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Sounds like we don't need Pete.
Wouldn't that be true of any leader who surrounds themselves with competency?

I have no idea if Pete has been working while on leave or what. On the surface, it doesn't look great. On the other hand, I seriously doubt conservatives really think it is the DoT's job to hire private truck drivers.
 

He has been out since mid-August with ships backed up in ports and our trucking industry not being able to keep up. We don't need to tiptoe around it, this administration is dropping the ball all over the place. They are being given latitude by the press and by people on this board because they are Democrats. They have been incompetent on all levels: COVID response has been neurotic and unhelpful, multiple foreign policy gaffes (Afghanistan and the row with France over submarines being recent examples), energy policies that reduced domestic energy production only to turn around and beg for help from OPEC and Russia because of increasing prices, inflation that has things like chicken and beef up 15 to 20% in cost year over year, extended unemployment benefits in a labor market starved for labor, Transportation secretary MIA while our supply chain is breaking down.

These guys suck.
 

He has been out since mid-August with ships backed up in ports and our trucking industry not being able to keep up. We don't need to tiptoe around it, this administration is dropping the ball all over the place. They are being given latitude by the press and by people on this board because they are Democrats. They have been incompetent on all levels: COVID response has been neurotic and unhelpful, multiple foreign policy gaffes (Afghanistan and the row with France over submarines being recent examples), energy policies that reduced domestic energy production only to turn around and beg for help from OPEC and Russia because of increasing prices, inflation that has things like chicken and beef up 15 to 20% in cost year over year, extended unemployment benefits in a labor market starved for labor, Transportation secretary MIA while our supply chain is breaking down.

These guys suck.
Have you considered investing in gold?
 
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Millions of voters don’t see a problem with that. That is a problem. A sense of responsibility for your job ain’t what it used to be. Law students at Columbia asking for and receiving time off from exams to cope with Eric Garner’s death was kinduva wake up call for me. I wonder about the sense of responsibility those lawyers have today. More than once waitstaff has apologized for slow service because they are short of workers. I’m told people don’t even call in, they just don’t show up.
So should I have put in for leave this morning while taking a Zoom call and fishing in my kayak? One thing we've learned during COVID is that many people can successfully blend work time with family time.
 
So should I have put in for leave this morning while taking a Zoom call and fishing in my kayak? One thing we've learned during COVID is that many people can successfully blend work time with family time.
maybe. the guy is new to the job. how adroit at it can he be after eight months. if the reports are accurate to many it looks like a guy sitting home making 250,000 a year on the taxpayer's backs during a pandemic. not good optics.
 

He has been out since mid-August with ships backed up in ports and our trucking industry not being able to keep up. We don't need to tiptoe around it, this administration is dropping the ball all over the place. They are being given latitude by the press and by people on this board because they are Democrats. They have been incompetent on all levels: COVID response has been neurotic and unhelpful, multiple foreign policy gaffes (Afghanistan and the row with France over submarines being recent examples), energy policies that reduced domestic energy production only to turn around and beg for help from OPEC and Russia because of increasing prices, inflation that has things like chicken and beef up 15 to 20% in cost year over year, extended unemployment benefits in a labor market starved for labor, Transportation secretary MIA while our supply chain is breaking down.

These guys suck.
Umm there is no federal trucking fleet. There is no federal shipping fleet.

Unless you want government to take over the supply chain since it's obvious that the private sector can't handle it (I'm kidding).

They're working with WalMart, UPS, FedEx and have been all summer etc to get them to step up for the greater good with their private fleet.

Unless you can point to a government function that is the cause of it (COH tried to by pulling up a state policy) but it's not customs and it's not the tools....it's the man power along with the effect of a volitile demand cycle (as the lead times can be up to three to six months so if a retailer or parts manufacturer is threading the JIT (just in time) calculations, it has a nasty ripple effect.

Maybe Biden should demand that all males over 65 need to get off their retired asses and go unload some cargo?
 
Umm there is no federal trucking fleet. There is no federal shipping fleet.

Unless you want government to take over the supply chain since it's obvious that the private sector can't handle it (I'm kidding).

They're working with WalMart, UPS, FedEx and have been all summer etc to get them to step up for the greater good with their private fleet.

Unless you can point to a government function that is the cause of it (COH tried to by pulling up a state policy) but it's not customs and it's not the tools....it's the man power along with the effect of a volitile demand cycle (as the lead times can be up to three to six months so if a retailer or parts manufacturer is threading the JIT (just in time) calculations, it has a nasty ripple effect.

Maybe Biden should demand that all males over 65 need to get off their retired asses and go unload some cargo?
Pete is demonstrating more us/them. No Difft than flaunting mask rules. Go to any local employer and take 3 months off after 8 months on the job. Within 2 months of flma running they'll find a reason to fire ya
 
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Pete is demonstrating more us/them. No Difft than flaunting mask rules. Go to any local employer and take 3 months off after 8 months on the job. Within 2 months of flma running they'll find a reason to fire ya
He announced his twins the first week of September so I'm not sure where this three months off is coming from (other than saying it was August and counting Aug, Sept and Oct).

I'll give ya there's some bad optics but in today's environment you have to be able to plan for when the opposition is going to go after you I guess (,again it's been mentioned all summer).

Granted he knows the game enough that knowing this optic was out there going into the 4 quarter he should have been less public about his paternity leave, I guess.

Still at the end of the day this crisis is mainly a private sector issue (until it can be proven that vaccine mandates which have just started to be implemented).

I mean that didn't stop the right wing media from saying that was why Southwest had a issue last week.
 
Yeah we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not a fan of gov employees making a quarter of a million dollars paid by taxpayers and taking 3 months off the first year on the job. (and it may be bs. he may be still working a lot - but if true)
Is there much difference between ... what's his pronoun?... being off 3 months and not being off 3 months? Can we actually tell the difference? OR is he just someone WE pay 1/4 mill because he ran for pres once?
 
He announced his twins the first week of September so I'm not sure where this three months off is coming from (other than saying it was August and counting Aug, Sept and Oct).

I'll give ya there's some bad optics but in today's environment you have to be able to plan for when the opposition is going to go after you I guess (,again it's been mentioned all summer).

Granted he knows the game enough that knowing this optic was out there going into the 4 quarter he should have been less public about his paternity leave, I guess.

Still at the end of the day this crisis is mainly a private sector issue (until it can be proven that vaccine mandates which have just started to be implemented).

I mean that didn't stop the right wing media from saying that was why Southwest had a issue last week.
Is there much difference between ... what's his pronoun?... being off 3 months and not being off 3 months? Can we actually tell the difference? OR is he just someone WE pay 1/4 mill because he ran for pres once?
3 months is what FMLA allows. Less public isn't the point. The crisis is only tangentially the point. If you are paid to work then work. If you are in his position being paid by us and working for us than you really need to work. This bottleneck is impacting people's lives. Millions of people. It's selfish as hell imo. Even if he can't directly impact it make a showing that you are there trying.
Again I do believe it's a philosophical and perhaps generational divide. I think it's despicable - assuming it's accurate. . I told my stoker and she said "awwww good for him."
 
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Is there much difference between ... what's his pronoun?... being off 3 months and not being off 3 months? Can we actually tell the difference? OR is he just someone WE pay 1/4 mill because he ran for pres once?
Umm he wasn't off for three months, ie 91 days.

So there's already problem one in this right wing lynching.

Problem two is it's nonsensical to begin with as the global backlog isn't a government function.

But continue on. It was cloudy today. Let's go Brandon!
 
3 months is what FMLA allows. Less public isn't the point. The crisis is only tangentially the point. If you are paid to work then work. If you are in his position being paid by us and working for us than you really need to work. This bottleneck is impacting people's lives. Millions of people. It's selfish as hell imo.
Again I do believe it's a philosophical and perhaps generational divide. I think it's despicable - assuming it's accurate. . I told my stoker and she said "awwww good for him."
I guess I'm struggling on what he is hindering that could be fixed as again, this is a private sector problem on a global scale.

