H.R. 9218

[IUfanBorden]

You're being inconsistent. If you don't want post-op transexuals competing in women's sports, then defining sex by whether or not you have a penis isn't good enough.

You people are scary....I mean that.

I am defining sex by something rather, "elementary"---If you were BORN with a DICK, you're a dude. If you were BORN with a vagina--you're a woman. Removing one or the other, doesn't change that.

Clear enough for you?

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

You people are scary....I mean that.

I am defining sex by something rather, "elementary"---If you were BORN with a DICK, you're a dude. If you were BORN with a vagina--you're a woman. Removing one or the other, doesn't change that.

Clear enough for you?

That's better. Now what do you do with people who were born with both?

 

[Spartans9312]

It's not bad terminology. If someone has both female and male sex organs, how can they be "male or female" as you put it?

It depends at what point in development the abnormality occurred. If we really wanted to research it…I’m guessing we could determine male or female prior to abnormal development.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

That's better. Now what do you do with people who were born with both?

Or the Olympic boxer so many were freaked out about?

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

It depends at what point in development the abnormality occurred. If we really wanted to research it…I’m guessing we could determine male or female prior to abnormal development.

If someone has both, the abnormality was always there.

 

[IUfanBorden]

That's better. Now what do you do with people who were born with both?

What do you mean, "that is better"? Why patronize? Be so obtuse? When I said, "has a dick" , you knew exactly what I meant. i.e. BORN with. What the **** else what I mean?

Please tell me you are NOT trying to tie transgender with intersex, AKA as hermaphrodite...

 

[Spartans9312]

If someone has both, the abnormality was always there.

Ok….anyhow when finalizing this bill take into consideration this very small abnormality (0.018%).

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Ok….anyhow when finalizing this bill take into consideration this very small abnormality (0.018%).

She wants to enshrine it into the Constitution. Probably should work out the details.

 

[Spartans9312]

She wants to enshrine it into the Constitution. Probably should work out the details.

Yep…acknowledge. But don’t get into the distinguishing “sex” from “gender”

 

[ribbont]

Not the title or a brief summary. What is the text of the bill? I can't find it listed on either GovTrack or the LOC.

You have to pass it to know what's in it. It's called the Pelosi standard.

 

[ribbont]

She wants to enshrine it into the Constitution. Probably should work out the details.

Here are the details.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Yep…acknowledge. But don’t get into the distinguishing “sex” from “gender”

My gut tells me don't put this in the Constitution at all, to be honest. If it's mostly about sports, let the bodies that regulate the sports figure it out.

 

[Spartans9312]

My gut tells me don't put this in the Constitution at all, to be honest. If it's mostly about sports, let the bodies that regulate the sports figure it out.

The U.S. Department of Education Releases Proposed Changes to Title IX Regulations, Invites Public Comment | U.S. Department of Education

www.ed.gov

I believe the reason it’s needed is because of the above.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

We all know we’re not talking about people born with ambiguous genitalia. We’re talking about dudes who put on mini skirts and want to win medals against women. This argument over terminology is ridiculous

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

The U.S. Department of Education Releases Proposed Changes to Title IX Regulations, Invites Public Comment | U.S. Department of Education

www.ed.gov

I believe the reason it’s needed is because of the above.

Don't need a constitutional amendment to address that, though. Just amend title ix.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

We all know we’re not talking about people born with ambiguous genitalia. We’re talking about dudes who put on mini skirts and want to win medals against women. This argument over terminology is ridiculous

Of course that's what we are taking about, but if we want to enshrine it in law, the terminology is supremely important.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

Of course that's what we are taking about, but if we want to enshrine it in law, the terminology is supremely important.

There doesn’t need to be a law. Just some damned common sense

 

[larsIU]

Proofread….I thought I forgot a word

Ha. I was trying to make light of you being a drug dealer but legally.

50% of my jokes land, 50% don't and the other 50% offend.

 

[larsIU]

You people are scary....I mean that.

I am defining sex by something rather, "elementary"---If you were BORN with a DICK, you're a dude. If you were BORN with a vagina--you're a woman. Removing one or the other, doesn't change that.

Clear enough for you?

We have developed (rightly or wrongly) the science and technology to change a person's sex organs from one to the other. What do we do in those situations. How do we handle sex legally w/r/t those changes?

 

[larsIU]

There doesn’t need to be a law. Just some damned common sense

Tell that to a court.

 

[hoot1]

Rep. Mary Miller Introduces Defining Male And Female Act

WASHINGTON - This week, Congresswoman Mary Miller (R-IL) introduced the Defining Male and Female Act, which will constitutionally codify the definition of gender as male and female. Representative Miller released the following statement:

marymiller.house.gov

I look forward to all Republicans and Democrats supporting this legislation.

If we are to believe what has been posted here then this should pass quickly and without opposition

Title 9 protects women from being discriminated against.

If a university decides to prohibit a Trans from competing against women, on say a swim team, the university has Title 9 on its side in my view.

The Trans could then take the university to court for not permitting the Trans to be on the women's swim team.

Assuming HR 9218 becomes the law of the land, could the court cite this law in supporting the university's decision?

In writing this I am assuming HR 9218 somehow settles the issue of determining who is a female.

Help me here, fellow Coolerites.

 

[Standard Issue]

I mean, pretty much..

Penis= Man
Vagina= Woman

Seems rather simple.

You're describing window dressing.
You are what your DNA says you are.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

You're describing window dressing.
You are what your DNA says you are.

So once again…. Basic middle school biology

 

[UncleMark]

Of course that's what we are taking about, but if we want to enshrine it in law, the terminology is supremely important.

Naw, just let Alito decide.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

There doesn’t need to be a law. Just some damned common sense

Tell Rep. Miller that.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

Tell Rep. Miller that.

Rep Miller would have something else to be wacko about if there was common sense before

 

[Spartans9312]

Tell Rep. Miller that.

Action: The administration’s attempt to rewrite and distort Title IX (I’ve provided the link previously) to include “gender identity”

Reaction: H.R. 9218