Bruce Springsteen’s Fans Have Had Enough
The Boss is starting to hear it from his underlings.
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Is it time to stick a fork in DeSantis?
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You really need to find a better source of news. Damn, that's one POS website.Bruce Springsteen’s Fans Have Had Enough
The Boss is starting to hear it from his underlings.
In Florida, Michelangelo's David is now considered "porn" in schools.
Unbelievable stupidity. When my kids were 2, 5 ,and 8 we waited in line to see the real David in Florence.
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Unbelievable stupidity. When my kids were 2, 5 ,and 8 we waited in line to see the real David in Florence.
Florida Principal Ousted After Parents Melt Down Over Michelangelo’s ‘Pornographic’ Statue of David
REUTERS/Tony GentileA Florida charter school principal has been ousted after multiple parents complained that their sixth graders were made to view pornography—because they looked at Michelangelo’s iconic statue of David.The statue was shown during a sixth grade art history lesson at Tallahassee...
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I may have been a little too tough on DeSantis for his foreign policy views. He may well be more in line with solid conservative Republicans, such as me, foreign policy than I thought. If this article is describing him correctly, he is.
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The DeSantis Foreign Policy: Hard Power, but With a High Bar
When Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida made headlines recently by undercutting U.S. support for Ukraine, Republican hawks, many of whom cling to him as their only hope to defeat former President Donald Trump, wondered if they had misread him as an ideological ally. DeSantis ditched his previous...
I think DeSantis would be a fine president.I may have been a little too tough on DeSantis for his foreign policy views. He may well be more in line with solid conservative Republicans, such as me, foreign policy than I thought. If this article is describing him correctly, he is.
The DeSantis Foreign Policy: Hard Power, but With a High Bar
When Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida made headlines recently by undercutting U.S. support for Ukraine, Republican hawks, many of whom cling to him as their only hope to defeat former President Donald Trump, wondered if they had misread him as an ideological ally. DeSantis ditched his previous...
And I think he would win.
We just need to get rid of Trump first.
I prefer Haley of the announced candidates, but I'd very likely vote for DeSantis should he win the nomination.
I am DeSantis first but I believe Nikki Haley would be a hell of a running mate....
White noise. Whether it’s Orban, Erdogan, BiBi, Bolsonaro, Bukele. You can bet your bottom dollar that effective and popular right wing politicians abroad will be labeled as autocrats by the Democratic Party.
It’s part of their larger war on competence.
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The Opportunity and the Risk Before Ron DeSantis | National Review
It’s too early for panic for Ron DeSantis or his supporters, but there are some ominous chords being played in the early campaign soundtrack.
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“the more DeSantis emphasizes to current Trump supporters how he is like Trump, the more both the pro- and anti-Trump folks will ask, ‘wait, if you’re so much like Trump, and we already have Trump, what do we need you for?’”
The answer is …to win
As I pushed for a Bernie representation in 2016, and 2020, I was increasingly frustrated by how he was railroaded out of a commanding position by the powers that be that simply needed a Dem/Clinton talking head.
Meanwhile, I saw an old school NY Dem win the GOP by regurgitating 1980's Dem talking points in an actual open primary.
Shoulda been Bernie v Trump.
Meanwhile, I saw an old school NY Dem win the GOP by regurgitating 1980's Dem talking points in an actual open primary.
Shoulda been Bernie v Trump.
Interesting. Are you a Q anon or whatever it’s called guy? They started as Bernie anti establishment and gravitated to trump
Absolutely not.
I believe in a fair market, popular feel system.
In 2016 (and 2020) It was obviously Trump v Bernie as the popular candidates.
The GOP tried to railroad Trump out, but were unsuccessful. He somehow derailed the rigged system. That was great.
The DNC ****ed Bernie, and a group of other better candidates. Instead, we get a career grifter, that can't even manage his own family, not to mention the actual country.
Get Bernie up there versus Trump...and throw Rand Paul in as an Independent. Let them debate.
Trump vs Bernie?
Dear god
Bernie was not the popular choice which is why Biden was installed as the best hope to beat trump
Howard Schultz’s testimony and exchange with Bernie was interesting. Schultz calls himself an independent. Called Bernie out for repeatedly calling him a billionaire like it’s a dirty word. Said he grew up in subsidized housing and his parents never owned a home. That he earned his money. More interesting in the context of unionization imo is his characterization of sbx as America’s best first job. Somewhere along the way, and I think it’s a recent phenomenon, the left has lost the notion of shitty low paying jobs as being first jobs, pt jobs, retirement jobs, as opposed to careers and jobs intended to support a family
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I would argue that the right fails to understand the basic math that there aren't enough teenagers and retirees to fill all those shitty jobs. Next time you have to wait too long for your coffee, remind yourself it's because they couldn't find enough people to staff that store.