If we just need a government face then, I'll give you that.

The adoption of his twins weren't convenient.

Curious what he does now, I'm guessing you'll be seeing his mug all over now since the right brought him out.
 
Umm there is no federal trucking fleet. There is no federal shipping fleet.

Unless you want government to take over the supply chain since it's obvious that the private sector can't handle it (I'm kidding).

They're working with WalMart, UPS, FedEx and have been all summer etc to get them to step up for the greater good with their private fleet.

Unless you can point to a government function that is the cause of it (COH tried to by pulling up a state policy) but it's not customs and it's not the tools....it's the man power along with the effect of a volitile demand cycle (as the lead times can be up to three to six months so if a retailer or parts manufacturer is threading the JIT (just in time) calculations, it has a nasty ripple effect.

Maybe Biden should demand that all males over 65 need to get off their retired asses and go unload some cargo?
Is port cargo capacity part of the infrastructure bill.? Sounds like it should be.
 
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I think you didn't understand my comment, It was sarcasm. To be more succinct;
He should be there everyday, 18 hours a day, zero question. But with our gov, do you really think there would be a difference if he was or wasn't there?
I vote that I demand! a leader's presence makes a significant difference and if that leader doesn't, they get lambasted for gaming the system.
 
So should I have put in for leave this morning while taking a Zoom call and fishing in my kayak? One thing we've learned during COVID is that many people can successfully blend work time with family time.
If Buttigieg wants to act as a general employee, he should resign the cabinet and apply. We have never seen a transportation crisis like we have now. Buttigieg needs to be on station.
 
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maybe. the guy is new to the job. how adroit at it can he be after eight months. if the reports are accurate to many it looks like a guy sitting home making 250,000 a year on the taxpayer's backs during a pandemic. not good optics.
I was responding to the perception of the millions in CoH's post, but i do agree Pete has a critical political issue here for his future.

As far as public perception, CoH is right there is a large percentage that will support Pete's choice if he can convince people he wasn't spending weeks snuggling all day on the couch. If we want younger politicians, we need to get used to the fact they have different approaches to work.
 
I guess I'm struggling on what he is hindering that could be fixed as again, this is a private sector problem on a global scale.

If we just need a government face then, I'll give you that.

The adoption of his twins weren't convenient.

Curious what he does now, I'm guessing you'll be seeing his mug all over now since the right brought him out.
Again what he can or can't do isnt the point imo. If there were a crisis I would be in the office 18 hours a day. I might be on this website 16 hours of it but I would be in the office. Showing everyone I'm here and I'm ready and I'm trying to come up with something.
 
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I was responding to the perception of the millions in CoH's post, but i do agree Pete has a critical political issue here for his future.

As far as public perception, CoH is right there is a large percentage that will support Pete's choice if he can convince people he wasn't spending weeks snuggling all day on the couch. If we want younger politicians, we need to get used to the fact they have different approaches to work.

Yeah you might be right
 
If Buttigieg wants to act as a general employee, he should resign the cabinet and apply. We have never seen a transportation crisis like we have now. Buttigieg needs to be on station.
And what would you suggest he be doing? What steps can DOT take to alleviate this situation?
 
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Right, there are two problems. One, we are importing so much that the ports physically cannot handle it. The other problem is the driver shortage. We can't solve that quickly. It takes a while to hire and train.

I am sure that there is blame on the administration. But some of this problem goes way beyond this administration. The driver shortage has been talked about for years. American appetite for imported goods has been talked about for years.
What is the effect of the Green New Deal on which trucks can actually pick up freight at the ports?
 
I was following until the data was coming from something like "Panjiva". Can't trust any bastages that have that naming convention/ origination. Ya think imperial measurement system is stupid compared to metric, Try following Indian numerical logic... nope nope nope.
Are you trying to come off as a racist? Like, I get people who are racist and try to hide it and get mad when people call them racist, but a post like this just screams "I'm a racist, and I want you to know." You can't possibly be doing that on purpose, can you?
 
