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your efforts to go to these lengths to defend the da's office evidences just how lost you are. it's a clown show
So why don't you lay out in detail your theory of the case,and the grand scheme Fani evidently hatched to hire her "boyfriend"? There was roughly 9 months between the time FW was elected DA and the time she hired Wade, for a position others including a former Gov of GA were offered and declined? Why exactly would FW who was being paid $200,000/ yr need to hire her lover of 9 months (at most) so he could take her on vacations?
What did she have to gain, in your esteemed opinion? She makes $200,00/ yr is fircely independent, but for some reason she needs to hire a man so he can take her on trips? She already owned a 4 bedroom home in suburban Atlanta and you think she needed to hire a man to take her on trips?
I'm interested in your thinking on this, what you feel she had to gain? And Wade was already so prosperous at the time she hired him that he has been a practicing attorney and munincipal judge. He had his own travel agent and a seperate cruise agent prior to working on this case. And his taxes show that he in effect took a pay cut when he took on the role because there was a cap on how many hours he could claim during a pay period. So he basically often worked for free..
So what do you feel they had to gain? The ex-Gov of GA testified that he turned down the job because if he took it he'd have to have bodyguards the rest of his life. Others expressed the same sentiment. So why do you assume that Wade and Willis hatched this nefarious plot, presumably to prosecute Trump?
Fani Wilis was elected DA on Nov 3 2020 and inaugurated in Jan 2021. Donald Trump basically engaged in the alledged conduct subsequent to Nov 3 2020. So how did Fani run on a platform of getting Trump, and when was this nefarious plot for her and her "boyfriend" to get rich by prosecuting Trump hatched? Do you think they relish being targeted by MAGA crazies?
Is it possible that her actual platform was to get tough with gang and drug crimes, since those were the cases she prosecuted when she first took office? She was a GA munincipal judge in 2018/19, including when her Dad moved into her house in late 2019. Is this when you believe she hatched her plot to hire her "secret" boyfriend and go after (then) Pres Trump for crimes he would commit two years later? All this while she had a different boyfriend who was at her house practically every day?
So Dad moved in in Sept 2019 and there was already a man so emeshed in her life that he was at her house almost daily. Dad knew than man well, but he never met Wade and didn't know they had a relationship till 2023. So according to that testimony she was carrying on with Wade in 2019 and hiding him, but not her other boyfriend from her father?
Why do you think she would do that? Did she think her father would aprove more of her dating (and frequently entertaining) a DJ rather than a fellow Attny/Judge? Her father who was a world reknowned attorney , had tried cases in 10 states and multiple countries and had worked with Nelson Mandela? She didn't want her dad to know she was involved with an attny but was fine with him knowing she had a boyfriend who was a DJ who practically lived with her?
What would she have to hide? She wasn't a DA, that election occurred in Nov 2020. She moved out in around Feb 2021, and in all that time she was passionately involved with Wade? But her dad who lived in the same house never even heard the name Nathan Wade?
Help me understand how that works?
Pretty sure the video you posted was Before her father's testimony, and came about the time her father was flying in from CA...
Hey Dan I'm surprised you have the gall to show your laughing emoji face on any of my posts, after the way I destroyed your Biden/Ukraine nonsense from Day 1. Still looking for that DF 1023 from that "reliable,trusted" FBI informant? Where oh where did Biden hide that $ 5 Million he was paid to can Shokin?
How many times did you reference that $ 5 Million? I can do a search and give you an approximate number. If you don't remember...
The **** are you babbling about?Hey Dan I'm surprised you have the gall to show your laughing emoji face on any of my posts, after the way I destroyed your Biden/Ukraine nonsense from Day 1. Still looking for that DF 1023 from that "reliable,trusted" FBI informant? Where oh where did Biden hide that $ 5 Million he was paid to can Shokin?
How many times did you reference that $ 5 Million? I can do a search and give you an approximate number. If you don't remember...
You must understand. Pre 2016 Trump and the Trump Organization were rather obscure. He lived in the shadows of society committing petty crime and no one knew who he was.
