Same could have been said for 2016.... But nobody votes nor thinks long term.
Democrats are stupid
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Same could have been said for 2016.... But nobody votes nor thinks long term.
That's certainly true on the Republican side. I'm not sure it's true for the Democrats. Hillary was a terrible candidate but I don't think she'd have been a terrible President. I think the Democrats would be far better off today with Hillary just finishing a second term, vs what they're facing now.
In 2024 neither party is going to benefit from winning and being further defined by what they're showing today. This should be a Flush the Turds opportunity for both sides.
I don't want to even think about putting the country through a second Trump regime. I don't know that the Dems could ever put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Fani Willis can remain on Trump’s election case in Georgia, judge rules
McAfee rules that either special prosecutor Nathan Wade must step down or the case will be reassigned from Fani Willis and her team.
www.msnbc.com
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So with this, the judge has admitted that there is some level of corruption. Doesn't that open the door for more arguments to dismiss in totality?Fani Willis can remain on Trump’s election case in Georgia, judge rules
McAfee rules that either special prosecutor Nathan Wade must step down or the case will be reassigned from Fani Willis and her team.
Only on appeal.
I think the judge should have either ordered option 1 or dismissed the indictment. The money flowing to Fanni’s benefit taints every prosecutorial decision. At the very least, Fanni should have been booted off the case and an entirely different prosecution team brought in.
I think Fanni should also face a disciplinary hearing.
No, just that there was the appearance of impropriety. Nothing on the merits or fairness of the prosecution.
"Appearance" enough to remove one of the two headed serpent. Interesting opinion councilor.
What about lying about their relationship? Does lying under oath mean anything anymore?
And from the "you can't make this shit up" file......... Great system we have here. And we worry about Russia or Ukraine corruption??? SMFH
Another way to write that headline:Fani Willis can remain on Trump’s election case in Georgia, judge rules
McAfee rules that either special prosecutor Nathan Wade must step down or the case will be reassigned from Fani Willis and her team.
Judge finds Wade must step down, or Willis will be removed from Trump case
Absolutely. This is a rare event.
And if she perjured herself, she should be disbarred.
McAfee is up for election. That explains his excessive caution.
This is some 3rd world shit.
So, Wade can't continue, but Fani can, even though they both lied? You can't find one guilty and not the other.
Well, the judge didn't say either one of them lied. This is about an appearance of impropriety, nothing more.
That said, what really fascinates me is why you guys are going so hard after this. There is no universe in which these charges get dismissed. If you successfully get rid of Willis, the only result is that someone more competent replaces her.
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so why would trump get off just because of a scandal that had no effect on his case?
So say if I was a serial killer and the person prosecuting my case was going around humping all of their co-workers... think i should be free as a bird simply because of that person's bad choices?
Really??
or is this just a trump thing and any lame reasoning should be enough for his case to be dismissed?
That's all the judge cared about. And the supposed lies were nothing more than denials of unsubstantiated accusations.
The desperation is palpable. They are truly dreading seeing any of these cases actually going to trial.
First, she had a pecuniary benefit in bringing charges (giving her lover a lucrative job)
Second, there was evidence about connections between her and the White House. That was never pursued
Either one of these could be a basis for dismissing the indictment. Whether the state would get a do over is a different question.
.in which case a competent non political prosecutor might dismiss the RICO charges and some others.
I think the Judge owed a duty to the public to bring in a new and independent prosecutor. His order will leave any conviction open to an unnecessary challenge.
He didn't say it, but everyone - including you - knows that's what he thinks. Otherwise, why the ruling?
People get arrested because it 'appears' they did something. The evidence is there to prove both lied about their relationship and if the DOJ didn't have a 2 tier system of justice, they'd bring charges against both of them for perjury.
Maybe we just don't like corruption. I know that's a foreign concept to you.
You can't go back and forth between what he actually ruled and what you imagine is going on inside of his head. Pick one and stick with it.
Isn't that a good thing? I'd hope they'd have a very competent person doing it and let the chips fall where they may.
But the judge did question their truthfulness according to this article so it's not imagining what is going on in his head.
What to know about judge's ruling allowing Fani Willis to stay on Trump's Georgia election case
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis can prosecute Donald Trump on charges that he interfered with Georgia’s 2020 election now that a special prosecutor with whom she had a romantic relationship has withdrawn from the case.
apnews.com
I understand how he ruled. He ruled on the appearance of impropriety.
He wasn't there to pronounce a legal judgement on Fani and Wade - he was there to rule on the Defense motion. But if there was the appearance of impropriety of one, there had to be on the other.
The legal matter of them lying, I realize, needs to be investigated. Because anyone with a functioning brain knows they were lying.
The Dems are now resorting to legalisms to justify Fani being kept on - that's all it is. They know she was lying - hell, Goat started this thread with that assumption.But the judge did question their truthfulness according to this article so it's not imagining what is going on in his head.
What to know about judge's ruling allowing Fani Willis to stay on Trump's Georgia election case
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis can prosecute Donald Trump on charges that he interfered with Georgia’s 2020 election now that a special prosecutor with whom she had a romantic relationship has withdrawn from the case.
Oh I agree with that. The bar should investigate them. I thought you were trying to argue that the judge already made the determination. That's what it sounded like you were saying.
I just don't understand what Republicans expect to get out of it. The case isn't going away.
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I am sure Trump is hoping it is delayed long enough for his guaranteed victory to make him untouchable again
It might go away if a prosecutor without an agenda was put in.
No but it’s tainted now bc it shows a financial motive for the prosecution.
Which I get and why I started the thread. It's bad politically for the Dems. But it won't keep Trump out of an orange jumpsuit.
I don’t think with state charges and no priors he’d end up in an orange jumpsuit. Typically this would be a good time for a plea deal with the surrounding bs
Nah, I don't actually think he'll do time, either. I'm just stressing how silly I find the importance they've placed on going after Willis.
In a way I agree with you but in another way I think they should go after her if they have evidence that it was done for political reasons. I think any prosecutor(R or D) who uses their office for political reasons should be disbarred and punished.
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