When one person says on board like this "you are an idiot" that person has said nothing important. When another person agrees, they are of less importance.
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When one person says on board like this "you are an idiot" that person has said nothing important. When another person agrees, they are of less importance.
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Nuance isn’t your strength. Trump messaging clear. The art of disagreement. I’m a lawyer.
I just saved you carpal tunnel.
Wall Street Journal has a poll out today saying only 40% of Republicans believe "the worst is yet to come". Where is that coming from if not Trump as Dr Fauci has been very specific on that.
https://www.thehill.com/policy/heal...say-worst-is-yet-to-come-in-pandemic-poll?amp
https://www.thehill.com/policy/heal...say-worst-is-yet-to-come-in-pandemic-poll?amp
Dr Fauci has been quite clear. List your expertise in this matter, what degrees do you have? How many hours of work? You think you can pull an opinion out of your ass and that is as valid as the freaking expert. It is not my opinion, I am listening to someone that knows something. Obviously you have never done that or you would not be so stupid.
That's no doubt true. Another explanation is that those who live in high density urban areas or more worried than those who live in low density rural areas. Even in urban areas, I know that seniors who live in high density over 55 apartments are more concerned than those who live in single family homes. There are a number of reasons for this statistic besides Trump!
But in the final analysis, this is more irrelevant noise. This poll has nothing to do with how I will behave.
What is sad is that he pretends that he's "parrying" with those who've cared enough about him to call him out on his, um, behavior here, and pretends it's a cute "art" of disagreement.
There's no good faith with CO. He just doesn't have it in him. All discourse is there for his personal pleasure, not for knowledge, common ground or even the common good. It's all about CO.
I have far better things to do.
Nice Avatar! He was my second choice. A great Republican. The Republican party could use more Lincoln's, Teddy's, and Ike's.
When COVID-19 started shutting things down in the US, one of my conservative FB friends immediately started to defend Trump. He blamed fake news, MSM, liberals, Democrats, ect, even though there weren't any liberals blaming Trump for anything (at the time). So, finally after a few dozen shallow conspiracy theory posts(each of which received a few hundred likes), one of my liberal friends commented and left a Factcheck link, which explained why his post was fake news. Can you guess what my conservative friends response was? He deleted the commented FC link, and left the fake news link. How could someone so opposed to fake news, do something like that?
A second conservative friend posited that COVID-19 was a Chinese attempt to hurt President Trump because he, "hurt them so badly in the recent trade agreement." And that China was attempting to takeover the world and wanted to become the world's number one exporter of agriculture products.
Finally, a third conservative FB friend, blamed Democrats for COVID-19. Upset that local schools and sporting events were being shutdown, she claimed it was an attempt-by Democrats-to ruin President Trump's great economy in an election year. It just so happens her father is a 68 year old liver transplant recipient.
I know these are extreme examples, but each of these people receive a lot of likes and positive comments. I feel like, in the not so distant past, there would have been time to evaluate not just claims made by people, but the people themselves. After a few wild inaccurate claims, people would lose all credibility, and thus be tuned out. But not in today's environment. Instead, we have people like Hack, to remind us that we are the problem, and we just need to get past our TDS.
I think one of the most frustrating things about post truth and Trumpism, is that there is no longer any form of accountability.
When COVID-19 started shutting things down in the US, one of my conservative FB friends immediately started to defend Trump. He blamed fake news, MSM, liberals, Democrats, ect, even though there weren't any liberals blaming Trump for anything (at the time). So, finally after a few dozen shallow conspiracy theory posts(each of which received a few hundred likes), one of my liberal friends commented and left a Factcheck link, which explained why his post was fake news. Can you guess what my conservative friends response was? He deleted the commented FC link, and left the fake news link. How could someone so opposed to fake news, do something like that?
A second conservative friend posited that COVID-19 was a Chinese attempt to hurt President Trump because he, "hurt them so badly in the recent trade agreement." And that China was attempting to takeover the world and wanted to become the world's number one exporter of agriculture products.
Finally, a third conservative FB friend, blamed Democrats for COVID-19. Upset that local schools and sporting events were being shutdown, she claimed it was an attempt-by Democrats-to ruin President Trump's great economy in an election year. It just so happens her father is a 68 year old liver transplant recipient.
I know these are extreme examples, but each of these people receive a lot of likes and positive comments. I feel like, in the not so distant past, there would have been time to evaluate not just claims made by people, but the people themselves. After a few wild inaccurate claims, people would lose all credibility, and thus be tuned out. But not in today's environment. Instead, we have people like Hack, to remind us that we are the problem, and we just need to get past our TDS.
"Some people go to work" sounds like awesome advice. But you have a point...it has been clear consistent and concise. Just F'd up.
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there are people who think the earth is flat.... does that keep you up at night? Global warming? I just don’t understand the fist wringing that’s going on because people may or may not agree completely with what you or who ever believes. It is TDS. If you can’t read posts above and see TDS at all in the posts then you are part of the problem. You aren’t being honest.
Saw a Trumpist yesterday, and he was touting the largest one-day increase in the stock markets on Friday. He didn't mention the largest drop on Thursday, or that Friday didn't rebound enough to cover the drop on Thursday, or the fact that the markets are down 22% from a month ago, or that there aren't enough test kits for what's needed out there now, or that the administration blew the possibility of containment . . . he's just worried that the drop in the markets may have screwed up the potential sale of an 11,000 square foot warehouse building he owns, which will delay his very early retirement . . .
. . . there's no accountability, no cause and effect analysis with these people. Only the false narrative about how "great" things are and "I got mine" . . . .
I didn't take that as "advice". I heard as a statement of what people have done. But I have different confirmation bias than you.