Then, here comes this obscure figure, out of nowhere and he wins the presidency of the United States. A cursory look at his background shows that he was an arch criminal this whole time.
Yes he spent 70 years on this planet without so much as a single indictment. Yes he was widely liked by the general public until he became a Republican candidate.
It doesn’t matter. These cases aren’t political and shame on you for even inferring they may be.
So you think those pics of Trump hanging out with the Clintons and other Democrats were photoshoped?
That would explain a lot.
Well that was certainly non-responsive to my request to have you lay out your position. It's hard to actually attempt to refute your argument when you never actually express it...
I'm totally lost on the Epstein reference? Do you not realize that the people in FL who had the oppty to prosecute Epstein were basically Republican officials? MAL is located in FL, and the incident which Trump claimed forced him to eject Jeff from MAL apparently occurred at MAL.
So did Trump actually report it to authorities? Don't strain your brain trying to come up with a response. The answer is no...
It's strange how Republicans hate "sweetheart deals". But in 2008 the DOJ (under Bush) had a chance to prosecute Epstein and the man in charge at the time (Alex Acosta) offered him a "sweetheart deal". He could have been prosecuted and sent to prison but Acosta let him off the hook. And IIRC Acosta was pals with a certain GOP Congressman named Ron DeSantis...
Now fast forward to 2017 and another prominent Republican, coincidentally enough named Donnie Trump, nominated and appointed Alex Acosta as Sec of Labor. Only the best people, don't 'ya know...
So again I have no idea why you brought up Mr Epstein. But trying to pin the failure for him to be prosecuted on Dems is going to be a tough road to hoe...
If you don't understand the 2 tier system of justice going on, I can't help you.
Who cares what Party the perverts belong to? Each Party has enough on the other that there will never be any charges, especially on Clinton.
Wildly loved by the general public? That's why they had to pay actors from SAG $25-50 to hold signs and cheer when he rode down the elevator to announce his candidacy?
He was a tv star who prior to that had basically been famous for being famous/infamous. But then came Trump U and ripping off his own enthusiastic supporters with claims to make them rich. In the meantime he spread nonsense like Obama being born somewhere other than the US which I concede gained him popularity with a certain segment of the population.
So is that widely liked by "the general public"? I didn't hate the character he portrayed on The Apprentice, but subsequent events and revelations altered that opinion. Pretty sure there are plenty of examples of people who were connected to or appeared on The Apprentice that experienced the same shift in attitude regarding Trump.
Lots of people in NYC don't like Trump. That's not just a result of him entering politics and running for POTUS.
Rather it's a culmination of things like his 1990s racist attack on the so-called Central Park 5, his screwing over of employees particularly when he bankrupted his AC casinos, and surprisingly enough his reputation as an elite snob. That's perhaps the greatest irony inherent in his cult's belief that he "cares" about them. It's politically expedient for him to pretend he does, but there is nothing in his history that would point to that being true...
I can't stand the guy and and have never voted for him, nor will I ever. That said, to say this isn't political is almost as funny as the idea that he was obscure and living in the shadows for 70 years.
Democrats always break the glass and then blame Republicans for putting their foot through it.
Harry Reid blows up the filibuster and Democrats complain about Garland not getting a vote.
Pelosi blocks 1/6 committee assignments and then complain when McCarthy does the same thing.
Democrats impeach Trump twice without proven criminality and then label Mayorkas’ ouster as political.
When the indictments start rolling in on high profile Democrats, and they will. They will have no one to blame but themselves.
Sure. She was having sex with two men. Cheating on one boyfriend with another. And didn’t want her dad to know.
Next question.
You forgot already? I'll refresh your memory...
From your post of July 23,2023
"Zlochevsky allegedly told the FBI’s confidential human source (CHS) that during a meeting in August 2016 it cost him “5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another.”
And you've got to wonder why Joe needed to go to Ukraine so often, since he went there 6 times.
And there seems to be some confusion over when that meeting occurred.
"The owner of Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings, Mykola Zlochevsky, told an FBI informant in late 2015 or early 2016 during a meeting near Kyiv that “it cost 5 [million] to pay one Biden, and 5 [million] to another Biden,” according to the redacted FD-1023 form."
