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Fan Duel Projected ‘24 Win Total for IU at 5.5

I disagree. The ‘24 schedule is generally favorable on paper. Not saying Allen would’ve gone over, but I think Vegas would’ve given a similar line.
No way... Vegas line balances the wagers. Nobody would've bet Indiana if Allen was coming back. Especially as our roster probably would be weaker. Would've needed an O/U of 4 to 4.5 to get many Hoosier fan bets.
 
No way... Vegas line balances the wagers. Nobody would've bet Indiana if Allen was coming back. Especially as our roster probably would be weaker. Would've needed an O/U of 4 to 4.5 to get many Hoosier fan bets.
I don’t think Vegas got on Google and said Cigs is a winner and were blown away by his JMU guys coming over. I think they looked at the schedule.
 
This roster has ALOT of players in key positions who have to prove they can have success against B1G level talent. Over 5.5 feels very optimistic for year 1. CCC may be the IU Football savior we've all been hoping for, but I'm just not ready to make the call for a .500 or better season this yet. I think another house cleaning is coming in spring/summer as he weeds out more players who aren't buying into his way of doing things, and even if we replace all of those departures with P4 talent, 6 wins feels like over achieving this year to me. But who knows...maybe the savior truly walks on water. Every one say a prayer!
 
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I've been beating the bowl-game-or-bust drum since Cigs was hired and I genuinely believe that with the schedule this year that is what the fans should expect. Especially with the bravado the team has been pumping out.

Our schedule is very favorable especially when penciled in L's have lost their coaching staff. The difference last year was a collapse in the final three games after fumbling a leads. We've turned the team over to a more competent staff that was able to retain the top Hoosiers in the portal.
 
I don’t think Vegas got on Google and said Cigs is a winner and were blown away by his JMU guys coming over. I think they looked at the schedule.
Vegas bettors got on google, for sure. It's about cash.
The schedule would've added one to one and a half wins to Allen's otherwise expected two and a half.
 
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With a very capable veteran quarterback, an offensive system that currently has the number one prospect in the country gushing, and Cignetti's proven w/l record, I expect at least a bowl game in year one.

Cignetti doesn't care what the past results were; past results shouldn't be indicative of future results anyway.
 
With a very capable veteran quarterback, an offensive system that currently has the number one prospect in the country gushing, and Cignetti's proven w/l record, I expect at least a bowl game in year one.

Cignetti doesn't care what the past results were; past results shouldn't be indicative of future results anyway.
ironic

Paraphrase: IU’s past results aren’t indicative of future performance because Cignetti’s past results ARE indicative of future performance.
 
ironic

Paraphrase: IU’s past results aren’t indicative of future performance because Cignetti’s past results ARE indicative of future performance.
What's more relevant to the success of the team...a proven coach and new players, or the uniforms and the stadium? There's nothing ironic about that at all. We get it, CTA would've had whatever success CCC has this year. Whoa is me. Hand-wringing.
 
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I've been beating the bowl-game-or-bust drum since Cigs was hired and I genuinely believe that with the schedule this year that is what the fans should expect. Especially with the bravado the team has been pumping out.

Our schedule is very favorable especially when penciled in L's have lost their coaching staff. The difference last year was a collapse in the final three games after fumbling a leads. We've turned the team over to a more competent staff that was able to retain the top Hoosiers in the portal.
I'm with you. I believe betting on 5-5.5-6 W's is shorting IUFB. Piss poor offensive and defensive leadership + Allen's COO generalship were doomed before Fall Camp. Competent, experienced QB with the same from WR's and DC who can keep the Jimmys and Joes in the proper position because they make the right reads gives us positive results we've not seen from both the O and D for some time. I get a very strong impression a Coach Cignetti run team executes gameplan plays with pretty high % of efficiency. We'll see. But it'll be better under current staff than the yearly rejiggered staffs of Allen.
 
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What's more relevant to the success of the team...a proven coach and new players, or the uniforms and the stadium? There's nothing ironic about that at all. We get it, CTA would've had whatever success CCC has this year. Woe is me. Hand-wringing.
The statement was 100% ironic. But I was just messing with him.

CTA clearly didn’t have the success he needed to keep his job. But people need to slow down and have some perspective. IU wasn’t that great in 2020. They weren’t that bad in 2023. Cigs most likely doesn’t walk on water. The schedule in ‘24 has looked favorable since released. If the ‘23 team had won 3 of the 5 games that came down to the literal last minute then CTA would still be here and the Vegas O/U would likely be the same as it is now. I’m not sure why this is so controversial.
 
. If the ‘23 team had won 3 of the 5 games that came down to the literal last minute then CTA would still be here and the Vegas O/U would likely be the same as it is now. I’m not sure why this is so controversial.
And if 'IFs and BUTs' were beer and nuts, this would be one heck of a party.

I don't know why you find it so amazing that Vegas thinks we improved with a coaching staff change and large roster turnover.

