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Here's a G from AL leaving as a Grad Transfer

It’s pretty amazing that 46.8% of all 4-5 star QBs end up transferring from their original school. I see where Indiana State picked up the third string QB from Iowa this upcoming season.
It is... On paper there is some decent talent moving around out there...
 
It’s pretty amazing that 46.8% of all 4-5 star QBs end up transferring from their original school. I see where Indiana State picked up the third string QB from Iowa this upcoming season.

not that amazing imo.

especially when you consider schools don't rotate that position and only one guy can play QB at a time.. that there really are no other acceptable positions for a 4-5 star QB as there are for O linemen and D players.. schools don't play multiple players at that position every game like they do with running backs and even receivers.. and lastly because the 4-5 star QBs aren't spreading themselves out initially among all the major conference schools, but rather a large number of the high rated QB are all initially converging on a disproportionally few name schools every yr.

thus after things shake out and they get a chance see their likelihood to be "the guy" at the big name school they originally committed to, the "spreading themselves out" tends to happen after the fact, ie after their initial commitments.

they want to play and their time window is short. thus if their chances of playing at the school they are now with are not great, they look for a good spot where they will be better.
 
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not that amazing imo.

especially when you consider schools don't rotate that position and only one guy can play QB at a time, that there really are no other acceptable positions for a 4-5 star QB as there are for O linemen and D players, schools don't play multiple players at that position every game like they do with running backs and even receivers, and lastly because the 4-5 star QBs aren't spreading themselves out initially among all the major conference schools, but rather a large number of the high rated QB are all initially converging on a disproportionally few name schools every yr.

thus after things shake out and they get a chance see their likelihood to be "the guy" at the big name school they originally committed to, the "spreading themselves out" tends to happen after the fact, ie after their initial commitments.

they want to play and their time window is short. thus if their chances of playing at the school they are now with are not great, they look for a good spot where they will be better.

I should have qualified that statement:
It’s amazing for IU fans to fathom. With all the turmoil surrounding a guy transferring from our own team, while not a 4-star, it got several worked up.
Of course, we aren’t used to seeing kids leave at a position that has been very limited the past few seasons. It’s so common at other schools because they have 3-4 really good recruits in that QB room.
 
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I should have qualified that statement:
It’s amazing for IU fans to fathom. With all the turmoil surrounding a guy transferring from our own team, while not a 4-star, it got several worked up.
Of course, we aren’t used to seeing kids leave at a position that has been very limited the past few seasons. It’s so common at other schools because they have 3-4 really good recruits in that QB room.
It's far from a recent rarity at IU . . . Ed Wright-Baker, Dusty Kiel, Cam Coffman, Tre Roberson, Danny Cameron, Austin King have all left the program in the last few years, and all but DC were considered as potential starters / program leaders.
 
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It's far from a recent rarity at IU . . . Ed Wright-Baker, Dusty Kiel, Cam Coffman, Tre Roberson, Danny Cameron, Austin King have all left the program in the last few years, and all but DC were considered as potential starters / program leaders.
The poster specifically referenced QBs from the past few seasons. Not sure how you define "recent" or "last few years," but all except Danny Cameron and King left in 2014 or earlier. And Cameron shouldn't even be part of the discussion, not only because he was never considered a program leader but because the circumstances surrounding his departure were unique. He didn't "leave" as in "go voluntarily." He was dismissed from the program.

The QB revolving door during the early years of the last coaching regime is an unfortunate legacy of the KW era. Wilson did some good things at IU, but acquiring, developing and maintaining a strong QB group was not one of them. He was able to play the Sam Bradford card early on, scoring a stunning commitment from Gunner Kiel. That fell through, though, as did the later recruitment of another highly regarded in-state QB prospect, Tommy Stevens.

After just one season, we've seen Allen and staff bring in a 4* QB. With the addition of Dawkins and the return of Ramsey, the QB room hasn't looked this good in several years.
 
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The poster specifically referenced QBs from the past few seasons. Not sure how you define "recent" or "last few years," but all except Danny Cameron and King left in 2014 or earlier. And Cameron shouldn't even be part of the discussion, not only because he was never considered a program leader but because the circumstances surrounding his departure were unique. He didn't "leave" as in "go voluntarily." He was dismissed from the program.

The QB revolving door during the early years of the last coaching regime is an unfortunate legacy of the KW era. Wilson did some good things at IU, but acquiring, developing and maintaining a strong QB group was not one of them. He was able to play the Sam Bradford card early on, scoring a stunning commitment from Gunner Kiel. That fell through, though, as did the later recruitment of another highly regarded in-state QB prospect, Tommy Stevens.

After just one season, we've seen Allen and staff bring in a 4* QB. With the addition of Dawkins and the return of Ramsey, the QB room hasn't looked this good in several years.
Would agree that the coaches' decision to pursue and then sign Dawkins elevated the quarterback position significantly, as did Penix' commitment to the program. They (the coaches) realized that they were light on talent and that the previous additions to the team had limited upside in terms of taking the program to something above .500 overall, so bringing in Dawkins and Penix were large steps forward.
 
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