The FD-1023 form says the informant met with Burisma execs in late 2015/early 2016. You can link to the actual form via this llink."
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fd_1023_obtained_by_senator_grassley_-_biden.pdf
Then a few posts later on the same day, ytou replied to my comments that the DF 1023 was fake with this gem...
"I didn't bother to read all your drivel, but you stepped on your dick with this line: "For example the DF-1023 claims that somehow the Bidens met with Zlochevsky in Aug 2016, to arrange the firing of a man who was already fired 5 months earlier..."
No, it doesn't claim that, and I've posted several times here the link that shows the actual DF-1023. It say the informant met with 'Burisma execs' in late 2015 or early 2016. I didn't make up the term 'Burisma execs' - it's in the FVCKING DOCUMENT.
You continue to look like a moron when you continue to lie about what the document actually says."
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Now those are two of the several posts you made trumpeting the FBI CI and the DF 1023 he provided to the FBI...
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you don't know the latest,due to the news sources you get info from. I'll summarize for you...
The DF 1023 was fake. It was concocted by the "confidential source" (Alexander Smirnov) who was arrested as he arrived in Las Vegas from a "foreign trip" and has been indicted for among other things lying to the FBI. The crime was exposed by the (GOP) Special Prosecutor on the Hunter Biden case (Weiss). The news broke Thursday...
I tried to warn you before, that even though the Comer crew tried to pretend that the DF 1023 was a "new development" it was known about as far back as 2020. But in the Spring of 2020 when the (GOP) Senate investigated the supposed link to Biden/Ukraine corruption they already viewed the DF 1023 with suspicion.
A huge reason for that was that Trump's DOJ (led by Bill Barr) had been suspicious about the claims made in it from the moment they received it.Lev Parnas who investigated the events described including personally interviewing both Zlochevskky and Shokin had already determined it was fake and testified that to the Senate Committee in 2020. He also informed Comer of all that in his July 2023 letter to Comer, which I linked to here previously. I'm sure you never read that either...
From the indictment...
The inconsistencies are easy to spot and it's obvious why the FBI was suspicious from the outset...
"The indictment alleges that in March 2017, Smirnov reported to an FBI Agent that he had had a phone call with the owner of Ukrainian industrial conglomerate Burisma Holdings, Limited concerning Burisma’s interest in acquiring a U.S. company and making an initial public offering (IPO) on a U.S.-based stock exchange. In reporting that conversation to the FBI Agent, Smirnov also noted that Businessperson 1, Public Official 1’s son, was a member of Burisma’s Board, a fact that was publicly known. The indictment alleges that Smirnov provided no further information.
Three years later, in June 2020, the indictment alleges that Smirnov reported, for the first time, two meetings in 2015 and/or 2016. As alleged in the indictment, Smirnov falsely claimed that during these meetings, executives associated with Burisma, admitted to him that they hired Businessperson 1 to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems,” and later that they had specifically paid $5 million each to Public Official 1 and Businessperson 1, when Public Official 1 was still in office, so that “[Businessperson 1] will take care of all those issues through his dad,” referring to a criminal investigation being conducted by the then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General into Burisma and to “deal with [the then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General].”
As alleged in the indictment, the events that Smirnov first reported to the FBI Agent in June 2020 were fabrications. In truth and fact, the defendant had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017, after the end of the administration when Public Official 1 had no ability to influence U.S. policy and after the Ukrainian Prosecutor General had been fired in February 2016. The indictment alleges that the defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against Public Official 1 after expressing bias against Public Official 1 and his presidential candidacy."
Grand Jury Returns Indictment Charging FBI Confidential Human Source with Felony False Statement and Obstruction Crimes
Today, a federal court unsealed a two-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury in the Central District of California charging Alexander Smirnov, 43, with making a false statement, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, and creating a false and fictitious record, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §...
That's convenient, but I doubt you really believe it...
First off why start an affair with someone else if she was that into Wade? And why would she prefer her father think she was dating a shiftless character like "the Deuce" than an accomplished legal professional like Wade?
