Atlantic just released all the texts this a.m. and it is not good

[iuwclurker]

No surprise here:

Israeli officials furious that Signal group chat exposed intelligence, sources say

Sources tell CBS News the Signal chat involving senior Trump administration officials included sensitive intelligence Israel provided to the U.S.

www.cbsnews.com

QED’s the livin’ bejesus out of any argument asserting no harm, no foul.

 

[swman]

Hmm, didn't we expose Israeli Intel in Trump's previous administration, Trump told Putin of Intel Israel passed to us?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/horri...e-shouting-at-us-counterparts-over-trump-leak

No big deal. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

The fall out is serious and lasting. Hegseth’s was largely seen as unqualified here and abroad before he was confirmed. It will be near impossible for him to build credibility now IMO:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/25/hegseth-group-chat-asia-00004320?cid=apn

 

[Lucy01]

The fall out is serious and lasting. Hegseth’s was largely seen as unqualified here and abroad before he was confirmed. It will be near impossible for him to build credibility now IMO:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/25/hegseth-group-chat-asia-00004320?cid=apn

You unpatriotic POS.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

You unpatriotic POS.

You got it backwards, my unserious moonbat friend. I want our administration and SecDef to be competent and effective.

 

[Lucy01]

You got it backwards, my unserious moonbat friend.

No, I am dead serious when I talk about you!

 

[hoot1]

Yeah positive changes like barring law firms that represent people he doesn’t like or employed attorneys that litigated against him. So curtailing our first amendment right to peacefully protest. And sending alleged gang members to El Salvador whose government has made deals with the alleged gang members to stop the public murders in exchange better treatment for their members held in prison. You no like cell phones, prostitutes and the like. Also, invoking the Alien Enemies Act to justify it. Someone needs to inform Venezuela that we’re at war with them if you’re going to do that. We all want illegal immigrants that are criminals out of the country. But to just say someone is a gang member without presenting any evidence is what dictators do. Leaders of democracies don’t do these things. So those are positive things. Also, my father was a judge and my brother is currently one and my brother was in the service. That doesn’t mean I know about those things. It could however mean that I slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Look up cults. Cult members don’t believe anything but what the leader tells them. Even if they can see it with their own eyes. You are in a cult you just can’t or won’t admit it.

Swman, cannot find a sound argument against anything you wrote except the part about yours truly "being in a cult" and not being able, or willing, to admit it.

My post, to which you resppnded, was as an attempt to explain what was, in my opinion, a difference between Biden and Trump.

To set the record straight, I was never a big fan of Biden and find myself concerned about our future after seeing what the Trump administration is doing so far.

Nevertheless, just cannot believe Trump will completely get his way except for some changes which hopefully turn out better than I originally suspected.

Trying to keep an open and positive outlook inspite of such things as world peace and a balanced budget never going to happen in my lifetime.

 

[swman]

Hmm, didn't we expose Israeli Intel in Trump's previous administration, Trump told Putin of Intel Israel passed to us?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/horri...e-shouting-at-us-counterparts-over-trump-leak

Won’t be the last time. You can bet on that. And what is the reason for Hegseth to take his wife to a meeting with European defense ministers? Does she even have a security clearance? Oh wait. They’ll get around to that when they have time.

 

[iuwclurker]

No, I am dead serious when I talk about you!

Patience. If he’s worth your tongue time, your delicious Orange Ass Lollipop will replace Hegseth.

 

[Lucy01]

Patience. If he’s worth your tongue time, your delicious Orange Ass Lollipop will replace Hegseth.

Not going to happen!

 

[swman]

Patience. If he’s worth your tongue time, your delicious Orange Ass Lollipop will replace Hegseth.

Will never happen. He’s the perfect fit for the Dancing Orange Orangutan.

 

[iuwclurker]

Will never happen. He’s the perfect fit for the Dancing Orange Orangutan.

Hate to break it to you, but it don’t dance no more.

 

[swman]

Hate to break it to you, but it don’t dance no more.

I’m still sticking with the moniker. My wife does a great imitation. With the excoriate she doesn’t lie every time she opens her mouth.

 

[iuwclurker]

I’m still sticking with the moniker. My wife does a great imitation. With the excoriate she doesn’t lie every time she opens her mouth.

You need to reward her every time.

 

[DANC]

IMO the prime difference between Biden and Trump is Biden being a traditional old school president (Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton, Obama). In contrast the new Trump Way replaces the cumbersome old
bureaucratic way of the past.

IMO, Trump in looking back to his previous administration, he feels there were too many of the old guard among his political appointments to make a positive change.

Thus, Trump is more than willing to see his new gang make a few mistakes by not following protocols (as in the recent alleged security breech)

Agreed. This wasn't as egregious as f-ups from previous administrations and nothing happened to them.

As long as it doesn't happen again, no harm, no foul. If something like it happens again, I imagine there will be consequences, i.e. firings.

 

[DANC]

Won’t be the last time. You can bet on that. And what is the reason for Hegseth to take his wife to a meeting with European defense ministers? Does she even have a security clearance? Oh wait. They’ll get around to that when they have time.

He probably thought it was fine, since Dr. Jill used to run cabinet meetings.

Did she have a security clearance?

 

[DANC]

Sure I was drunk as hell and driving on the wrong side of the highway at night, but I got the kids home and in bed by 10:00pm so it’s fine. That’s what he’s saying right?

No. In your case - in many cases, including my own - we've driven drunk and got away with it. Doesn't make it right and, if we keep doing it, we'll eventually get caught and punished.

But you (the generice 'you') didn't get thrown in jail for driving drunk and getting your kids home OK.

 

[DANC]

What? Trump was the one who rid Republicans of the Iraq war albatross. McCain and Romney had to tacitly show support for something everyone knew was a disaster and it hurt their campaigns.

Then Trump comes in 2016 and starts blasting Bush and Cheney. It gave the whole party permission to cut bait.

Without Trump, Republicans would probably still be making weak ass arguments for why we needed to go into Iraq.

@swman is just a confused old man

 

[swman]

Agreed. This wasn't as egregious as f-ups from previous administrations and nothing happened to them.

As long as it doesn't happen again, no harm, no foul. If something like it happens again, I imagine there will be consequences, i.e. firings.

An enlisted soldier would be court martialed and jailed. But that’s ok. He’s just a grunt who is on the front lines defending this country. Of course that’s not nearly as dangerous as traveling around the world and having the great perks that the head of the DOD has. What was I thinking?

 

[DANC]

An enlisted soldier would be court martialed and jailed. But that’s ok. He’s just a grunt who is on the front lines defending this country. Of course that’s not nearly as dangerous as traveling around the world and having the great perks that the head of the DOD has. What was I thinking?

You must have slept through the previous administration.