I am an attorney and do criminal defense work: I don't need you to tell me where the bear took a dump in the bushes. Why don't you reread the ESPN article? You sound a lot like the Joe Paterno apologists.
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There is no way you are a criminal defense attorney. Just no way.
What makes you qualified to make that argument? If you are using evidence from a free internet message board to make that argument, you would be ignorant.
Run along and tell a doctor how they should practice medicine or something.
lol. You don't think defending criminals ever involves hiding facts, keeping out evidence, or arguing procedure? 95% of the time, the facts aren't in your favor. I understand the interaction between law and fact: thanks, professor.
OJ won because African Americans in LA hate the LAPD and Johnny Cochran was a master at suing the LAPD. Facts, lol
Here's some facts: "Appling, she told police, removed her underwear, and then the two men pulled her to the ground and started penetrating her vaginally, anally and orally. She told police that she said to the men, "I don't want it," "stop" and "don't."
"Schaner was interviewed by an assistant prosecutor, Debra Rousseau Martinez. Schaner says Martinez told her she did not seem strong enough to stand up to questioning that would come as a result of making allegations against MSU basketball players."
You ever tried a rape case, either as a prosecutor or a defense attorney? You don't have a case without a witness: cases are dismissed or never charged because of this all the time.
If you aren't an attorney, time to shut your mouth.
So no rape case could be made against the MSU players? I think you just painted yourself into a corner.
Not without the key witness. Doesn't mean the players are innocent. Check out hearsay: that's a fun one.
For every Kyle Stephens and Rachael Denhollander, there are 20 victims that don't want to go through a prosecution and testify.
"Schaner says campus police investigators told her that, because of Payne's police interview, they had a solid case to pursue."
Which brings us back to the point of this post. Even though there is insufficient evidence of a sexual assault in the MSU basketball program, you would still like to make a public display at Assembly Hall against the MSU program in an attempt to shame them?
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So, attorneys always know when somebody is telling the truth? I have people lie to my face all the time.
Police investigate, prosecutors adjudicate: they are two peas in a pod. Sure, prosecutors have discretion. But, I don't think you give police officers enough credit: they normally know how to build a case. Police officers are normally major witnesses for the prosecution, and their testimony carries great weight.
That prosecutor now works for MSU in the title IS office. Hmm
After reading the article I formulated an opinion that there definitely appears to be a pattern of MSU 'fixing' incidents. But I will also say that my opinion of the football program was far worse. I'm not trying to be a judge here, but that was my opinion. So yea, I think Dantonio and Izzo both need to stand up and respond to the allegations in order to put this to rest...or the beat goes on at MSU.
http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id...on-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn
http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id...on-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn
I will also add that Indiana University served themselves well by avoiding public display of poor behavior by fans at the expense of the tragic events at MSU.
Believe whatever you want, support whoever you want. Whatever allows you to sleep at night. Multiple crimes have been committed and cover-ups have been in play dating back to the Mateen years. They just need to do the right thing to truly start the healing process.
There has never been any doubt that IU doesn’t have class. I am an IU grad; two degrees ; and living in MSU territory. The coaches at MSU, except for gymnastics, are all about class. IU gesture of support matches that class. Thanks for making me a proud IU alumnus.
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