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Some people see government as their emotional support animal.

How’s your spring training trip going? I assume since you don’t need any of that emotional support that you’re still making that trip? Or now that the story has changed have you changed your mind too? Feel free to dance and evade, your story has changed and you’re calling it consistent.
 
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What crisis are you watching?

The message from the entire administration is clear and consistent. Wash your hands. Social distancing. Don’t fly or travel unless necessary. Don’t shake hands. If you are sick stay home. And stay away from the elderly, especially those in nursing homes. Notwithstanding this clear messaging, one smarter than your average poster here strangely contemplated an Easter visit to his MIL in a nursing home.

We constantly see questions from the press about specific behavior that is answered by the guidance we have been provided. Some people will always avoid decisions and want to be told what to do.

Hmm, if you are talking about me visiting my Mil, it was something planned back at Christmas. We wanted to do it as all my kids could go down and see her, that has not happened in years. But we obviously cannot.

As to cleat consistent messaging, how many times has Trump used the word contained. How many times Friday did he shake hands? True or false, was he planning on continuing campaign rallies even after the Dems stopped? In what way has he been clear and consistent with hos commission?
 
I think there are some older folks that think, what the hell, I’ve had a good run. Talked to one of those yesterday.

tbh if I was in my late 70s or beyond it’s not worth changing my life to live a few more crippled years
 
Hopefully the rest of us get big numbers soon. The Indiana State Health Commissioner held a press conference Friday:

She said more tests are on the way and Indiana labs, schools, and companies are working on developing their own tests for the virus.

“Indiana State Department of Health is trying to reserve our testing for those individuals that are the most severely ill,” said Box.​
Have a friend with a heart condition and all the symptoms. Dr. Ordered test and said it could be a week or more. Fortunately the person is young, so will probably be ok.
 
Spain going full lockdown now like Italy. All businesses closed other than groceries, drug stores, e.t.c....

That may well be us in 7-10 days.
Man, I have to get home and get to the store. Since I’m in Btown most of the year I have nothing in Indy. But wine, I have lots of wine. Also just saw Michigan just cancelled graduation services. This is going to break my heart for the seniors.
 
The kids on the beaches and those pouring out of the bars and restaurants haven't been informed.
And their grandparent dying in a few weeks will thank them. Hopefully they will be smart enough to quarantine themselves from the elderly when they get home. I’m in Florida also, but a family not a college destination. I’ve seen lots of peop,e wearing gloves, wiping things down, etc.m
 
I've never seen such a shameless ball licker. He has absolutely no pride, dignity, or self worth. It's repulsive.

Watching Pence praise Trump in virtually every sentence is amazing/disgusting to watch. I’ve seen “kiss-asses” in my career but nothing even remotely close to this. It’s how I envision North Korean’s interacting with Kim Jong-un
 
No. You thinking Americans are going to shelter in place makes you insane. I see all ages. All races. I have seen one mask on an ancient dude.

I think most people aren't sitting in front of the TV waiting for instructions from the Federal government on how to conduct their daily lives.

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That’s like a tiny fraction of what spring break usually looks like.
 
I’ve always decided when I get old I’m doing heroin and if it take some out, it takes me out. Little Miss Sunshine is my inspiration.

I always wanted to form a Chinese version of a kibbutz -- minus the farming malarkey. But always with a qualified doctor in the settlement for this very purpose.
 
What crisis are you watching?

The message from the entire administration is clear and consistent. Wash your hands. Social distancing. Don’t fly or travel unless necessary. Don’t shake hands. If you are sick stay home. And stay away from the elderly, especially those in nursing homes. Notwithstanding this clear messaging, one smarter than your average poster here strangely contemplated an Easter visit to his MIL in a nursing home.

We constantly see questions from the press about specific behavior that is answered by the guidance we have been provided. Some people will always avoid decisions and want to be told what to do.
Consistent. Lmao. Two weeks ago it was a Democratic Hoax and now it’s a national emergency. That's the epitome of consistently. Seriously, I don’t see how your mind actually lets you type this type of junk.
 
Consistent. Lmao. Two weeks ago it was a Democratic Hoax and now it’s a national emergency. That's the epitome of consistently. Seriously, I don’t see how your mind actually lets you type this type of junk.

He has a lie/BS filter/mechanism built over a lifetime.

Example: this filter has the ability to take out all the 16,000+ lies. It then only remembers or leaves behind the few bits of information which may be half-truths anyway.

This mechanism also helps you defend the less defensibles.
 
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I’ve seen lots of peop,e wearing gloves, wiping things down, etc.m
We bought a cruise 2 years ago and of course it was cancelled. We decided to drive down anyway and go fishing. People literally holding their breath if passing too close to each other. Profiling seems back in style. We stayed in Hollywood today. Ft Lauderdale is madness. Shoulder-to-shoulder crowds (we observed thru the windshield of our air-conditioned automobile. I was actually surprised to see so many elderly out among the m asses, although one couldn't swing a dead cat around in Florida without hitting and elder.

