Somebody sell me on this guy. He's a been a major dissapointment as an AD as far as on the field/court goes.
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This is a serious question......
What has the guy done that makes you say that?
I mean, what exactly has he done in terms of winning, outside of Soccer?
agree, but he didnt want to get rid of crean, so you can't use that as an accomplishment. His hand was forced.People down on Glass are delusional. The man is intelligent, accomplished and is an alumn. He's has more ability as AD in his finger than half this board combined, including me. I don't have to agree with every decision he makes to respect his position and accomplishments. He loves the state and the university and cares deeply about IU athletics.
It could be way worse, as I remember many of you clammoring for and comparing us to UofL and Jurich. After all, he did get rid of Crean, so for that I'm grateful
What are your expectations for him?Somebody sell me on this guy. He's a been a major dissapointment as an AD as far as on the field/court goes.
Fixed it for youI'd challenge anyone to find a worse AD in the Big Ten. Fred has been a complete disaster if you look at the only two sports that I personally care about. No way to sugar coat it.
I think he has done a good job and he has put a lot of money into the sports programs. He is over more than just basketball and football and a lot of IU sports are doing very well. Right now IU soccer is in the final four. I think the MIller hire has the basketball program going in the right direction.Somebody sell me on this guy. He's a been a major dissapointment as an AD as far as on the field/court goes.
You probably couldn't name more than a couple of AD's in the big tenThe AD's primary job, especially these days, is to hire elite coaches. The money is pouring in from huge TV contacts regardless of who is AD.
I'd challenge anyone to find a worse AD in the Big Ten. Fred has been a complete disaster. No way to sugar coat it.
I see Crean's lingering at IU a little differently. Since Bob Knight was forced out IU has had extremely high turnover in the basketball coach position. After Sampson was forced out, IU opened the search but who wanted this wounded and tainted job? Why take the IU head coach job when one would likely only last a few years before getting forced out after even making the final game like Davis did?agree, but he didnt want to get rid of crean, so you can't use that as an accomplishment. His hand was forced.
Why take the IU head coach job when one would likely only last a few years before getting forced out after even making the final game like Davis did?
This is a joke, right? I mean, no one could mis-remember recent history that badly without it being in jest. Mike Davis was an unmitigated disaster and it really isn't up for debate. He effectively killed in-state recruiting, wasn't in any danger of competing for National Titles and had Indiana trending in the wrong direction....just like Tom Crean. He wasn't forced out after just a few short years from an appearance in the title game. He was given ample opportunity to prove himself as a competent coach and leader and failed miserably.
For all his bloviating, Fred Glass has been pretty pedestrian regarding the revenue generating sports, i.e. football and basketball. The Miller hire looks to be his best move so far. But his Crean extension and handling of the Wilson/Allen situation leave a lot to be desired.
He's an average AD at best.
Do you remember how bad the previous 2 ADs were?
Glass has done a amazing job IMO.
OK, you are right about Mike Davis not working out at IU. I did not misremember. I did understate how many years after going to the Final Game in the NCAAT that Davis was out. I said few he went from that game in the '02 season and announced his leaving 2/06. The issue, which the above post and others are missing is why did Glass hang on to Crean? I say it was to stabilize the turnover. Others say it was misguided. You can point out why Davis was 'forced' out but that is not the reason that I posited that Glass kept Crean.This is a joke, right? I mean, no one could mis-remember recent history that badly without it being in jest. Mike Davis was an unmitigated disaster and it really isn't up for debate. He effectively killed in-state recruiting, wasn't in any danger of competing for National Titles and had Indiana trending in the wrong direction....just like Tom Crean. He wasn't forced out after just a few short years from an appearance in the title game. He was given ample opportunity to prove himself as a competent coach and leader and failed miserably.
For all his bloviating, Fred Glass has been pretty pedestrian regarding the revenue generating sports, i.e. football and basketball. The Miller hire looks to be his best move so far. But his Crean extension and handling of the Wilson/Allen situation leave a lot to be desired.
He's an average AD at best.
Somebody sell me on this guy. He's a been a major dissapointment as an AD as far as on the field/court goes.
Don't set the bar to high:
*IU Football under Glass (starting from Wilson's first year since he was responsible for hiring him) is 31-53.
*IU Basketball is about to miss the tourney for 6th time (including 3 out of the last 5 years which he is 100 percent responsible for) since he has been the AD.
I am dumbfounded anyone can say he has done an amazing job.
