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The people at this meeting weren't being lazy. They were making a definite political statement, both with their words and their actions...

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State Rep. Mike Jones, R-York Township, right, talks to an attendee of a meeting Jones held at Wisehaven Event Center Saturday, May 9. More than 150 mostly maskless people attended the meeting about reopening business, despite state rules forbidding large gatherings because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Another GOP led "protest" in a battleground state that has a Dem Governor. What a shock...

"In a rambling opening address, Jones bemoaned the fact that Scott Wagner lost the gubernatorial race to Wolf, called Wolf’s handling of the pandemic a “travesty,” criticized Mayor Helfrich for “drinking the governor’s Kool-Aid" with his cautious approach to the pandemic, and said the state Department of Health did not have the best and brightest medical minds working on the state’s response.

Jones, who attended a ReOpen Pa rally in Harrisburg April 20, said most Republican state lawmakers are working to reopen businesses via various pieces of legislation.

“Republicans are voting for business; the Democrats aren’t,” he said. “But we’ve seen some cracks in the armor. We do not have veto-proof votes. And we don’t even have 100 percent of the Republicans that have the guts to vote the right way on everything.”

“I think we got Wolf on the ropes,” he added. “The last 48 hours has been extremely encouraging. It’s just like a boxing match. It’s time to knock him out. Because when you call his bluff and you fight, they cave. They don’t have the horses. They don’t have the soldiers. They don’t have the guts. … The bark is way, way worse than the bite.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pennsylvania-rep-mike-jones-organized-190600669.html
Sooooo, where's the guy who posted on here that refusing to wear a mask was not a political statement?

Seems as obvious as can be.
 
Sooooo, where's the guy who posted on here that refusing to wear a mask was not a political statement?

Seems as obvious as can be.
Good Lord you must live a sheltered life. A political statement by definition is an act intended to influence a decision to be made for or by a political party. Your view of life cannot be so narrow. Are there people refusing to wear masks as a political statement. Sure.

Are the 100 people in Walmart refusing to wear a mask as an act to influence a decision by a political party. Of course not. They’re lazy. Don’t care. Don’t have access to masks. Hundreds of reasons none of which have anything to do with politics. Unbelievable.

Not everyone is on message boards thinking about political statements. There are a ton of folks not tracking this stuff at all. Just going about their lives. They go to stores. And they’re not thinking hmmmm I support trump so I’m leaving my mask at home. So absurd. We had ten murders here on Saturday. Ten. During a stay home order.
 
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The people at this meeting weren't being lazy. They were making a definite political statement, both with their words and their actions...

6ef3a3c5616336e4380552cb2b1471bc

State Rep. Mike Jones, R-York Township, right, talks to an attendee of a meeting Jones held at Wisehaven Event Center Saturday, May 9. More than 150 mostly maskless people attended the meeting about reopening business, despite state rules forbidding large gatherings because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Another GOP led "protest" in a battleground state that has a Dem Governor. What a shock...

"In a rambling opening address, Jones bemoaned the fact that Scott Wagner lost the gubernatorial race to Wolf, called Wolf’s handling of the pandemic a “travesty,” criticized Mayor Helfrich for “drinking the governor’s Kool-Aid" with his cautious approach to the pandemic, and said the state Department of Health did not have the best and brightest medical minds working on the state’s response.

Jones, who attended a ReOpen Pa rally in Harrisburg April 20, said most Republican state lawmakers are working to reopen businesses via various pieces of legislation.

“Republicans are voting for business; the Democrats aren’t,” he said. “But we’ve seen some cracks in the armor. We do not have veto-proof votes. And we don’t even have 100 percent of the Republicans that have the guts to vote the right way on everything.”

