Are you suggesting he can't formulate any independent ideas of his own?Probably because his 'RINO hero' only has said one thing so far tonight....to celebrate a Republican losing in Colorado.
Are you suggesting he can't formulate any independent ideas of his own?Probably because his 'RINO hero' only has said one thing so far tonight....to celebrate a Republican losing in Colorado.
Are you suggesting he can't formulate any independent ideas of his own?
I'm beginning to think I got the rank of Goat wrong. He's not the Colonel, he's the Captain:His sentence ends in a few hours. You really want an early release?
Moderator Emeritus.I'm beginning to think I got the rank of Goat wrong. He's not the Colonel, he's the Captain:
Love that movie. Alright gang. Congrats Dems. Hardly the tsunami expected for us. Time to check out and work in advance of the World Cup. I’ll place this as a reply to this poster and see some of you again in a few weeks in the INVITATION only soccer thread for the wc. Cheers!I'm beginning to think I got the rank of Goat wrong. He's not the Colonel, he's the Captain:
Love that movie. Alright gang. Congrats Dems. Hardly the tsunami expected for us. Time to check out and work in advance of the World Cup. I’ll place this as a reply to this poster and see some of you again in a few weeks in the INVITATION only soccer thread for the wc. Cheers!
No way you're calling it a night this early. You met some aspiring actress in the Marriot lounge, didn't you?Love that movie. Alright gang. Congrats Dems. Hardly the tsunami expected for us. Time to check out and work in advance of the World Cup. I’ll place this as a reply to this poster and see some of you again in a few weeks in the INVITATION only soccer thread for the wc. Cheers!
I want in on that thread! I'll behave!Love that movie. Alright gang. Congrats Dems. Hardly the tsunami expected for us. Time to check out and work in advance of the World Cup. I’ll place this as a reply to this poster and see some of you again in a few weeks in the INVITATION only soccer thread for the wc. Cheers!
Nah, but someone needs to jump start the fraud claims.His sentence ends in a few hours. You really want an early release?
He'll be ready when the clock runs out. He's lurking right now. Probably fuming, too.Nah, but someone needs to jump start the fraud claims.
Stating the obvious, even with Republicans picking up seats it hasn't been a good night for Trump and Trump candidates.
Compare that to Desantis blowing out his race and sweeping all races in Florida. The quip I thought I heard was this will be the first time in Florida's history where there is no opposition party in major state government.
Yikes. Is Florida now called Flurkey or Flungary?
The obvious point is this is a wet dream scenario for the right in Florida.
This along with Trump candidates struggling is going to put a tremendous pressure on the machine to push Trump aside for Desantis.
Trump ain't gonna like that.
Second point, looks like Boebert is at real risk. That would restore my faith a little bit.
Trump just needs to go away.
No doubt. As of this moment, it looks very possible that the GOP autopsy is going to conclude that Trump screwed them.Trump just needs to go away.
It does feel like Wokeism and Trumpism took a beating tonight.Trump just needs to go away.
Did wokeism take a beating yet? I haven't seen any signs of a big backlash against progressive candidates yet. Not saying you're wrong, of course. I just haven't seen it. But then I got home late and started drinking fast, so...It does feel like Wokeism and Trumpism took a beating tonight.
I think the Dems that have held contested seats are…..sober and sane. If Frisch hold off Boebert he’s another you’d call the new blue dog.Did wokeism take a beating yet? I haven't seen any signs of a big backlash against progressive candidates yet. Not saying you're wrong, of course. I just haven't seen it. But then I got home late and started drinking fast, so...
Fair enough. Maybe the real story is that all the posters who have been telling us that the woke crowd remains fringe in the party were actually right?I think the Dems that have held contested seats are…..sober and sane. If Frisch hold off Boebert he’s another you’d call the new blue dog.
I'll say this. He's an odd politician. Can't win with him. Can't win without him. Though he's almost certainly 2-2 if not for COVID. Desantis/Tulsi 2024? Is that best for all? Maybe. It's possible that there are enough Dems and Inds willing to burn everything down and make their lives worse intentionally just to not have Trump. We'll see.Trump just needs to go away.
YOU'RE BACK!!!!! You owe me some tears to feast on.I'll say this. He's an odd politician. Can't win with him. Can't win without him. Though he's almost certainly 2-2 if not for COVID. Desantis/Tulsi 2024? Is that best for all? Maybe. It's possible that there are enough Dems and Inds willing to burn everything down and make their lives worse intentionally just to not have Trump. We'll see.
Trump 2024 would have FL, OH, NC and probably even WI in the bank. The only wildcard is AZ. He'd win NV but no way NH so he'd need a rust belt.YOU'RE BACK!!!!! You owe me some tears to feast on.
No tears. Just wondering how you will afford $6+ gallon gas?YOU'RE BACK!!!!! You owe me some tears to feast on.