Glass made two crappy hires in football and oversees the lowest paid coaching staff in the Big Ten. He is running the most lucrative program for an athletics department on a shoestring budget. He hired a crappy Purdue grad women’s basketball coach who squandered the momentum Curt Miller had built. He kept Crean three years too long and refused to go out and get a game changing coach, settling for a mid major guy. Alabama and Texas A&M didn’t settle for mid major coaches in football. They went out, got the money, and reached for the stars.
Simply put, Fred Glass settles for mediocrity and has no pressure to strive for success given that McRobbie is indifferent to sports.
Look at the state of basketball and football. The football team went 5-7 and the basketball team is going to miss the NCAA tournament for the second straight season. This is year eight of the Fred Glass tenure and we are rebuilding in both sports. Unacceptable.
Don't set the bar too high:
*IU Football under Glass (starting from Wilson's first year since he was responsible for hiring him) is 31-53.
*IU Basketball is about to miss the tourney for 6th time (including 3 out of the last 5 years which he is 100 percent responsible for) since he has been the AD.
I am dumbfounded anyone can say he has done an amazing job.
I also forgot to mention the lack of success in women’s softball and volleyball. We are awful in both of those sports.
ehhh -- not calling Glass the GOAT or anything but he has been AD during 18% of our all-time bowl game appearances (granted, there are a gazillion now) and made what will likely prove to be the best BB HC hire in 50 years.
i think he's somewhere between awful and dandy with room to improve. lol
you can hate the logic (I did) but Fred considered crean's 4th year to actually be his first and clearly judged him from that point on. meh
The football team, while still not great, is the best it's been since Mallory was coach.
Men's soccer team was #1 for most of the season, is a #2 seed, and in the College Cup (final four for soccer).
Men's swim team is the best it's been since Doc, ranked #1, and had a very good placing in the NCAA last year. They're also on a 16 or 17 dual meet winning streak.
The women's swim team is also ranked and doing quite well.
For a few years the baseball was having unusual success. They're still decent.
Rugby team was top 10.
There's a few other sports that IU is doing quite well at under his direction. He stayed with Crean for too long but there are more sports than basketball and he's done a good job with those.
Glass made two crappy hires in football and oversees the lowest paid coaching staff in the Big Ten. He is running the most lucrative program for an athletics department on a shoestring budget. He hired a crappy Purdue grad women’s basketball coach who squandered the momentum Curt Miller had built. He kept Crean three years too long and refused to go out and get a game changing coach, settling for a mid major guy. Alabama and Texas A&M didn’t settle for mid major coaches in football. They went out, got the money, and reached for the stars.
Simply put, Fred Glass settles for mediocrity and has no pressure to strive for success given that McRobbie is indifferent to sports.
Look at the state of basketball and football. The football team went 5-7 and the basketball team is going to miss the NCAA tournament for the second straight season. This is year eight of the Fred Glass tenure and we are rebuilding in both sports. Unacceptable.
The fact that IU gave Crean three years without judgment is a joke. It was clear by year three he was in over his head and Zeller being pressured into attending IU saved his butt. The absolute latest Crean should have lasted at IU was March 2014. He was in his sixth season with two McDonald’s All-Americans on his roster and finished 17-15. Any blueblood would have said sayonara at that point.
Are you really comparing IU football to Alabama and A&M? What a ****ing joke! IU has had two women's bball teams go to the tourney this century. One of those was pretty lucky to win the B10 tourney. Unrealistic expectations breed disappointment. Do you expect children to be running marathons the week they are born? Curt Miller was the one who squandered their momentum (and I will buy into the questioning of hiring another Purdue alum in that position, but you have to hire the best that is interested not necessarily the ideal candidate.). Do you think IU could throw enough money out there to land an established coach in FB or women's bball? Your expectations are a total joke...
Regarding football, how about doing a national search and not having the lowest paid coaching staff in the Big Ten?
How about having state of the art lockerrooms and a players’ lounge for basketball?
If we are a serious about basketball we must have the best facilities in the nation.
Somebody sell me on this guy. He's a been a major dissapointment as an AD as far as on the field/court goes.
I also forgot to mention the lack of success in women’s softball and volleyball. We are awful in both of those sports.
So other sports that IU isn't good at are examples of why Glass is bad at his job but the sports that IU is doing really well in don't count?Football and men’s basketball are all that matter. It is the cold hard truth.
He just fired the volleyball coach (Dunbar-Kruzan), who had had some early success but was on a downhill slide.I also forgot to mention the lack of success in women’s softball and volleyball. We are awful in both of those sports.