“I think we got Wolf on the ropes,” he added. “The last 48 hours has been extremely encouraging. It’s just like a boxing match. It’s time to knock him out. Because when you call his bluff and you fight, they cave. They don’t have the horses. They don’t have the soldiers. They don’t have the guts. … The bark is way, way worse than the bite.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pennsylvania-rep-mike-jones-organized-190600669.html

I don't care why they aren't wearing a mask AND ignoring social distancing protocols (political reasons, laziness, etc.), but this is a strong reason for why I will never support universal healthcare. If these idiots get COVID, they don't deserve taxpayers to fund their HC costs.
 
I don't care why they aren't wearing a mask AND ignoring social distancing protocols (political reasons, laziness, etc.), but this is a strong reason for why I will never support universal healthcare. If these idiots get COVID, they don't deserve taxpayers to fund their HC costs.

Does someone who stuffed their fat face with McDonald’s for years and years deserve tax payer funds to fund their HC costs? What about smokers?
 
Pence Self-Isolating After Aide Tests Positive for Coronavirus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-aide-is-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB13SmO6

(Bloomberg) -- Vice President Mike Pence is self-isolating away from the White House following his press secretary’s diagnosis of Covid-19 on Friday, said three people familiar with the situation.

The vice president didn’t attend a meeting on Saturday with President Donald Trump and top military officials.

Pence tested negative for coronavirus infection on Sunday, one of the people said. He and Trump have been tested regularly. He’s staying at his home at the U.S. Naval Observatory in Washington out of an abundance of caution, said the people, who asked not to be identified because his isolation hasn’t been publicly announced.​
Seeing reports today that Pence is not isolating and will be in the office.

I guess he got his orders to keep up the front.
 
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I don't care why they aren't wearing a mask AND ignoring social distancing protocols (political reasons, laziness, etc.), but this is a strong reason for why I will never support universal healthcare. If these idiots get COVID, they don't deserve taxpayers to fund their HC costs.
Does someone who stuffed their fat face with McDonald’s for years and years deserve tax payer funds to fund their HC costs? What about smokers?
If it has any bearing on JDB's taxes, no one is deserving enough for universal health care.
 
If it has any bearing on JDB's taxes, no one is deserving enough for universal health care.

While you like to think that's true, I view personal responsibility and choice as critical differences compared to those that are fine subsidizing others' terrible choices. There are plenty that suffer involuntarily and those I have no problem helping. In fact, I'm very willing to help those.
 
of course not

My ex gf has a little boy, about 3 years old.

When we first started dating she told me it’s likely you will get sick from spending time with him, especially if I go with her to pick him up from day care. I eventually did get sick, first time in about 6 years.

In an instance like that should I be denied care. I was warned of risk
 
My ex gf has a little boy, about 3 years old.

When we first started dating she told me it’s likely you will get sick from spending time with him, especially if I go with her to pick him up from day care. I eventually did get sick, first time in about 6 years.

In an instance like that should I be denied care. I was warned of risk

This is pathetic on many fronts.
 
While you like to think that's true, I view personal responsibility and choice as critical differences compared to those that are fine subsidizing others' terrible choices. There are plenty that suffer involuntarily and those I have no problem helping. In fact, I'm very willing to help those.
Thankfully, you won't be the one deciding who is deserving and who isn't.
 
Why do people say Aldi’s? It’s “Aldi” god dammit. There isn’t somebody named Johnny Aldi who owns the joint.

Have you no decency? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
That's a Hoosier thing. Or at least a Midwestern/Ohio Valley thing. When I was growing up, no one called it Marsh. It was Marsh's.
 
Peter King's interview with Fauci includes this remark, about his advice being often ignored by the toddler in chief:

"well, you know,” he said, a bit cautiously, “I could only give my medical advice. If there’s infection out there, and I say I think that we should lock down or not, I’m just an opinion among many. Whether people listen to my public health opinion or override it, that’s out of my hands.”

lots of discussion about sporting events and the pandemic too

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/11/nfl-season-dr-fauci-coronavirus-fmia-peter-king/
 
Peter King's interview with Fauci includes this remark, about his advice being often ignored by the toddler in chief:

"well, you know,” he said, a bit cautiously, “I could only give my medical advice. If there’s infection out there, and I say I think that we should lock down or not, I’m just an opinion among many. Whether people listen to my public health opinion or override it, that’s out of my hands.”

lots of discussion about sporting events and the pandemic too

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/11/nfl-season-dr-fauci-coronavirus-fmia-peter-king/
But COH says Trump has taken all the experts’ advice.
 
