Biden options
- Thread starter Marvin the Martian
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I admit I could be wrong, but I think a replacement doesn't have time to build an effective campaign.
Apparently Biden can't be removed from the WI ballot unless he dies. Don't see how the Dems win without it. Trump isn't losing GA and AZ looks like a near lock as well.
I think they would. At this point the Dem vote still contains the true believers and the “anybody but Trump” contingent. You could further strengthen the latter without losing much of the former by choosing the right person.
Younger, vibrant, and well spoken wins the day. People are really just voting red or blue. It was already a dead heat with Biden as an 81 y/o.
I voted Shapiro but would take Pete or Booker or Whitmer just fine.
Not a fan of Newsom. Think he’d turn people off in the Midwest.
You need an "other" option. That's not an exhaustive list.
I hit the end before I knew it, I had more names. I just stopped, already spent my allotted time. Maybe other would have been better.
I wonder how that is possible, no one has officially been nominated yet. Neither Biden nor Trump. How could they lock in before either party makes it official?
Don't know but that is what everyone has been saying and I haven't seen anyone refute it.
The party doesn’t run the elections. States do. Biden won the Wisconsin primary election. I would think there must also be an out for disability.
A Biden replacement is, in my view, a worst-case scenario for Trump and a scary proposition for MAGA. That's why the Heritage Foundation/Project 2025 and other Trump-aligned organizations are already talking about legal challenges.
See Lars post above.
In addition, a Biden withdrawal would suck most of the oxygen from the RNC convention in a few weeks - - - no target (except a generic socialist boogeyman), no more "Let's Go Brandon!" or "Fvck Joe Biden" chants. Who's going to care except the MAGA-third of the country?
In contrast, there would be much buzz and anticipation leading up to the Dems' convention in August, with excitement and energy surrounding the nomination of a fresh, new, young(er), articulate candidate, and with all the momentum leading into the last few months of the election season. Trump would suddenly be in an incumbent-like position, forced to defend his absymal and anti-democratic record, his criminal activity and his mob boss mentality. And if a subsequent debate performance is anything like what he displayed last Thursday, he would be shredded.
I agree. The media will be all in the promote the Democratic candidate no matter who it is. Any pretense that the media is objective will be gone. However, the media dishonesty has been laid bare by its Biden dementia coverup, so it may not have much remaining cred.
If it’s Harris, she will become the smartest woman on the planet in 2 weeks or less with puff pieces all over the place. Same for Whitmer.
In any case without “crooked Joe” trump looses a lot of momentum.
Biden’s approval rating is dogshit. Most people recognize he’s been a total disaster. Someone new isn’t encumbered with that record. Fresh all around. Trump would be in deep trouble with the right pick.
I don't know the answer, but a quick Google search shows:
One source from 2020 indicates that names for the general election for the Presidency have to be submitted by the party no later than the first Tuesday in September.
One news article by NPR from a few weeks ago said there was an early June deadline for state offices and for U.S. Senate and House. They made no mention of the Presidency.
This 2023-24 Blue Book for Wisconsin Elections re-affirms there was a June 1 deadline of some sort for state elections (excluding the Presidency) and has more details about the general election ballots for the Presidency. It provides, in part:
How would that matter? If Haley won the Wisconsin primary, Haley would have to be on the GOP ticket and not Trump?
As he should be. As he should have been in the GOP primary. If we were running one of the very popular Republican Governors, we’d win in a walk.
It’s an extremely safe bet that your Trumpster Twitter Twits are totally wrong. They have that track record. We don’t have official nominees until after the conventions. The states must account for that.
No way that is correct, no way. There is never a guarantee that a presidential race will be decided before the convention. So no one would appear? Ohio moved their presidential deadline up ahead of the Democratic convention this year, so the Democrats will hold a roll call before the convention to confirm Biden.
There are reading the deadline for other races and interpreting it for president.
That’s what Dems need. The right Dem. Pick Newsom you’re just substituting the complaints you get with Biden and progressives for Newsom and California. Same drill. And Newsom is the name I see pop up most. I doubt they’ve learned from their progressive mistakes
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I see the confusion, states have deadlines for 3rd party candidates. That does not apply to the parties that score a certain percentage in previous election. So Republicans, Democrats, and maybe Libertarians, are automatically on the ballot. No signature requirement. Deadline is different.
I agree - and it really sucks that Republican voters nominated Trump again. Looking ahead, it’ll be interesting to see what happens when he’s (mercifully) out of eligibility.
But, that said, as things stand right now, I’d guess that Trump is likely to win narrowly.
But there are all kinds of caveats to that. There always are - but there have never been more of them - the status of the Dem nomination, Trump’s legal troubles, both candidates past average life expectancy, etc.
Dbm's problem, among many, is that he gets nearly all his information (along with his opinions) from Trumpster Twitter Twits who are nearly always dumb as posts. Dbm takes them at face value and believes them wholeheartedly. He never bothers to check their sources. As a result, his head is fully of misinformation, outright lies, conspiracy theories and unsupported opinions.
It’s never a good idea to use Charlie Kirk as a source for…anything.
I already refuted it the first time it was posted. If Biden drops out, the WI electors vote for whomever his replacement is. There is no problem.
You have to get on Twitter and pose as a Trumpster Twitter Twit - then he'll believe you wholeheartedly and unquestionably. It's the only way!
It’s looking bad for Biden. I still don’t understand why Democrats didn’t move on from Biden already. It’s been painfully obvious he lost his mind several years ago. They could have avoided this situation if they had any self awareness.
Putting that aside his cabinet should invoke the 25th, make Harris President, and she becomes the natural nominee in November. It’s the easiest path forward, in my opinion, and the right thing to do.
It wasn’t painfully obvious to Democrats that he lost his mind. It took the debate to show them. But some are still saying maybe it was just a bad first debate.
He couldn’t even get down the small flight of stairs at the debate.
Cheap fakes. That horrible press sect up there lying every day. Psaki 2.0. Terrible admin of shitty people to be honest.
Just put trump in. Get back to integrity and values
I use to think they didn’t believe the media’s bullshit, but too many are true believers. It leads to this ⬇️
Hanks (I’m serious; he’d win) or Fetterman. Neither will happen.
But, it’s not a student council debate or election. We’re all not just voting for a President; we’re voting for a group of policies and ideas and the huge group of people advising the administration and forming and implementing plans, policies and procedures. I don’t want the Center for American Progress anywhere near the government. But that’s what you get with a Dem president. You get the ACLU and SPLC.
And this is why I doubt we’ll see that much of a shift in voting after Biden’s performance. We’re all voting, in effect, for our Weekend at Bernie’s candidate.
Whistling through the graveyard.
'Fresh, new, young(er) articulate candidate'.......
Fvcking idiots thinking this 'candidate' is going to appear out of the mist somehow, somewhere,
making the American people magically forget the domestic and foreign policy disasters the democrats have brought upon this country and her people and institutions.
Fat Chance!
A moderate Dem. I have zero faith they’d choose one. It’d be a loony left lockdown Whitmer Pritzker Newsom. so none of it matters to conservatives or centrists
Fren, the point is that this democrat savior doesn't exist.
There isn't one to choose...
There are a handful of mod gov Dems that would be fine. I don’t think they are on this iteration of party leadership’s short list
The party is currently in the clutches of the Marxist minority that wield tyranny over it. Just as the GOP is in the clutches of MAGA.
This must be the most ironic and silliest comment I’ve ever seen on here. Donald Trump will NEVER be characterized as having integrity and values. For that matter most republicans who support a liar, conman, and convicted felon won’t either.