And what would you suggest he be doing? What steps can DOT take to alleviate this situation?
Just off the top of my head

I would ask The Boss to suspend all vaccine mandates in transportation and warehousing industries

I’d ask Governor Newsom to suspend all gig rules for transportation industry

I’d explore ways to bring freight handlers in from other locations like they do with fires and hurricane emergencies.

I’d negotiate with Mexico about using Manzanillo port facilities and securing transportation north.

I’d consult with the military logistics experts and also see about using military drivers


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Are you trying to come off as a racist? Like, I get people who are racist and try to hide it and get mad when people call them racist, but a post like this just screams "I'm a racist, and I want you to know." You can't possibly be doing that on purpose, can you?
hmmm Good question Goat. If I have experienced a very particular set of results, and have identified a very specific set of disingenuous results and mannerisms from a specific set of people from a specific area of the world, over the last 9 years continuously, with the same repeating results, does that make me racist or does that make me someone who studies the inputs of an experiment vrs the outputs and then form a conclusion?
I didn't say, .... That name sounds olive skinned so must be some olive skinned SOB studied it, he must be a liar because he has olive skin.. That would be racist.
If you asked me if I am culture biased. You GD bet I am. Once bitten, 19 times shy!!! That culture operates in the 1600's (per our standards). It's like a freaking time warp. But WHEN they catch up, we are eff'ed.
 
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hmmm Good question Goat. If I have experienced a very particular set of results, and have identified a very specific set of disingenuous results and mannerisms from a specific set of people from a specific area of the world, over the last 9 years continuously, with the same repeating results, does that make me racist or does that make me someone who studies the inputs of an experiment vrs the outputs and then form a conclusion?
I didn't say, .... That name sounds olive skinned so must be some olive skinned SOB studied it, he must be a liar because he has olive skin.. That would be racist.
If you asked me if I am culture biased. You GD bet I am. Once bitten, 19 times shy!!! That culture operates in the 1600's (per our standards). It's like a freaking time warp. But WHEN they catch up, we are eff'ed.
So...yes, then. Okay.
 
Thanks for this, as a lifelong retail executive it touches on why buying overseas is so damn cheap but it's volitile.

IE my first disaster was icycle lights around 1997. It's all imported so if it takes off, well lead times are three months.

If it sucks (which it did about four years later) then you are sitting on a shitton of bad inventory that you're clearancing for pennies on the dollar.

Supply chain side is all about efficiencies and lead time (and casepacks). Meaning it's much easier to maximize your efficiency when you can replenish in a day or two.

But importing is so damn cheap.

Anyway that's what I'm seeing here, an efficient supply chain that's struggling to handle disruptions to historical patterns.

Like turning a tanker in an alley.

Anyway, again thanks for the link.
 
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CDL and Motor Carrier ‘Facts’

It takes 7 weeks to three months to get a CDL and all the other training needed to drive a commercial vehicle. https://schneiderjobs.com/blog/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-cdl
Training includes how to inspect a Commercial Vehicle for safe operation, every time you get behind the wheel. (Special attention is paid to check for excessive brake wear). You have take extra training with additional exams for Air Brake (class B), combination vehicles (for trailers or semi trailers), doubles, and Hazmat.

Before you can even start, you have to pass a physical with mandatory drug screening. Recreational marijuana use, even where allowed by a state, is a disqualifing circumstance. Other disqualifications include health conditions such as severe hearing loss, and color blindness. Driving for 10 hours in a 14 hour on-duty daily limit can take some significant stamina.

[PS I trust it should be clear that imploring private industry to fix transportation bottle necks to fill the shelves by Xmas Is little chance for success. This seems antithetical to Deming’s PT. 10 from out of the crisis.
“10. Eliminate slogans, exhortations, and targets for the work force asking for zero defects and new levels of productivity. Such exhortations only create adversarial relationships, as the bulk of the causes of low quality and low productivity belong to the system and thus lie beyond the power of the work force.”]