Wouldn't the fact that Deuce was always at her house sort of point to her basically "supporting" him. Do you think that was the role a distinguished legal professional like John Floyd III envisioned for the daughter who was basically following in his own footsteps?
Sometimes I think you attack arguments I make just for the pleasure of demonstrating your legal prowess. But considering her Dad moved in in 2019 a full year before the 2020 election, I still don't see any reason for her to purposely hide Wade from her Dad. Esp given the affair with Deuce likely ended sometime prior to her being elected DA at which point there was no longer a reason to keep her from introducing her Dad to her new boyfriend.
"Democrats impeach Trump twice without proven criminality and then label Mayorkas’ ouster as political."
So you're saying impeaching Trump preceded impeaching Clinton?
And make up your (collective) mind. Is it that a POTUS can only be charged criminally after being impeached/convicted? Or rather is it that he can only be impeached based on being charged with a criminal act? Which according to Trump renders this a moot question because he has carte blanche immunity to do whatever the hell he wants and face no repercussions...
Pubs always claim this but it's kind of apples to oranges.Reid reduced the majority needed to aprove a Presidential nomination to one vs 60%. He specifically excluded the SCOTUS, and the change he made applied to GOP nominees as well as Dems. So sort of an equalizing rule to benefit both Dem and GOP Admins in the future...
It certainly benefited Trump, who also never had a 60 vote majority. Looking back in hindsight and considering the quality of some of Trump's appointees it was probably a mistake. But it certainly never gave Dems an unfair advantage since it applied to all Admins...
This is ridiculous. She was having an affair with a married man. And you keep referring to it as her boyfriend and asking why she wouldnt tell her dad? Are you trolling me?
Is it possible for a married man to be another woman's boyfriend?
I've watched enough gangster shows to know that question is indeed a fact.
How many mistresses go running to tell daddy they are sleeping with a married man?
Zero. I know that world
Not rich enough to bill less than 24 hours in a single day or turn down reimbursements for vacations.
The wife had an affair in 2015 and they decided to end the marriage. They stayed "married" for the sake of the kids, but they definitely did not live together.
That's why Roman and his team were surprised when the unsealed divorce paperwork did not mention Fani Willis, but did mention other women. At first the "defense's" main contention was that Fani "broke up" his marriage, but that was a non-starter.
He retained his law partner as a divorce attorney way back in 2017 or 18, before he even met Fani at a seminar for munincipal judges where he was speaking in Oct 2019. That was a month after her father moved in, and she already had a live in boyfriend. He had cancer in 2020 and lived in basic isolation due to covid..., the same year she was elected DA...
When he finally filed for divorce the day after he was hired, it was a rare time when his ex-wife was in GA. She had previously moved to Texas (IIRC) and was only in town for a month or so. The marriage was acrimonious long before he even met Fani...
Cool story. It's irrelevant.
I called out your contention that it was improbable, bordering on ridiculous, that a grown woman wouldn't tell her father about the men she was sleeping with, even married ones. It's entirely explainable, though, to anyone familiar with normal family dynamics; it would be bizarre if she did tell her dad (who, by the way, is not a "world renowned" lawyer--where do you come up with this stuff?), especially since Wade was still married. To normal human beings, that's a big deal. This doesn't take any "legal prowess" to figure out--just plain old common sense, not twisted by partisan blinders.
Another reasonable explanation: her dad is lying to protect his daughter. Shocking, I know. He's a Democrat, I'd assume, so of course he'd never lie. All Democrats are good, honest, never corrupt, shining examples of humanity, while all Republicans are evil, lying, demented racists.
Spot on!You forgot already? I'll refresh your memory...
From your post of July 23,2023
"Zlochevsky allegedly told the FBI’s confidential human source (CHS) that during a meeting in August 2016 it cost him “5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another.”
And you've got to wonder why Joe needed to go to Ukraine so often, since he went there 6 times.
And there seems to be some confusion over when that meeting occurred.
"The owner of Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings, Mykola Zlochevsky, told an FBI informant in late 2015 or early 2016 during a meeting near Kyiv that “it cost 5 [million] to pay one Biden, and 5 [million] to another Biden,” according to the redacted FD-1023 form."
The FD-1023 form says the informant met with Burisma execs in late 2015/early 2016. You can link to the actual form via this llink."
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fd_1023_obtained_by_senator_grassley_-_biden.pdf
Then a few posts later on the same day, ytou replied to my comments that the DF 1023 was fake with this gem...
"I didn't bother to read all your drivel, but you stepped on your dick with this line: "For example the DF-1023 claims that somehow the Bidens met with Zlochevsky in Aug 2016, to arrange the firing of a man who was already fired 5 months earlier..."
No, it doesn't claim that, and I've posted several times here the link that shows the actual DF-1023. It say the informant met with 'Burisma execs' in late 2015 or early 2016. I didn't make up the term 'Burisma execs' - it's in the FVCKING DOCUMENT.
You continue to look like a moron when you continue to lie about what the document actually says."
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Now those are two of the several posts you made trumpeting the FBI CI and the DF 1023 he provided to the FBI...
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you don't know the latest,due to the news sources you get info from. I'll summarize for you...
The DF 1023 was fake. It was concocted by the "confidential source" (Alexander Smirnov) who was arrested as he arrived in Las Vegas from a "foreign trip" and has been indicted for among other things lying to the FBI. The crime was exposed by the (GOP) Special Prosecutor on the Hunter Biden case (Weiss). The news broke Thursday...
I tried to warn you before, that even though the Comer crew tried to pretend that the DF 1023 was a "new development" it was known about as far back as 2020. But in the Spring of 2020 when the (GOP) Senate investigated the supposed link to Biden/Ukraine corruption they already viewed the DF 1023 with suspicion.
A huge reason for that was that Trump's DOJ (led by Bill Barr) had been suspicious about the claims made in it from the moment they received it.Lev Parnas who investigated the events described including personally interviewing both Zlochevskky and Shokin had already determined it was fake and testified that to the Senate Committee in 2020. He also informed Comer of all that in his July 2023 letter to Comer, which I linked to here previously. I'm sure you never read that either...
From the indictment...
The inconsistencies are easy to spot and it's obvious why the FBI was suspicious from the outset...
"The indictment alleges that in March 2017, Smirnov reported to an FBI Agent that he had had a phone call with the owner of Ukrainian industrial conglomerate Burisma Holdings, Limited concerning Burisma’s interest in acquiring a U.S. company and making an initial public offering (IPO) on a U.S.-based stock exchange. In reporting that conversation to the FBI Agent, Smirnov also noted that Businessperson 1, Public Official 1’s son, was a member of Burisma’s Board, a fact that was publicly known. The indictment alleges that Smirnov provided no further information.
Three years later, in June 2020, the indictment alleges that Smirnov reported, for the first time, two meetings in 2015 and/or 2016. As alleged in the indictment, Smirnov falsely claimed that during these meetings, executives associated with Burisma, admitted to him that they hired Businessperson 1 to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems,” and later that they had specifically paid $5 million each to Public Official 1 and Businessperson 1, when Public Official 1 was still in office, so that “[Businessperson 1] will take care of all those issues through his dad,” referring to a criminal investigation being conducted by the then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General into Burisma and to “deal with [the then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General].”
As alleged in the indictment, the events that Smirnov first reported to the FBI Agent in June 2020 were fabrications. In truth and fact, the defendant had contact with executives from Burisma in 2017, after the end of the administration when Public Official 1 had no ability to influence U.S. policy and after the Ukrainian Prosecutor General had been fired in February 2016. The indictment alleges that the defendant transformed his routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma in 2017 and later into bribery allegations against Public Official 1 after expressing bias against Public Official 1 and his presidential candidacy."
Grand Jury Returns Indictment Charging FBI Confidential Human Source with Felony False Statement and Obstruction Crimes
Today, a federal court unsealed a two-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury in the Central District of California charging Alexander Smirnov, 43, with making a false statement, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, and creating a false and fictitious record, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §...www.justice.gov
How about we stipulate that Willis and Wade are dipshits.
How does this have any bearing on the Trump prosecution?
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