I think he was waiting to see how the election goes before announcing. This could definitely affect his decision.I'll say this. He's an odd politician. Can't win with him. Can't win without him. Though he's almost certainly 2-2 if not for COVID. Desantis/Tulsi 2024? Is that best for all? Maybe. It's possible that there are enough Dems and Inds willing to burn everything down and make their lives worse intentionally just to not have Trump. We'll see.
Probably with six dollars.No tears. Just wondering how you will afford $6+ gallon gas?
It has to at least give him pause, right? His advisors are going to tell him that this night wasn't good for him. Will he listen? Or will he grasp at the exceptions and develop tunnel vision? "Vance won, I can win!"I think he was waiting to see how the election goes before announcing. This could definitely affect his decision.
Although, getting a majority in the House is a pretty good consolation prize.
Yeah if progs continue to struggle (Fetterman, Barnes who I like but looks like will take the L vs Johnson) the Dem machine is going to, let's say re-evaluate, especially in light of the relative successful campaigns of the ones who are trying to appeal to the middle and understand that going further left when the other party is going further right leaves a decent sized chunk of the bell curve.I think the Dems that have held contested seats are…..sober and sane. If Frisch hold off Boebert he’s another you’d call the new blue dog.
Pennsylvania will deserve everything they get if Fetterman is elected. Wait until the vote on fracking comes up.No tears. Just wondering how you will afford $6+ gallon gas?
Can't find the debate but he did put out this campaign ad.Yeah if progs continue to struggle (Fetterman, Barnes who I like but looks like will take the L vs Johnson) the Dem machine is going to, let's say re-evaluate, especially in light of the relative successful campaigns of the ones who are trying to appeal to the middle and understand that going further left when the other party is going further right leaves a decent sized chunk of the bell curve.
Tim Ryan, although losing in an impossible race in Ohio, ran a masterful race and closed the gap significantly by being an everyday dude, getting out of the echo chamber and at least trying to reach the other side and by out masculining (is that a word) the opponent who's supposedly running on masculinity.
I thought this was pretty brilliant. Sure it's pandering but a big part of his campaign was to out 'masculine' JD Vance.
The other line I liked was Ryan pointing out Trump said JD kissed his ass. Followed by Ohioans aren't ass kissers, we're ass kickers.
Mainly he appealed to being a basic guy who's pissed at the extreme. He still lost but closed the gap so, he resonated.
Gives me some hope.
Carpetbagger. Trump coming to town hurt him with Philly collar county voters, which usually decide their elections. Fetterman is really well liked in PA, and his stroke is the only reason it was close.We really need a bunch of posters to come around and explain their thoughts about Oz losing. I thought it was a guarantee that he'd win.
You're not the poster I want to hear from.Carpetbagger. Trump coming to town hurt him with Philly collar county voters, which usually decide their elections. Fetterman is really well liked in PA, and his stroke is the only reason it was close.
Second this.Carpetbagger. Trump coming to town hurt him with Philly collar county voters, which usually decide their elections. Fetterman is really well liked in PA, and his stroke is the only reason it was close.
I have siad from day one that several Pubs held their noses and rode his coat tails through the mid terms and will now distance themselves. Not all, but several more. He will still have the Greene and BoBo nut job types.Trump just needs to go away.
Do you think a national holiday for election day is going to shut down fast food, grocery, convenience and a whole host of other retail establishments where a lot of working class people work? Sure, your white collar folks and their hourly folks that work for them will get the day off, but a large part of the middle and lower class would still have to work.Disagree. If democracy is in danger take steps to ameliorate fears people have, real or fictionalized. Perception matters more than reality. And yes apply common sense. If someone is in the military let them vote absentee. If someone is disabled mail it in. But for everyone else make it a national holiday(s) and go vote in person. If Dems posit "Democracy is in danger" then don't be lazy asses. A little inconvenience doesn't hurt anyone if it's important. Close the schools and vote in person. My kids' school is closed today
I have siad from day one that several Pubs held their noses and rode his coat tails through the mid terms and will now distance themselves. Not all, but several more. He will still have the Greene and BoBo nut job types.
Trump just needs to go away.
The good news is he only has one more election he can f%#k up. Putting Trump aside, the economy and inflation are going to continue to be issues and grind on people more the next two years. I know a lot of Democrats are gleeful over the results, but the reality is the country is pretty evenly split. Republicans are in much better shape than they were post Bush, when they were a complete shit show.That's been obvious for a long time. But hate to break it to you....he won't go.
Coat tails is Probably not the best term to use. They rode his narrative to get through the middies and now will begin to distance and try to revise their own history.Whatever the opposite of coat tails is what Trump provided.
Call it the 'Trump Tax'.... if you were seen as a Trumper first, you underperformed
I agree with that. But that's a more difficult solution. You're asking to change peoples' behaviors and perceptions. Easier to fix those things that give rise to the skepticism.