I guess i don't blame a Gov for trying to support local business. "Packed" is not a word I would use but Mark Cuban is being praised up one side and down the other for the same thing. But he is not a Pub...
I am a long way from being a "trumpist" despite what one poster claims...but I was happy with the uptick Friday. We need about five more. I guess that makes me evil to some..
Those people aren't "conservative". They're crazy.
I agree with the no accountability anymore. But if we discussed this any further, I have the feeling we'd get into deep disagreement about what's involved.
I also get the feeling that those posters here who frequent Facebook and Twitter often impute the whackjob views on those platforms to the conservatives here. Frankly, I dont know why you would bring whack-job Facebook and Twitter posts here unless you are searching for a means to bash Trumpists, conservatives, or whatever. I haven't read any of that stuff here.
If I have TDS, why did I start a thread complementing the Afghan deal then another complementing his Friday speech.
Why do Republicans not believe Trump's administration on the seriousness we face? Or better yet, why do you think the Trump administration is lying? Do you have TDS?
Good news is that we have Devin Nunes on the case to dole out top-notch advice like "Go out to your local pub" to help keep things really clear.
https://news.yahoo.com/local-pub-while-experts-call-182229550.html
I don’t think they (Trump) are lying. You do. I’m okay with the responses from the President. I don’t take one word he utters and make it into a conspiracy. You have TDS. Your first sentence shows that as many claim on here that Trumpist agree with everything he says. Clearly they don’t. People have different thoughts from each other. Again, why do you feel it necessary that everyone agrees with you? Why is that such a big issue with the left? See the problem is you don’t have control over our vote. Look at the Bernie wing of your party. You guys placate them and make them believe they are being listened to (for their vote) but when it comes down to it, you guys stack the deck and keep them from participating.
I mean although I consider myself religious, I don’t agree with certain positions or practices of the church. Missionaries for example is an innocuous subject but one I have strong feelings about. I haven’t abandoned common sense by abandoning the church or my beliefs simply because it is supported in churches.
I can say a few nice things about Hussein Obama also. That doesn’t make me the most level headed person when it comes to me discussing him. Nor does it change what I’ll say to him if I ever get that opportunity. But he isn’t President now.... I do draw contrasts about the selective memory many on the left have concerning the previous admin and this one. That’s the nature of the game. After this election cycle I hope it quiets down.
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You are a piece of work, you say Hussein Obama and accuse others of TDS. You don't give a damn about the country as long as liberals are mad.
I wanted to know what qualifies a non-thinking creature like you to say the experts are wrong. It appears to be in the DNA of some conservatives to assume drinking Bud qualifies them as the smartest humans on earth on every subject.
So I don't give a damn if people agree with me. The only reason I am smarter than you is I realize there are people smarter than me and I try to listen to them.
You don't want to listen to anyone unless they agree with you. I am not an epidemiologist, one would be stupid to agree with me. The question is why do you hate smart people?
What am I disagreeing about from the experts? I’m not being a smart ass, I really don’t know what you are pointing at. I disagree that this is Trumps fault or his response has been abysmal. That is what I am saying.... if you are suggesting I don’t think the pandemic is serious then I don’t know where I have said that.
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My poll was saying that over half of the GOP do not think the problem will get worse before it gets better. That is not what the experts are saying. You seemed to take offense at that. The logical conclusion is you do not think it will get worse before it will get better.
Why do a majority of Republicans disagree with that statement. Conservatives have formed Fox and Breitbart to get news to confirm their beliefs. So they may get it from those locations. Also some in the administration have doubted the expert. I hope CO reads this one:
https://www.businessinsider.com/fiv...tration-downplayed-the-coronavirus-2020-3?amp
What does “getting worse” mean? Of course it will get worse in the States and most of the world before we get our arms around the virus. I don’t think polls are accurate at all these days. People answer with politics in mind anymore fearful to provide the other side any leverage. So yes, I don’t believe the poll saying 60% of republicans think we have seen the worst already. We are hopeful that we hit the peak in the next few weeks but we don’t know.
what I take exception to is the blaming of the admin that is taking place. As a Democrat, are you not concerned that your current front runner thinks travel bans concerning the coronavirus is xenophobia? That would concern me. Maybe he misspoke like he has in the past. Kinda convenient to always have that to fall back on....he gets a pass. In fact, he has been on the wrong side of just about every major issue even the ones the Dems hold up as things they are proud of....
I think it is TDS that allows this to happen.
I think everyone was happy with the uptick on Friday and I’m not sure how the post led you to the conclusion that anyone thinks you are “evil” for being happy the market went up Friday.
The point seemed to be that there was no mention of the market Mon-Thursday and then HE, and many of his fans, brag that Friday was the biggest point gain ever. Of course no mention that it was still a 8.7% drop for the week. When it comes to the market Trump seemingly takes credit for every point of increase (I’m making you rich etc) while blaming others for every point it goes down.
I hope we soon see more huge upside days but am not looking forward to Monday as the closures are rapidly increasing. Hate to think what will happen if hourly service workers, and those that depend on them, can’t make rent and/or car payments in a month or two. Hopefully this ends relatively soon and it is a moot point.
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Thank god. You should see what's it's covering.
I think they call them 'camel toes'.
Those poll participants are probably the ones hoarding toilet paper and bottled water. That’s stupid. It makes no sense at all. I don’t see how Trump is the blame for all the stupidity over COVID-19.
Hopefully all the states follow suit and we get aggressive for a few weeks: no school, bars, restaurants, sports, close the borders, restrict travel, etc. A piecemeal approach will just drag this thing out. Let's go balls to the wall for a few weeks and see what impact it makes.
