Nice try. I’m a grad. I’d prefer there be more fans like myself and fewer like you. You know, The fanboy types who accept and continue to promote mediocrity with your continued support of an administration and A.D. who are directly responsible for our shi#tty results in basketball and football the past decade.
If Indiana adopted the oad model would you buy in?
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Nice try. I’m a grad. I’d prefer there be more fans like myself and fewer like you. You know, The fanboy types who accept and continue to promote mediocrity with your continued support of an administration and A.D. who are directly responsible for our shi#tty results in basketball and football the past decade.
This is a really dumb post. So, I should be against wanting a winning program? Ok
Some do some don’t. I only gave my opinion of liking all the talent coming through. Btw I am also a UK grad. BSW from EKU and MSW from UK.
This is a really dumb post. So, I should be against wanting a winning program? Ok
Reread and try again. You want Win at all cost, not an attitude most alumni have. why worry about the various aspects of a college program when you can just follow a pro team (or KY) where those inconvenient aspects don't exist.
Please don’t be insulted. The fact that you didn’t go to IU doesn’t exclude your fandom or your overall support for the program. All are welcome, even if you didn’t attend the school. Please consider continuing to follow the Hoosiers and learning more about the special traditions that many of us have known of for years and years.
You're scaring me if you are an alum. I'll try again. The original question was would you embrace Indiana using the OAD model. If you read it carefully you will not see the words win at all cost in the question.
I responded with the above post. At no point did I say I want to win at all cost. That's just gibberish you made up in your head.
Under RMK the goal was to win the Big Ten title. Of course that was when everybody played each team in the conference twice and there was no made for television tournament.
Now nobody seems to care about the Big Ten tournament or a conference championship. It’s all about going deep in the NCAA tournament.
2021 is the end of oad. Kids will go straight to the league or have to go to school. I think they should make it a 2 yr minimum if they chose to go to school
They will be the new OAD, after the original OAD become Right Out Of High School, None and Done.
I'm confused: What OAD model? Adam Silver says those days are over, as of 2021:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/07/10/adam-silver-nba-one-and-done/773991002/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/07/10/adam-silver-nba-one-and-done/773991002/
This is in reference to now, not in 2021 when none and done returns. Let the kwamie browns of the world come back and suck the life out of franchises again
You can walk it back all you want, you support whatever wins... you made that clear.
And being an alum, I care much more about the integrity and culture of the program than do those here that don't have the deep connections and expectations.
The irony of you claiming you have integrity. How about you work on not being a liar and provide a link to back up your claim? Keep arguing with the voices in your head.
Now, which troll are you? Not familiar with this username...Difficult to keep up these days.
Apparently difficult for you to keep up in general. But as a non-alum, you’re still welcome. Just try to learn more about the program before you spout off. It’ll be a better look for you.
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Look for None and Done and One and Done players to be the majority of the NBA talent.
Only the late bloomers and late developing talents will join the NBA later. College basketball will be older and less talented, and less future hype of players by the news media, because most of them will never play in the NBA.
Only the late bloomers and late developing talents will join the NBA later. College basketball will be older and less talented, and less future hype of players by the news media, because most of them will never play in the NBA.
oops...looks like you forgot which troll username you were in before responding. Sloppy troll boy...sloppy.
There will always be kids who want to get a meaningful college education first and only then move on to NBA.
Evan Eschmeyer comes to mind with his Northwestern career and EECS/Learning Sciences degree.
Evan Eschmeyer comes to mind with his Northwestern career and EECS/Learning Sciences degree.
Is the idea that landing several one and done recruits a year something we could just opt in to?
If so, I think there would be a long waiting list.
If so, I think there would be a long waiting list.
No idea what you’re babbling about now. Was reiterating that you’re welcome as a fan, even though you never attended IU. Why is that a problem for you?
You checked which usetname you were in before responding to me. Good boy. Pretty embarrassing when you f that up huh?
Funny, I just Watched Virginia win a National Championship and to my knowledge no one and dones. They have several kids including the Guy kid coming out as Juniors, But only after they won the Championship.
And you’re not a coach getting paid millions of dollars to win.
Do you honestly think there’s a single college coach who wouldn’t love to have Zion on their team? This isn’t even a rational discussion. Let’s get real.
You are not right. This year Is a good example OAD dominated teams didn’t win the championship. Much better to have some time to develop team chemistry and leadership and individual skills for a championship run.
I understand why many are now again forecasting Barrett to be the top pick rather than Zion. I don’t know that he will be but I understand the reasoning.
The most important point in defending Zion in the NBA will be to start falling prior to Charge contact because if you absorb the full energy likely be in the training room quickly trying to remember where you are and how many fingers you have.
And let’s not forget the timeless story of Thomas Payne. He was in a new Cadillac registered to a dealership in Pennsylvania when arrested. . Who but KY would recruit a 7’ 1” player who didn’t think he would be identified as a serial rapist? I really can’t think of any other program.
You aren’t very good at statistics are you?
How many teams had a OAD vs didn’t have one? Each year maybe 10-15 teams have them and over 300 don’t.
So yes, more times than not a team without a OAD will win the championship. That’s basic statistics. But your odds are better with them than without them. By a factor of at least 10.
Again, this isn’t complicated and it’s not even a debate. Guys like Coach K, Calipari, Self, Williams, etc aren’t dumb. They just aren’t. People on message boards often are though.
The only University in the States that photoshops team photos so not easy to identify players.
That was my original point. With a coach the caliber of Knight ods are better over a four year span to allow him to develop players.
I really prefer having four year players that develop than OAD’s. You clearly don’t so to each his own.
A fan of VA this year has seen the trials of players for years and so satisfying to win the championship. If Duke has won its like okay who do we recruit next.
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Feepaw has often identified himself as more of a pUKe guy than an IU guy. He doesn't even try to argue that anymore.
But who will be the better player five years in. I will go with Barrett. NBA is moving away from rim players like Zion for a reason. I doubt Ziion will ever be feared from 3 pts and Barrett will be.
Zion was a more efficient three point shooter than Barrett this year.
