I don’t care which you prefer. The debate is which one coaches prefer. And that’s not even a question. If Tony Bennett could’ve had Zion or Barrett this year you think he would’ve passed? Please
If Indiana adopted the oad model would you buy in?
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Zion averaged 2 ppg from 3 and shot behind the line only when he was dared. His shot mechanics are horrific.
Barrett knocked down contested 3’s and has much better shot mechanics. Barrett demonstrated he could hit the step back from NBA range.
Another question is Zion’s long term propensity for injuries. When you have 280 lbs coming down on knees and feet over an 82 game schedule his legs will stressed especially considering the height he plays at around the rim.
ehhh -- i'm sure he passed on some head cases but I agree he would have prob wanted Zion.
but i dig that you can speak in such absolutes for the man. i mean you did once have a dream that you fished with him...
Of course RMK wanted the best talent. In a book it talked about Knight really wanting Shawn Kemp. Not saying he would of paid for him. But he would of. Brought him in with all his issues. Knight knew what was going on and how the game was played at that time.
That’s right I forgot Indiana has higher standards when it comes to recruits.
Yours truly,
Bud mackey
It’s well established you have a personal, non-mainstream definition of the word “fact”. Lol.
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What he believed to be best and what you believe to be best are clearly not identical.
you just talk s?!;t bro. I don’t remember his recruitment of Alan Iverson as an example who was clearly the top guard in his class.
Speaking of integrity.....did you eat your most disgusting hat like you said you would if IU bball didn't finish 6th or higher? We need proof, maybe a link or two.
I was present when RMK was bass fishing on some family property in Owen County sometime in the early 80's. One of the bigger highlights I have to share.
"Greenspan asked if they were having an “Al-Qaeda meeting,” when talking in Arabic to another player"
Said the man who hired the man who recruited Bud Mackey.
Only a Billy Gillespie fan would post a comment like that.
eff off.
On one side we have an unlimited unprovable absolute-ALL coaches would want him.
On the other hand we have as limited as possible an unprovable absolute and you question the logical basis of the maximally limited absolute (one coach wouldn’t have wanted him). Jeez. UK logic in a nutshell.
RMK and the IU fanbase have similar outlooks. If you look at the results of this hilljack’s poll you will see 2-1 IU fans do not like OAD. Zion was the archetypical OAD. I do not believe RMK would have been interested in an unquestionably OAD player.
Funny about Tony Bennett. He would blow up the team chemistry and bring in Zion to have Zion pulling down rebounds and driving the length of the floor and putting up shots. That would have been interesting because if Zion had gone to Virginia then likely Bennett comes up dry just as Duke came up dry with him.
You seem to use that phrase or one very similar quite often. If you have no reasonable response you use it. You likely also used it very very often when you screwed up enough courage to hit on a girl.
I get it. You thought making a case for Barrett over Zion would make you appear analytical and outside the box.
But you used nothing but unoriginal tropes and the one thing you thought you could hang your hat on, shooting, is debatable at best.
Now you’re left hoping for an injury to bring down the player that was clearly superior in every aspect, to make you “right”.
Not at all. I have always wondered how Zion will fare with injuries in the NBA. That is a lot of weight and in combination with an explosive vertical style it seemed to me he will be at higher probability of injuries.
About shooting absolutely nothing out of the box and am sure many NBA scouts have written something similar.
I don't care what IU does when it comes to recruiting OaD vs 3-4 year guys. I prefer to build programs like UNC, Nova, and UVA with 3-4 year players. I'd hate to see them landing 6 guys who come in for year and move on.
I'll mix in a Romeo caliber player anytime. I think he was outstanding this year but the plan of giving him the ball in iso's when the shot clock was running down was bad idea on Archie's part. I don't think he will fall to the spurs at 19 but would love to go see him play for the Austin spurs for a year.
I'll mix in a Romeo caliber player anytime. I think he was outstanding this year but the plan of giving him the ball in iso's when the shot clock was running down was bad idea on Archie's part. I don't think he will fall to the spurs at 19 but would love to go see him play for the Austin spurs for a year.
Get the best players OAD or otherwise. A mix of OAD and 4 year players is ideal.
Hmmm, I don't recall that promise but it wouldn't have been an unrealistic. I always keep my commitments, although eating a hat would be difficult. I will look for this commitment of mine it the heap, sounds like you must have a link though.
Hope that one is made of pie crust.
I am not finding the post, but it could be...I rarely make predictions. Upset surely has it.
There's a huge difference in signing a OAD and following the OAD model (Duke, UK, etc). I have no problem with Indiana signing a OAD caliber prospect as long as he's committed to working and putting the team first. I do find it unrealistic that IU would ever be in contention to sign 4-6 OAD a year and continuously reload like the Duke's and UK's of the world without Indiana playing the game. IU just doesn't have the notoriety as a program to pull that off without some serious shady business.
OAD players want and really need to be featured. The offense must revolve around them. That is why they are not conducive to building multi season team chemistry for a real championship run. They are disruptive to multi season strategies and you can’t make that go away by imagining it won’t be so.
I guess it makes a lot more sense if you are just looking for regular season win totals.
You want some facts?
Virginia actually offered Zion. So they offer him a scholarship but they don’t want him?
Please admit how wrong you are.
Just like now (and in no way blaming Romeo for this just the way it transpired) lousy season with a OAD and next season at best a mystery.
I said RMK wouldn’t want him and interesting if he went to VA since scratch the championship in likelihood.
You make a very broad absolute statement that all coaches would have wanted him on the roster. In that case if a single coach wouldn’t have wanted him then your statement is proven wrong. I propose that RMK is that case because he wouldn’t want an OAD.
You recruit the best players possible. Period. End of story. There is no other strategy.
If they stay one year, fine. If they stay 3-4, great. That part is irrelevant though. Every coach is recruiting the very best players they possibly can though.
If they stay one year, fine. If they stay 3-4, great. That part is irrelevant though. Every coach is recruiting the very best players they possibly can though.
The bad thing for a coach like Bennett is that he has a lot of alumni/fan pressure to offer to a guy like Zion so maybe best to offer knowing he won’t go their.
No you claimed directly that Virginia wouldn’t have wanted him. Obviously you’re clueless to reality or the fact that they offered him. Now you’re back tracking.
RMK won big when he had the best players. He recruited dozens of 5 star type players. It’s a complete myth that Knight won with a bunch of 3 star subpar athletes. Complete nonsense.
That is complete BS. With RMK he was recruiting based on putting the pieces together to win a championship.
Having the best player in college basketball would’ve cost them the championship?! You honestly believe this?
You weren’t even alive when Knight was winning championships. You’re just believing the myth.