Yeah, IF Tom Allen had shown he could coach better, and won 2 or 3 of those close games, it would be the same line. But he didn't. So it wouldn't have been. And that 'if' didn't seem to be what you originally said. But obviously it is true, IF. Nobody argued otherwise.

5.5 is reasonable. We could win 3 or 4 with no bounces or a few injuries, Or win 8 with health and bounces. There's a plenty of of luck in football with any schedule. Non-IU fans aren't going to bet us to win 6 when we almost never do. IU fans easily may take the over, and that could be a lot of fans betting.
 
I don't know why you find it so amazing that Vegas thinks we improved with a coaching staff change and large roster turnover.
And I don’t know why you find it so amazing that Vegas could see that the team wasn’t actually all that bad last year (disregarding coaching quality) and would be poised to do better with a more favorable schedule. EDIT: AND with better coaching.
 
And I don’t know why you find it so amazing that Vegas could see that the team wasn’t actually all that bad last year (disregarding coaching quality) and would be poised to do better with a more favorable schedule. EDIT: AND with better coaching.
That is, what I've been saying.

So I don't find it amazing.

NP, we're just talking past each other. I appreciate the viewpoint. I do think an Indiana O/U isn't going to move a lot from season to season. Track record.
 
And I don’t know why you find it so amazing that Vegas could see that the team wasn’t actually all that bad last year (disregarding coaching quality) and would be poised to do better with a more favorable schedule. EDIT: AND with better coaching.
Last year's team greatly underachieved...I think the performance against PSU showed that there was winning talent on the roster.

Allen's yearly struggle with choosing the correct quarterback and inconsistent hiring decisions, cost him his job.
 
I've been beating the bowl-game-or-bust drum since Cigs was hired and I genuinely believe that with the schedule this year that is what the fans should expect. Especially with the bravado the team has been pumping out.

Our schedule is very favorable especially when penciled in L's have lost their coaching staff. The difference last year was a collapse in the final three games after fumbling a leads. We've turned the team over to a more competent staff that was able to retain the top Hoosiers in the portal.
I don't see where our schedule's that favorable.
 
I don't see where our schedule's that favorable.
3 gimmees in FIU, W. Illinois, & Charlotte

Northwestern is a question mark for me because of how they rallied late in the year.

Nebraska is still in a rebuild
Purdue & MSU were squeakers and at least we’ve got PU at home.

Maryland loses Taulia, I’m still not sure where they stand. And in this crazy transfer portal world, who does?

Felt decent with UCLA because they’d underachieved. But that’s before the HC change.

Wasn’t looking forward to UW, but they’ve been gutted so big question mark.

Don’t like our chances against UM or OSU.

Significantly, IMO, better than last year’s schedule. At least on paper.

Only two games seem like they’ll have IU as significant dogs and it’s been a while since we can say that.

I EXPECT 6+ wins this year. So I’m definitely betting the over.
 
You have to believe before you can win and coach Cignetti and staff have people believing. Now having players live up to what they are pushing will lead to more wins than we think. We have the QBs, receivers, and RBs to make this offense take off along with coach Bostad having the OL ready to do the job.

Our defensive coaches are working to have a much more aggressive defense on the field this year. Add that in and we could see more wins this year.
 
Fan Duel has released IU’s 2024 projected win total at 5.5.

I’m taking the over.
My son made a rare trip to the casino and won at the slot machines. He was playing with house money so before he left, he placed a $6 bet that IU would win the national title. He is probably the reason for the half game. BTW, he will win $6,000 when we win the title.
 
Rourke could find himself in the NFL discussion if he has a good year. He has the size and arm.
He was supposed to be NFL bound after this past season but injuries derailed any chance at that. He's been the #1 prospect for the '24 and now '25 CFL draft so he's going to play football somewhere at the next level. Here's hoping he shows out as the starter and pushes himself to a day 2 draft spot in April next year.

I'm also excited to see how Sunseri can mold Jackson as he looked capable of almost any throw when he wasn't so skittish or rushing throws. Calm him down and see if he can live up to that 4* ranking.
 
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Not sure I’d touch iu at 5.5 if I’m being honest. To me, the two plays I like the most are Purdue and Rutgers over. Probably look at msu and um under and Oregon over as well.
 
FYI, this thread is on an IU board to discuss how many wins we might get next year.
Pretty obvious it’s a thread to discuss iu’s win total. Thanks for confirming that my post was on topic. As a bonus, I threw in a couple other plays I like in the big ten. You are welcome.
 
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Pretty obvious it’s a thread to discuss iu’s win total. Thanks for confirming that my post was on topic. As a bonus, I threw in a couple other plays I like in the big ten. You are welcome.
PUke model fan. About as useless as nipples on a chicken.
 
You said you'd take the PU over. What is the o/u on wins for PU? 0.5? Otherwise, take the under. I think PU finishes last in the B1G in 2024.
This is a thread about iu over/under with no other gambling props allowed. Start another thread and I’ll gladly tell you and tell you why I believe the over is the play.
 
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