love my country but not it's government, a dichotomy beyond your comprehension.

You're publicly embarrassing yourself.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Indianaftw
All you need to do is look at the tweets from most major cities the past couple days. There are large groups already here. Who knows how many are not even showing their faces.

The summer of Love was a small glimpse of what can be accomplished. Imagine hateful groups with guns rampaging. Jeeezuz.
Likely, you will witness this sooner rather than later.
But not to worry...the US elite intelligence Leviathan will get around to finding them...just as soon as it completes it's attacks on law abiding citizens who DARE question this corrupt and criminal ruling clique.
 
Is anthrax a weapon? Your helicopter analogy is laughable. It’s like saying we sold them a gun but no bullets. Of course they were going to weaponize them dummy. Do you think they didn’t? Do you then think the rest of our military is also as dumb as you to not know what they were going to do with them? If folks like you hold rank, no wonder the intelligence community keeps failing…
Non-stop gaslighting from the Company Man.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT