Do any of RFK’s defenders still believe he’s not anti-vax?

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

Vaccine critic’s apparent selection to head HHS autism study shocks experts​

Like RFK Jr., David Geier has long clung to debunked assertions, scientists say​

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By Helen Branswell
March 26, 2025
Senior Writer, Infectious Diseases
News that a major player in the anti-vaccine community may have been tasked by the Department of Health and Human Services to conduct a study looking for a link between immunizations and autism has been met with incredulity and dropped jaws among vaccine experts and others familiar with the anti-vaccine movement.
The apparent choice of David Geier — who does not have a medical degree and who was disciplined by the State of Maryland’s Board of Physicians for practicing medicine without a license — to conduct a study looking for the link that HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has long asserted exists, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, struck many as a surreal choice.
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Geier and his father, a physician who lost his medical license in multiple states, promoted claims that use of the preservative thimerosal in vaccines led to an increase in autism diagnoses. A raft of studies has refuted the allegation, and autism rates have not declined in the more than 20 yearssince thimerosal was phased out of most vaccines in the United States. For a time, the two treated autistic children with unproven therapies, including a drug licensed for prostate cancer that induces chemical castration.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

And this:

RFK Jr. forces out Peter Marks, FDA’s top vaccine scientist — The Washington Post

In his resignation letter, Marks rebuked Kennedy for seeking “subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies” about vaccines.

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[WhyisIUBBcursed]

And this:

RFK Jr. forces out Peter Marks, FDA’s top vaccine scientist — The Washington Post

In his resignation letter, Marks rebuked Kennedy for seeking “subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies” about vaccines.

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Leeches and ivermectin for all

 

[UncleMark]

Kids in west Texas are now being hospitalized with vitamin A poisoning.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

It's my understanding that the level of autism in America is much greater than the rest of the world. As in any investigation/ questioning of current procedures and processes, the initial correlation may be incorrect, but if the conversation causes new finding, then it was a successful exercise! It's not important to enter an investigation with a correct opinion, it's only important that the end findings uncover new, provable conclusions.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

It's my understanding that the level of autism in America is much greater than the rest of the world. As in any investigation/ questioning of current procedures and processes, the initial correlation may be incorrect, but if the conversation causes new finding, then it was a successful exercise! It's not important to enter an investigation with a correct opinion, it's only important that the end findings uncover new, provable conclusions.

Damn. This study has been done over and over and over. There is no fvcking link. Just stop

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

Kids in west Texas are now being hospitalized with vitamin A poisoning.

Shocking. Probably using ivermectin and bleach also

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Damn. This study has been done over and over and over. There is no fvcking link. Just stop

Yeah, but now they got guys who did the fake study showing a link back on the case on the government dime. This is progress . . . or something.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Damn. This study has been done over and over and over. There is no fvcking link. Just stop

Why are our citizens more prone to be on the scale?
Simple question.
Go ahead and read all of the released studies. ANSWER one question, why are we more fvcked up than the rest of the world?

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Damn. This study has been done over and over and over. There is no fvcking link. Just stop

OHHHHHH In my 56 years of circling the sun, I have never found one scientific study that was the end all be all. There is ALWAYS new things to learn, that were either unknowns prior, or we weren't even smart enough to understand to ask a specific question.

So, in your apparent very short sighted, ability to simply accept "today's" word as definitive, all answering and never to be questioned again.
YOU, go Fvck youself. You know nothing of our scientific method and are a total partisan ignorant hack. Questioning things, uncover the unknown. I hope your prostate gets inflammed and you simply say... That can't be, it's been studied.

 

[iuwclurker]

Why are our citizens more prone to be on the scale?
Simple question.
Go ahead and read all of the released studies. ANSWER one question, why are we more fvcked up than the rest of the world?

Ever taken a glance at DSM5? You’re on any number of spectra. You just haven’t been “diagnosed“ yet.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Kids in west Texas are now being hospitalized with vitamin A poisoning.

That's just dumb as shit. All the guidance from CDC and WHO clearly say that it should be administered and supervised by doctors.

 

[UncleMark]

That's just dumb as shit. All the guidance from CDC and WHO clearly say that it should be administered and supervised by doctors.

Yeah, but what do they know?

You should go chug some cod liver oil, buddy boy.

 

[sweetsilence]

Yeah, but what do they know?

You should go chug some cod liver oil, buddy boy.

What's wrong with fish oil?

 

[sweetsilence]

Ever taken a glance at DSM5? You’re on any number of spectra. You just haven’t been “diagnosed“ yet.

This is a good point. Look hard enough and there is something wrong with all of us.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Yeah, but what do they know?

You should go chug some cod liver oil, buddy boy.

What's cod liver oil got to do with anything measles related?

Or with what I said?

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Yeah, but what do they know?

You should go chug some cod liver oil, buddy boy.

That will cleanse your innerds! If you question it, go try it. But be prepared!

 

[UncleMark]

What's cod liver oil got to do with anything measles related?

Or with what I said?

Cod liver oil recommended by RFKjr for measles treatment. Good source of vitamin A. Plus a dose of snark on my part.

 

[iuwclurker]

Yeah, but what do they know?

You should go chug some cod liver oil, buddy boy.

That’s an expensive habit you got there…

 

[hookyIU1990]

Cod liver oil recommended by RFKjr for measles treatment. Good source of vitamin A. Plus a dose of snark on my part.

I have't seen the RFKjr Cod liver oil recommendation.

I thought you were wishing death by fat soluble vitamins on me for a sec.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

OHHHHHH In my 56 years of circling the sun, I have never found one scientific study that was the end all be all. There is ALWAYS new things to learn, that were either unknowns prior, or we weren't even smart enough to understand to ask a specific question.

I'm just pleasantly surprised you referred to a year as "circling the sun".

 

[UncleMark]

I thought you were wishing death by fat soluble vitamins Purdue cheerleaders on me for a sec.

FIFY

 

[hookyIU1990]

FIFY

Take that back!

 

[UncleMark]

I have't seen the RFKjr Cod liver oil recommendation.

One reference among many.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/05/health/measles-rfk-vitamin-a-misinformation/index.html

 

[UncleMark]

Take that back!

If you gotta go, go out with a bang.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

OHHHHHH In my 56 years of circling the sun, I have never found one scientific study that was the end all be all. There is ALWAYS new things to learn, that were either unknowns prior, or we weren't even smart enough to understand to ask a specific question.

So, in your apparent very short sighted, ability to simply accept "today's" word as definitive, all answering and never to be questioned again.
YOU, go Fvck youself. You know nothing of our scientific method and are a total partisan ignorant hack. Questioning things, uncover the unknown. I hope your prostate gets inflammed and you simply say... That can't be, it's been studied.

You’re way too defensive. You weren’t one of the guys that did the repeatedly debunked study.

 

[iuwclurker]

If you gotta go, go out with a bang.

Bangs

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

You’re way too defensive. You weren’t one of the guys that did the repeatedly debunked study.

My original post was not to defend any study, yet to admire never accepting "todays truth" as gospel. I quite explicitly said that questioning things, leads to new learning, that maybe/ probably we never had the intelligence to ask a specific question to begin with. RFK very well may be a loon. But if so, so was Tesla, Marconi, Edison, Eienstein...
We have a KNOWN higher autism rate. WHY?

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

My original post was not to defend any study, yet to admire never accepting "todays truth" as gospel. I quite explicitly said that questioning things, leads to new learning, that maybe/ probably we never had the intelligence to ask a specific question to begin with. RFK very well may be a loon. But if so, so was Tesla, Marconi, Edison, Eienstein...
We have a KNOWN higher autism rate. WHY?

I wouldn’t compare RFK to any of those guys.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

I wouldn’t compare RFK to any of those guys.

Okay, but I think you're diggin in a hole that I didn't have a shovel in to begin with.
WE have an issue. It needs to be looked at with different eyes than who potentially created it to start with. New eyes, are not a bad thing.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

My original post was not to defend any study, yet to admire never accepting "todays truth" as gospel. I quite explicitly said that questioning things, leads to new learning, that maybe/ probably we never had the intelligence to ask a specific question to begin with. RFK very well may be a loon. But if so, so was Tesla, Marconi, Edison, Eienstein...
We have a KNOWN higher autism rate. WHY?

Do you have a clue how many actual real scientific studies by…. You know…. Actual real scientists have been done disproving the link between vaccines and autism? I don’t know why we’re so fvcked up as a society, but I’m pretty sure Pfizer didn’t cause it. You know what is actually true? When dumb fvckers don’t vaccinate because they believe hacks who find a friend’s medical coat and spew nonsense, morbidity and mortality from preventable diseases skyrockets. I always figured population control would occur due to famine, nuclear war, etc…. The good news is dumbassery will take care of it
.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

OHHHHHH In my 56 years of circling the sun, I have never found one scientific study that was the end all be all. There is ALWAYS new things to learn, that were either unknowns prior, or we weren't even smart enough to understand to ask a specific question.

So, in your apparent very short sighted, ability to simply accept "today's" word as definitive, all answering and never to be questioned again.
YOU, go Fvck youself. You know nothing of our scientific method and are a total partisan ignorant hack. Questioning things, uncover the unknown. I hope your prostate gets inflammed and you simply say... That can't be, it's been studied.