Entry doors, gas pumps, shopping points-of-sale, baskarts, community pens... It's a wonder we're not all dead already.
 
We bought a cruise 2 years ago and of course it was cancelled. We decided to drive down anyway and go fishing. People literally holding their breath if passing too close to each other. Profiling seems back in style. We stayed in Hollywood today. Ft Lauderdale is madness. Shoulder-to-shoulder crowds (we observed thru the windshield of our air-conditioned automobile. I was actually surprised to see so many elderly out among the m asses, although one couldn't swing a dead cat around in Florida without hitting and elder.

Entry doors, gas pumps, shopping points-of-sale, baskarts, community pens... It's a wonder we're not all dead already.

Once you peak, then in a couple of months time, you will find the retail traffic improving. But then when the 2nd wave will come in. Complacency.

We are at this stage now.
 
Hmm, if you are talking about me visiting my Mil, it was something planned back at Christmas. We wanted to do it as all my kids could go down and see her, that has not happened in years. But we obviously cannot.

As to cleat consistent messaging, how many times has Trump used the word contained. How many times Friday did he shake hands? True or false, was he planning on continuing campaign rallies even after the Dems stopped? In what way has he been clear and consistent with hos commission?
Consistent. Lmao. Two weeks ago it was a Democratic Hoax and now it’s a national emergency. That's the epitome of consistently. Seriously, I don’t see how your mind actually lets you type this type of junk.

I had no trouble seeing and hearing a clear and concise message from all involved about what to do. But then I’m not burdened with stage 4 TDS which adversely affects your ability to hear, process, and retain information.

Seriously, comments about campaign rallies, statements about containment, and hoax hoaxes don’t mean squat. Unless of course you think squat is important.
 
My wife and I moved to South Dakota in early December. I took a job helping run a resort at The Badlands. It’s a restaurant/lodging/retail place. The lodge gets booked up in the summer months way in advance. We have staff (waiters/retail/maintenance) coming in to work from across the country. We open up April 25th and our staff gets here April 7th.

Obviously, there’s zero scenario this is cleared up by then. The GM, thankfully, understands the magnitude of what’s going on. Plus he’s highly susceptible to the virus being over 60 and surviving cancer.

I’ve never been in a situation like this before. We are bound by corporate to stay open or not. I’m doing everything I can think of to keep the place safe for our employees and guests, but being apart of a resort makes me feel guilty that I’m potentially contributing to this outbreak. I have no clue what to do right now.
 
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tbh if I was in my late 70s or beyond it’s not worth changing my life to live a few more crippled years

Couple of things . . . .

First: The chances of someone in my age group becoming infected with COVID-19 is 8.8%. The chances of someone within that group from dying from COVID-19 is 8%. Thus the chances of someone in my age group dying from COVID-19 is .7%. The chances of somebody my age dying from any cause within one year is 4.39%. COVID increases my risk of death within one year to 5.09% from 4.39%. Obviously individual circumstances change these averages. And We should take the universal precautions. But overall, this isn't worth hoarding toilet paper over.

Second: No crippled years here.
 
I had no trouble seeing and hearing a clear and concise message from all involved about what to do. But then I’m not burdened with stage 4 TDS which adversely affects your ability to hear, process, and retain information.

Seriously, comments about campaign rallies, statements about containment, and hoax hoaxes don’t mean squat. Unless of course you think squat is important.

I am just going to have to pit you on ignore, when you jumped with both feet into being a populist instead of a conservative you lost your ability to reason. You refuse to accept that a president saying stupid things is a problem. You said the message is consistent. Trump's message WAS NOT consistent. It was pointed out to you
You then say anyone who finds his words and actions a problem has TDS. ARE THEY CONSISTENT OR NOT IS THE QUESTION.

saying it was contained was not consistent. Saying anyone who wants a test can get a test was not consistent.

Is it possible you do not know the word consistent? Or is it the word message?

I am sorry you threw Edmund Burke into the trash and became Green Teeth from Uneasy Rider. I hope you enjoy your John Birch society meetings and love your 10 "US out of UN" yard signs. Because anyone who says speeches and actions that are totally opposite of what the commission is saying is consistent messaging is brainwashed.

I won't see a reply, life is too short to deal with brainwashed people. I have given Trump a couple compliments lately, on his Friday speech and on Afghanistan. I noticed you are so brainwashed you cannot even criticize the train wreck from Wednesday night.

As you are thinking up your response. "I said, good day".
 