You need to know about 300 pages of the 634 page tome of FMCSA regulations popularly known as the “Keller Green Book” https://www.jjkeller.com/…/green-book For a short sample, see Title 49 CFR part 392

If you decide to buy your own HD truck and start a business, you’ll need to know nearly all the 624 pages, because you’ll be responsible for all the business practices too. Make too many mistakes and you lose your FMCSA business license (called operating authority).

There are a number of drivers with a million miles and no accident. If you suffer the misfortune of having an accident, it’s not uncommon to become uninsurable, and unemployed. FMCSA requires carriers to file proof of insurance to be on file with the DOT.

Yes there are unscrupulous business practices where the net value of the vehicle sold to an owner operator has scant equity for the (capital) lessee by the time they finish making the payments, and paying all the fuel and maintenance bills. I believe these are more the exception, rather than the rule.
 
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CDL - This conversation reminded me of my driving experience. On the day I was eligible to get my Driver's license @ 16 yrs old, My mom took me to the BMV to get it. We left there, she took me to the Corn Field where I started hauling 350 buschels of corn per load from Bloomington to Martinsville, right up 37. People underestimate youths abilities, except of course to send them into combat, that different somehow.
 
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I think you exploded his brain.

Ok, I guess. This doesn’t contain enough data, but raises some interesting points. But it is from a conservative website making it easy for you to dismiss in pursuit of your “gotcha” moment.🙄
 
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Pete is demonstrating more us/them. No Difft than flaunting mask rules. Go to any local employer and take 3 months off after 8 months on the job. Within 2 months of flma running they'll find a reason to fire ya
Unless you are a CEO, then they MIGHT give you a golden parachute.
 
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I don't know what makes for good government leaders. I don't know the recipe. I also don't know the veracity of what's being reported. That said I do believe optics matter as a leader. In a time of crisis where people are being asked to work more at FedEx etc for the leader of the sect of transportation to take 3 months off is bad optics if true. Don't ask others to sacrifice where you're not willing. Hell trending is Bareshelvesbiden and the sect of trans is home? I'd be livid if I were biden. anyway, i think we just have a different outlook on work/home balance. i trust yours is healthier

Wouldn't that be true of any leader who surrounds themselves with competency?

I have no idea if Pete has been working while on leave or what. On the surface, it doesn't look great. On the other hand, I seriously doubt conservatives really think it is the DoT's job to hire private truck drivers.
That is true but I'll bet you won't see a captian of a ship leave the ship while it's slowly sinking.
 
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I really think it is a generational thing and how you're raised kind of thing. I can't imagine taking 12 weeks FMLA and expecting my employer to pay it. I can't imagine really ever taking more than a week off. And I do get that is why things historically have been so much harder for women.

I don't know to each their own. I know personally I liked Pete and thought he was smart but now I wouldn't vote for him for any position, ever. Apparently he was "off line" for a month. To me that's completely unfathomable at any job, much less his. Very entitled.
 
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I really think it is a generational thing and how you're raised kind of thing. I can't imagine taking 12 weeks FMLA and expecting my employer to pay it. I can't imagine really ever taking more than a week off. And I do get that is why things historically have been so much harder for women.

I don't know to each their own. I know personally I liked Pete and thought he was smart but now I wouldn't vote for him for any position, ever. Apparently he was "off line" for a month. To me that's completely unfathomable at any job, much less his.
I was more responding to the idea of "leaving the ship while it's sinking" in NPT's post to which you'd responded. I've seen it at both large and mid sized companies. Not so much at smaller companies (mostly family owned so, where are they gonna go anyway. Those folks are kinda forced to deal with whatever problem arises).

As to Buttigieg. I liked the guy but if he's really even 50% working at this point it shows a bit of a curious lack of awareness. Like you'd said. You gotta be in the office. You gotta be the face. Even if you ain't doing shit. I honestly hope this doesn't hurt his chances down the road but I think it'll get trotted out if he runs for anything. I hope he's got an answer. Would be a lot easier if these transportation issues resolve themselves sooner rather than later.
 
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