Post pandemic that’s true. It didn’t seem to be an issue pre pandemic. As the population ages it’ll be interesting to see how many older folks “retire” into those jobs
Who says? There are tons of teenagers that aren’t working and aren’t interested in working in my observation. They’d be qualified for the kinds of jobs I had as a teenager. Teenagers aren’t developing a work ethic or learning the discipline it takes to hold a job. They can surely pour coffee for 17 bucks an hour at Starbucks. Are there stats that show there aren’t enough able bodied teenagers for those kinds of jobs.
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probably too many parents giving the teenagers everything they could want and thus they have no incentive to actually work.
The years I spent in restaurants says. 12 million jobs in that industry alone, earning an average of about $14/hr. That eats up half our high schoolers right there, before we even get to grocery stores, Walmarts, etc. Not to mention those factory jobs that advertise starting pay at $16/hr. These are not starter jobs for most. They are careers.
So that fits with my observations. Not enough teenagers are interested in or motivated for working.
Even if you're right, it doesn't solve the problem. Those jobs need to be staffed. Many of them by career employees.
I dont know whether you’re right or wrong but I do know converting many of these jobs to high(er) paying “career” jobs puts a wrench in the system. It will lead to more automation, closures, inflation, and offshoring. Some jobs just aren’t intended to pay well.
They’re not career jobs. They might lead to career jobs, but they’re entry level or for teenagers saving for college or a car or something and seniors looking for a little supplemental income or to keep busy.
You think the guy cooking your steak isn't engaged in a career job? Then stay home and cook your own damn dinner.
I don't know that they need to be paid more than they are. I mean, some of them probably do, some of them probably don't. I'm just trying to push back against this idea that entire swaths of industry - namely service and retail, but like I mentioned above, even some manufacturing - is made up of a handful of "job creators" surrounded by grateful teenagers getting work experience and retirees finding a reason to get out of the house. I used to be friendly with a teller at a bank. She was with that bank for decades. Never got to retire, because she died out of nowhere - stroke or something. She probably never made more than $30K doing that job, but it was her career. The idea that her job doesn't need to pay well specifically because it was never intended to be anything other than a starter job, personally I find insulting.
Yeah we’re going to disagree. It’s incumbent on people to try to get out of those jobs. Fast food. sbx. tellers. six flaggs workers. kids and old people. not lifers
Not usually. I moved up from bus boy and dishes to cooking on occasion in my first restaurant job. We had steak on the menu, but not great steak. If it’s a really nice restaurant and he’s a Chef, sure, could be career. I do a really fine steak, by the way - now.
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Look, I have no problem distinguishing between entry-level and career positions within an industry. I just have a problem with hand-waving huge swathes of the workforce away as being in the wrong job. It's perfectly possible for "barista" to be a starter job and a career position (i.e., get promoted into management, and save up to eventually buy your own franchise, or something). Lots of landscaping companies around my part of the state started thirty years ago as summer lawnmowing gigs.
Additionally, I'm also saying that a lot more of those jobs are on the career end than you two probably realize. When I ran the restaurant in Ohio, we had a couple of positions for teenagers or housewives (host), and a couple of positions for down-and-out adults who couldn't do any better (dish, busser), but most of them were career track. The cooks wanted to be chefs and eventually their own bosses (three of our previous sous chefs now own their own restaurants in the Toledo area), the bartenders had similar aspirations. Servers, well, they are a unique breed, a mixture of temp job and career job, but the good ones make so much money (and hide so much of it from the government) that they aren't going to complain about wages, anyway.
There are exceptions. We have an up or out policy in the Navy and I didn’t agree with it. An E5 has to advance to E6 on active duty or he’s out at 16 years, 4 short of 20 year retirement. I’ve known E4s and E5s that are darn good at that level and would be happy to stay there, but have no choice.
The teller was probably a very fine teller and was content to stay there. There’s no shame in that and it shouldn’t be insulting to recognize it.
I don’t disagree with any of that. Starter jobs can lead to careers in the same field or industry. My first Navy job was a starter job which led to a career.
That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying every job needs a raise. It's the lack of respect that bothers me. I don't like it when people dismiss jobs as "starter" jobs or "retirement" jobs. Some people are happy in that role and take that shit seriously, and they deserve respect. A job is a job, whether it makes you rich or not, and if we are going to try to take capitalism seriously, then we need to respect people doing jobs. Any jobs.