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I am just going to have to pit you on ignore, when you jumped with both feet into being a populist instead of a conservative you lost your ability to reason. You refuse to accept that a president saying stupid things is a problem. You said the message is consistent. Trump's message WAS NOT consistent. It was pointed out to you
You then say anyone who finds his words and actions a problem has TDS. ARE THEY CONSISTENT OR NOT IS THE QUESTION.

saying it was contained was not consistent. Saying anyone who wants a test can get a test was not consistent.

Is it possible you do not know the word consistent? Or is it the word message?

I am sorry you threw Edmund Burke into the trash and became Green Teeth from Uneasy Rider. I hope you enjoy your John Birch society meetings and love your 10 "US out of UN" yard signs. Because anyone who says speeches and actions that are totally opposite of what the commission is saying is consistent messaging is brainwashed.

I won't see a reply, life is too short to deal with brainwashed people. I have given Trump a couple compliments lately, on his Friday speech and on Afghanistan. I noticed you are so brainwashed you cannot even criticize the train wreck from Wednesday night.

As you are thinking up your response. "I said, good day".

Let me add, ask someone like Aloha if military leaders who say batcrap crazy things inspire the men to follow them. What one says DOES matter when one is a leader. The guy on the street corner with a "please give" sign, saying batcrap crazy things is probably a positive.
 
I am just going to have to pit you on ignore, when you jumped with both feet into being a populist instead of a conservative you lost your ability to reason. You refuse to accept that a president saying stupid things is a problem. You said the message is consistent. Trump's message WAS NOT consistent. It was pointed out to you
You then say anyone who finds his words and actions a problem has TDS. ARE THEY CONSISTENT OR NOT IS THE QUESTION.

saying it was contained was not consistent. Saying anyone who wants a test can get a test was not consistent.

Is it possible you do not know the word consistent? Or is it the word message?

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Perhaps nuance isn't your strongest attribute?



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I am just going to have to pit you on ignore, when you jumped with both feet into being a populist instead of a conservative you lost your ability to reason. You refuse to accept that a president saying stupid things is a problem. You said the mCoH’ sophistry is onvious here essage is consistent. Trump's message WAS NOT consistent. It was pointed out to you
You then say anyone who finds his words and actions a problem has TDS. ARE THEY CONSISTENT OR NOT IS THE QUESTION.

saying it was contained was not consistent. Saying anyone who wants a test can get a test was not consistent.

Is it possible you do not know the word consistent? Or is it the word message?

I am sorry you threw Edmund Burke into the trash and became Green Teeth from Uneasy Rider. I hope you enjoy your John Birch society meetings and love your 10 "US out of UN" yard signs. Because anyone who says speeches and actions that are totally opposite of what the commission is saying is consistent messaging is brainwashed.

I won't see a reply, life is too short to deal with brainwashed people. I have given Trump a couple compliments lately, on his Friday speech and on Afghanistan. I noticed you are so brainwashed you cannot even criticize the train wreck from Wednesday night.

As you are thinking up your response. "I said, good day".
CoH’s sophistry is obvious here. He lies to himself that he’s being honest by saying the Admin’s been consistent with the message while carefully avoiding saying that Trump’s been consistent.

CoH will never engage honestly.
 
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Consistent. Lmao. Two weeks ago it was a Democratic Hoax and now it’s a national emergency. That's the epitome of consistently. Seriously, I don’t see how your mind actually lets you type this type of junk.
More profound is how he lives with himself.

I raised my children with basically one theme — always be honest, especially with yourself.
 

Wow. They are going the Full China on your ass. You only have a few more than we have here.
Have the tracked, mapped and isolated the primary and secondary contacts there? I think its good. I got a friend who is a doctor who believes in their approach for healthcare --- whack it fast and whack it hard before it gets really bad for her patients.

I think its good.

Meanwhile back in my ranch:

Singapore residents advised to defer all non-essential travel for next 30 days, as part of new Covid-19 measures
Singapore residents should defer all non-essential travel, and border restrictions have been tightened to include all Asean states, as the Republic moves to reduce the growing risk of Covid-19 importation.

The 30-day travel advisory for Singapore residents is subject to further review, the Government said.

From 11.59pm on Monday (March 16), all travellers - including Singapore citizens, permanent residents, long-term pass holders and short-term visitors - entering Singapore with recent travel history to Asean countries, Japan, Switzerland, or the United Kingdom within the last 14 days will be issued a 14-day stay-home notice (SHN).

This will exclude travellers from Malaysia who arrive by land and sea, given the large numbers who cross the borders daily, said National Development Minister Lawrence Wong at a press conference on Sunday.


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They seem to be escalating things incrementally here.
 
I had no trouble seeing and hearing a clear and concise message from all involved about what to do. But then I’m not burdened with stage 4 TDS which adversely affects your ability to hear, process, and retain information.

Seriously, comments about campaign rallies, statements about containment, and hoax hoaxes don’t mean squat. Unless of course you think squat is important.