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Peter King's interview with Fauci includes this remark, about his advice being often ignored by the toddler in chief:

"well, you know,” he said, a bit cautiously, “I could only give my medical advice. If there’s infection out there, and I say I think that we should lock down or not, I’m just an opinion among many. Whether people listen to my public health opinion or override it, that’s out of my hands.”

lots of discussion about sporting events and the pandemic too

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/05/11/nfl-season-dr-fauci-coronavirus-fmia-peter-king/

If we listened to only doctors and journalists we’d be shut down forever.

His opinion is important, but not the only important opinion
 
LOL. You know what will really frost your ass? My wife has only been in the country 20 years, only worked (for money) about twelve, and is on full Medicare and drawing a small but not insignificant amount from Social Security. She refuses to take American citizenship because the oath requires she renounce her Canadian citizenship.
 
LOL. You know what will really frost your ass? My wife has only been in the country 20 years, only worked (for money) about twelve, and is on full Medicare and drawing a small but not insignificant amount from Social Security. She refuses to take American citizenship because the oath requires she renounce her Canadian citizenship.

Sufficiently frosted
 
How does this tie into the country The Ukraine? It seems dispatching with that The is as hard as dispatching the gratuitous The in A Ohio State University.


I cut out the "The" because my Grammarly always points it out as an error.

However, in thinking about your question I think it might have something to do with the fact that under Russian/Soviet control it was referred to as "The Ukraine"- as in a Region of the USSR. So it may be similar to the shift in pronunciation of Kiev to Kyiv. Sort of a "Ukrainian Nationalist" ethos that is promoted by the majority despite the fact that it likely doesn't sit well with Russian nationals and others that help make up the population...
 
Really. Explain. And explain as anybody who is involved in a dynamic situation should explain. If your criticism is “it keeps changing!” then get the **** outta here with that nonsense. It’s unprecedented and it’s gonna change.
 
Really. Explain. And explain as anybody who is involved in a dynamic situation should explain. If your criticism is “it keeps changing!” then get the **** outta here with that nonsense. It’s unprecedented and it’s gonna change.

I think it was the 1st general Moltke (the good one) who said that no plan survives the first encounter with the enemy.
 
Really. Explain. And explain as anybody who is involved in a dynamic situation should explain. If your criticism is “it keeps changing!” then get the **** outta here with that nonsense. It’s unprecedented and it’s gonna change.

It really hasn’t changed tho?

There’s a virus. It has the potential to kill. It spreads easily. Is far more deadly to certain segments of the population and not very deadly to others. This is all info we’ve known for a while.

Originally the goal was to “flatten the curve” as to not overwhelm health care systems. I can get on board with that.

Now, what’s the goal? Force closure of business until the virus is gone?
 
It really hasn’t changed tho?

There’s a virus. It has the potential to kill. It spreads easily. Is far more deadly to certain segments of the population and not very deadly to others. This is all info we’ve known for a while.

Originally the goal was to “flatten the curve” as to not overwhelm health care systems. I can get on board with that.

Now, what’s the goal? Force closure of business until the virus is gone?
Why would you think that last sentence is the goal? Why isn’t keeping non-essential business closed in areas that would likely “unflatten” the curve if opened just plain ol common sense?

really what ulterior motives do you ascribe to these doctors that are “trying to ruin businesses”? Are they part of a left wing death march moving us closer to socialism?
 
LOL. You know what will really frost your ass? My wife has only been in the country 20 years, only worked (for money) about twelve, and is on full Medicare and drawing a small but not insignificant amount from Social Security. She refuses to take American citizenship because the oath requires she renounce her Canadian citizenship.

That dynamic stings. But I encourage and welcome the immigration.
 
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