And my prostate is just fine. Thanks for your concern.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Do you have a clue how many actual real scientific studies by…. You know…. Actual real scientists have been done disproving the link between vaccines and autism? I don’t know why we’re so fvcked up as a society, but I’m pretty sure Pfizer didn’t cause it. You know what is actually true? When dumb fvckers don’t vaccinate because they believe hacks who find a friend’s medical coat and spew nonsense, morbidity and mortality from preventable diseases skyrockets. I always figured population control would occur due to famine, nuclear war, etc…. The good news is dumbassery will take care of it
.

Can a study actually disprove a link? No it can't. It can only NOT FIND a link.
You are PRETTY sure that Pfizer .......... I never trust and ALWAYS question a message board warrior that PRETTY much is confident. If someone has a knife to your genitals, how PRETTY much confident are you that they won't stop you from breading? Kinda PRETTY much, really PRETTY much, or totally sure and willing to see how it ends up? ?
You all trust your nutz, in a system that is designed to have repeated additional studies because there is NO ANSWER that is ever definitive. EVER!
You are fighting me, because we have a problem, that you can't explain and apparently are okay with simply accepting, and I am simply saying that asking more questions is a good thing.
I don't like telling anyone to go fvck themselves, but there are times that it is required.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

Can a study actually disprove a link? No it can't. It can only NOT FIND a link.
You are PRETTY sure that Pfizer .......... I never trust and ALWAYS question a message board warrior that PRETTY much is confident. If someone has a knife to your genitals, how PRETTY much confident are you that they won't stop you from breading? Kinda PRETTY much, really PRETTY much, or totally sure and willing to see how it ends up? ?
You all trust your nutz, in a system that is designed to have repeated additional studies because there is NO ANSWER that is ever definitive. EVER!
You are fighting me, because we have a problem, that you can't explain and apparently are okay with simply accepting, and I am simply saying that asking more questions is a good thing.
I don't like telling anyone to go fvck themselves, but there are times that it is required.

You are a deranged human being. I hope you live alone in the woods and haven’t procreated

 

[Bowlmania]

Vaccine critic’s apparent selection to head HHS autism study shocks experts​

Like RFK Jr., David Geier has long clung to debunked assertions, scientists say​

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Vernon Bryant/The Dallas Morning News via AP

By Helen Branswell
March 26, 2025
Senior Writer, Infectious Diseases
News that a major player in the anti-vaccine community may have been tasked by the Department of Health and Human Services to conduct a study looking for a link between immunizations and autism has been met with incredulity and dropped jaws among vaccine experts and others familiar with the anti-vaccine movement.
The apparent choice of David Geier — who does not have a medical degree and who was disciplined by the State of Maryland’s Board of Physicians for practicing medicine without a license — to conduct a study looking for the link that HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has long asserted exists, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary, struck many as a surreal choice.
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Geier and his father, a physician who lost his medical license in multiple states, promoted claims that use of the preservative thimerosal in vaccines led to an increase in autism diagnoses. A raft of studies has refuted the allegation, and autism rates have not declined in the more than 20 yearssince thimerosal was phased out of most vaccines in the United States. For a time, the two treated autistic children with unproven therapies, including a drug licensed for prostate cancer that induces chemical castration.

It’s possible there’s been a worse-than-Kennedy Cabinet pick in my lifetime, but no one is coming to mind. Maybe Matt Gaetz for AG, but that nomination was ultimately withdrawn.

 

[Rockport Zebra]

It's my understanding that the level of autism in America is much greater than the rest of the world. As in any investigation/ questioning of current procedures and processes, the initial correlation may be incorrect, but if the conversation causes new finding, then it was a successful exercise! It's not important to enter an investigation with a correct opinion, it's only important that the end findings uncover new, provable conclusions.

Polio.

 

[BradStevens]

What's cod liver oil got to do with anything measles related?

Or with what I said?

It's just something old people blurt out every once in a while.

 

[ButHerEmails]

Kids in west Texas are now being hospitalized with vitamin A poisoning.

Yeah, but Biden is old and Kamala is annoying.

 

[Eppy99]

The question however still to be answered by the the thread title is:

Do any of RFK’s defenders still believe he’s not anti-vax?​

I understand @Joe_Hoopsier believes the study should commence, and he’s entitled to his opinion. But do you defend RFK is not anti-vax? And do you support his choice to head the study?

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

The question however still to be answered by the the thread title is:

Do any of RFK’s defenders still believe he’s not anti-vax?​

I understand @Joe_Hoopsier believes the study should commence, and he’s entitled to his opinion. But do you defend RFK is not anti-vax? And do you support his choice to head the study?

Thank you for trying to get this back on the rail. I doubt it will and I doubt too many Trumpers will jump in and support this nonsense because it’s truly indefensible