I confess to not having your power of nuance. Can you look through this timeline of Trump’s messaging on Covid 19 and explain the consistency you claim?

 
CoH’s sophistry is obvious here. He lies to himself that he’s being honest by saying the Admin’s been consistent with the message while carefully avoiding saying that Trump’s been consistent.

CoH will never engage honestly.

Yep, if what the lead messenger says is 180 degrees from everyone else, there is no way messaging is consistent. That is the very definition of inconsistent.

CO fooled me with his love of Ike. Ike was not a loud mouthed braggadicio. One would never have tolerated such as a subordinate as seen by his run ins with Patton. One hated, hated, the populist wing of the GOP. One believed firmly in the US taking a lead in world affairs. Ike would be a never Trumper.

But CO know the GOP is cluster****ed since only "Trump is a God" people are left. So CO is spreading the Messianic message.

He has just enough sanity left to say"discount everything Trump says". When it comes to leadership, and especially when it comes to "consistent messaging", one cannot discount what is said. CO knows that, but he plays a game with it. Most of us are smart enough to know words are part of a consistent message. So we're handshakes.

Polls haze shown Republicans have been less likely to self quarantine and less likely to hand wash more. Where are they getting that message from? Trump going on Fox and saying the virus is contained and is a media hoax to damage his presidency. Yet that is part of a consistent message?

Obviously CO is playing each and every one of us for idiots. If he isn't showing us any respect at all, I am just going to ignore him from here on out. I am far from the smartest person here, hell CO is probably smarter than me. But I am not an abject moron like he assumes will fall for his big lies. In other words, I have a good 50 IQ points on president Turnip. Apologies to turnips who have 10 IQ points on the real resident and double his natural curiosity.
 
Yep, if what the lead messenger says is 180 degrees from everyone else, there is no way messaging is consistent. That is the very definition of inconsistent.

CO fooled me with his love of Ike. Ike was not a loud mouthed braggadicio. One would never have tolerated such as a subordinate as seen by his run ins with Patton. One hated, hated, the populist wing of the GOP. One believed firmly in the US taking a lead in world affairs. Ike would be a never Trumper.

But CO know the GOP is cluster****ed since only "Trump is a God" people are left. So CO is spreading the Messianic message.

He has just enough sanity left to say"discount everything Trump says". When it comes to leadership, and especially when it comes to "consistent messaging", one cannot discount what is said. CO knows that, but he plays a game with it. Most of us are smart enough to know words are part of a consistent message. So we're handshakes.

Polls haze shown Republicans have been less likely to self quarantine and less likely to hand wash more. Where are they getting that message from? Trump going on Fox and saying the virus is contained and is a media hoax to damage his presidency. Yet that is part of a consistent message?

Obviously CO is playing each and every one of us for idiots. If he isn't showing us any respect at all, I am just going to ignore him from here on out. I am far from the smartest person here, hell CO is probably smarter than me. But I am not an abject moron like he assumes will fall for his big lies. In other words, I have a good 50 IQ points on president Turnip. Apologies to turnips who have 10 IQ points on the real resident and double his natural curiosity.
CO has been doing this for a couple of years now. Your only problem is you took too long to realize.
 
I confess to not having your power of nuance. Can you look through this timeline of Trump’s messaging on Covid 19 and explain the consistency you claim?


Anyone who says that is consistent messaging is a bald faced liar and everyone with that person not on ignore should say that when he posts. Or better yet, just put that person on ignore.
 
CO has been doing this for a couple of years now. Your only problem is you took too long to realize.

I tried to defend him against you and Rock saying what you both did.. I thought he was a principled conservative, I may disagree with them but I respect them. Aloha would be an example. COs principle is now clear as party uber alles. I don't respect that, not at all. He knows if Trump goes down the whole party goes down because no one can separate the two now. So he is flat out lying. I cannot blindly see it as principled conservative given the way ones like Will, Krystol, Boot, and Aloha, have dumped Trump.

I learned too slow. That is on me.
 
The sign guy looks pretty angry. Look like something you see on the highway with road rage.

Gave the audience the V/finger too. Not reacting well to the announcement.
Soooo . . . I found out last night that SopeJr#1 was asked to play guitar at that church's service on 3/1, and a worship leader from his church helped with the church service there on 3/8 . . . SopeJr#1 had no direct contact with that worship leader, but likely had contact with someone who likely had contact with him . . . but no information regarding dates, connections, symptoms and the like . . . SopeJr#1 had no idea about the church being at the epicenter of an outbreak until last night . . .

. . . and our granddaughter #3 - SopeJr#2's first kid - had a 1 year old birthday party yesterday . . . yes, SopeJr#1 and his family attended. I dropped by to drop off presents . . . MrsSope, who is likely facing some fairly major surgery in the next few months, stayed home.
 
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