We shot 50% on 2 point shots last year.
We ranked in the 300s in 3 point shots made and 200s 3 point shot percentage. You can try and paint it anyway you want, but we won't take the next step unless we find reliable shooters next year.
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We shot 50% on 2 point shots last year.
We ranked in the 300s in 3 point shots made and 200s 3 point shot percentage. You can try and paint it anyway you want, but we won't take the next step unless we find reliable shooters next year.
Yes…heard it multiple times from this board.
I just hope IU can find a way to beat Wisconsin or Northwestern for that matter.
We should expect overall improvement from everyone.
Plus, there's 10,000 ways to skin a cat, Don't shoot 3's well? Get to the line, get offensive rebounds, create TO's, take care of the ball. But, shooting supplies spacing that we need. Don't have to be great, just good enough to keep the lane open.
X was decent enough. Race should be better. Kopp hopefully gets his head right. Tamar could be that guy and the most likely. Jordan shot fairly well when his feet were set.
I doubt very much IU becomes a great shooting team but hopefully they become good enough to keep the defense honest.
More than shooting, IU needs a perimeter playmaker to close games and possessions. Having to go inside in late clock late game situations is too easy for opposing defenses to stop. Need a dynamic triple threat playmaker that can get his without help. Tamar? JHS?
I disagee. If IU plays the outside on D really tough, they could limit teams. But they gotta pick up the opposing guards and sf's. If they do that an elite eight or final four isn't out of the question.
Yes, I know you havnt!
I do think Gunn challenges him over the summer. I really like our players (program) right now
No we weren’t. 98th from 2 at 45%. I’m not cherry picking stats either. Only two teams in the sweet 16 that were good from 3. Villanova and UNC. I’m talking as a team needs to be 46-48% shooting. That includes all shots. Kansas was similar if you take out the extra games. I mean look it up. It’s easy really. They were just more efficient at the 2 point shots and free throws.
2pt% Kansas..47% IU 45%
3 pt% Kansas 36% IU 33%
3 pt per game Kansas 7.2 IU 5.9.
Points per game KU 78 IU 70
If you take out the NCAA tournament it gets even closer. Rankings got skewed a bit after the regular season but you should understand that.
Efficiency is key and IU just wasn’t efficient enough.
these are straight off the ncaa website. Go look them up.
Kansas was great defensively to. Can’t underestimate that either. They had a bit of luck also.
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Don’t sleep on Duncomb. The kid is skilled. Here’s to hoping he lives in the weight room this summer
No excuses now for Woodson. The roster is there. Time to see if he can coach.
I wonder what the two-point percentage would be if it did not include dunks.
I don't need to say it but I think he knows he's on deck. Next year we lose 2 post players and he is likely starting for IU. Having had 2 years of practice against TJD and Race, he should be in a great position to slide in and do his thing.
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So you don’t think this is still a flawed team even with TJD back?
fwiw - there was a difference. Braun and Wilson were both effective, especially when compared with Kopp and Stewart and not just from 3. They were both effective enough to allow space for KU's guards to drive and bigs to post while RT, MK and PK were not.
But, to get to that point with our roster isn't unfathomable and would only take a small amount of improvement.
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I get all that. I’m just showing how different the team could be just by hitting the easy ones(bunnies/free throws). I will not argue that 3 point shooting isn’t important. I just want people to understand perception isn’t reality. I fully expect them to be better at both. How different would last years team be just by hitting free throws. 8 point difference was from free throws and bunnies.
Race might very well make a big jump next season as he becomes a much more consistent shooter. And he plays with the kind of toughness you need inside. We know he can defend and board. JG will need to make a big jump to beat him out. Not impossible, but not likely.
Horrible.
I posted a couple of players who had taken over 100 2s that were not at the basket. One was 28% and the other was 34%
That’s the story. TJD and race carried the percentage. Need to be 34-35% from 3 and 47-48% from all shots combined. That’s at minimum with defense in the top 15. It’s attainable for sure. Those aren’t exact figures just in that range.
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Bottom of the page, play around with the columns. 89% on dunks, 63% on close 2s and 36% on the rest of the 2s.
Look at some of the invidual #s.
According to this site, we were 50% from 2 point
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We were 45% overall taking 2 and 3 combined.
You aren't looking up your stats correctly.
Yep. Isiah was dominant at 6'1".
The word "guard" has changed definition over the years, but Isiah could play multiple different styles. I remember games in which the opposing guards couldn't get the ball even near the half court line because Isiah was pressing the ball handler, In other games, he decided to shoot long range jumpers without missing. He always hit his foul shots effectively.
In the championship game against
UNC, there was a famous scene where Knight called Isiah over to the sideline and visibly plotted with him to do something. When UNC put the ball in play, Isiah basically lay down in front of UNC's center (Worthy or Perkins) and sacrificed his body to draw the fourth foul on him.
I could go on and on about Isiah. Do any of you guys have another nominee to get 6 stars instead of 5 for his actual performance at IU?
You are right but we are splitting hairs. I noticed it but posted it that way.According to this site, we were 50% from 2 point
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We were 45% overall taking 2 and 3 combined.
You aren't looking up your stats correctly.
That would be amazing. I’m guessing S16. But if we have one of JG or TB break out, and one the TRueFresh make a splash, I could see E8 or better.
I actually think we could have enough talent to overcome mediocre games from them. Keep in mind TJD performance against Purdoo in our W.
Isiah was the only candidate in my time for a 6th star, but many who saw him would say George McGinnis was another. McGinnis was probably a guy who was NBA ready out of high school and I think Isiah needed at least one year of college because of his size.
F#%k that weak sauce Cav. It’s banner number 6 time! Let’s gogogo!!!
Agree. Chemistry will be key. But based on the comments I have read, it seems team chemistry is really good. These players actually enjoy each others company
TJD’s performance in that first Purdue game and the first Illinois game was mental. In the second games, especially Illinois, he was dominate, instead of dominated. I’m expecting him to pick up where he left off and be a 1st team AA.
It’s Woodson’s team at this point. I would have gotten rid of a few players and brought in a few shooters, but he chose not to. This is the team he wants. Results are completely on him. No excuses.
He probably weighed his options and thought the odds of actually getting a couple reliable shooters are slim, so he went with what he had. Suffice it to say, this could’ve gone so much worse than what it has.
No excuses. We will be the preseason favorite to win the Big Ten. It’s on Woodson now.
Agree. Just pointing out that even last year we had enough talent to compete without good games from key players. Should be even better this coming year. Excited to watch them play
GTFOH. You are a sorry SOAB. So tired of your constant nagging bullshit
Stfu. Don’t like my posts? Ignore me or leave. I’m not going anywhere. Woodson either succeeds this season or he doesn’t. He has the team to win the Big Ten and go far in the tournament. Whether he does or not comes down to his coaching ability.
